RE: McLaren 570S: Review

RE: McLaren 570S: Review

Wednesday 21st October 2015

McLaren 570S: Review

McLaren goes mainstream but is the 570S good enough to take on 911 Turbo and R8 V10 Plus?



So, we know how the 570S stacks up by the numbers. And there are PHers with money down without having read a single review.

Statics impossible without the doors up
Statics impossible without the doors up
What's it actually like then?

Potentially a steal for buyers suddenly offered a carbon-tubbed supercar for the price of a 911 Turbo. Or a worry if you paid the premium for a 650S Super Series seemingly sharing a common Monocell chassis and 3.8-litre twin-turbo V8. Hell, versions of the same underpin every McLaren in the range, all the way up to the £1m-plus Ultimate Series of P1 and P1 GTR. Are folk with that much invested in the McLaren dream really going to be happy the baby of the range is a chip off the same block?

Nope. So a major part of the 570S story is convincing people it's great. But not as good as a 650S, heaven forbid an LT or P1 on the cheap.

Trim packages let you choose plush or sporty
Trim packages let you choose plush or sporty
Same but less so?
Which is difficult. Because if you parked a 570S beside a 650S and asked a random which was the cheapo version they'd be hard pressed to pick it out. People aren't daft though. And nor is McLaren. The aluminium skin of the Sports Series leaves the all-carbon cachet to the Super Series but also permits a more sculptural shape that apparently could only be achieved with metal panels. With more than a hint of P1 it's a more cohesive look than the 650S, which still struggles to marry swoopy new corporate nose with original, harder edged 12C rear quarter. The floating 'tendon' in the door, flowing horizontal line from front lights to rear intake and flying buttresses are all functional as well as stylistic flourishes and help make the Sports Series stand apart. So out on the street it is both recognisably McLaren but noticeably different enough for people to recognise it as the 'baby' of the range. If such things matter to you.

Can we talk about how it drives now?

Character-wise it's instantly very McLaren. The suspension may lack the interlinked trickery of ProActive Chassis Control and relies on mechanical anti-roll bars, not cleverly pumped oil from opposing damper chambers for roll control. But thanks to the inherent stiffness of the chassis and the car's overall lack of weight - sprung and unsprung - it has that similar sense of floating over the rough stuff while keeping a clear line of communication about what the chassis is up to. Keep an eye on those settings though - Normal is plush for town and daily use but, like the 650S, it can blow through its travel once up to speed and cause nasty 'skerrrrfff!' noises as the underside hits the road surface through compressions. The increased damper support of Sport and Track settings - the latter entirely acceptable for fast road use - helps prevent this.

Natural, predictable and very fast on track
Natural, predictable and very fast on track
Firm hand at the wheel
Other than a quick squirt up the amusingly bumpy dual carriageway to Portimao my first real taste of the 570S is on the circuit with just a few chaperoned laps to go from familiarisation to flat out. Handily the last car I drove here was the R8 V10 Plus, a car we've already identified as a key rival to the 570S.

Immediately there's clarity in the McLaren's steering response the gluey, all-electric rack in the Audi can't match, helped by the fact it weighs 110kg less overall and the front axle isn't sharing steering and traction duties as it is in the four-wheel drive R8. The fixed ratio is faster than the 650S, now 14.1:1 as opposed to 15.3:1 and closer to the 'sharp' end of the R8's variable system. Both share a sense of accessibility though, the 570S much less pointy than the last McLaren I drove on track. OK, that was the super focused, Pirelli Trofeo-shod 675LT and there is nowhere near the front-end bite in the Corsa-shod 570S, meaning I merrily plough past apex after apex until I learn to peg it back a little. And at a more appropriate pace the 570S is as fun and accommodating as its 'entry level' positioning dictates it needs to be.

Those coming from 911 Turbos - the other obvious rival - will find the weight and clarity of the controls more familiar. But where the Porsche majors on chassis tech and four-wheel steer enhanced agility the McLaren is a much more straightforward car to understand and exploit. And again, much lighter - 164kg less in this case.

Aluminium body allows more complex shape
Aluminium body allows more complex shape
Clarity of purpose
This relative simplicity is a very different ideological approach to that of its rivals; like Lotus, McLaren instinctively doesn't like locking diffs and the 570S relies on the 'too clever for F1' Brake Steer system to regulate power delivery across the rear axle. It does let you use the throttle to dictate the car's angle but it's by nature a softer response than a mechanical diff and only really noticeable in the mid-way Dynamic ESP setting. With everything on the stability control is tactful in its interventions but you can sense the 570S straining against the leash and rationing the power to maintain a neutral cornering stance. Ability to dial out the safety net of initial understeer with lifts, tucks and trailed brakes is there but subtle, the car overall preferring a neat and tidy approach. Given the complexity of what's going on underneath both the German rivals do a fantastic job of giving you plenty of feedback but when you drive the McLaren it just feels a lot more natural and predictable, even well inside its limits.

Portimao's two big downhill stops do reveal a big gap between the track performance of Sports and Super Series though. Without the active aero flipping the rear wing up into its stabilising airbrake function the unweighted rear axle wriggles around under hard braking, the 570S feeling a little more lairy and - whisper it - exciting as a result. You're trading tenths for feedback and fun but is that such a bad thing?

Well if silver is a bit tame...
Well if silver is a bit tame...
The familiar three-stage Handling and Powertrain mode switches are there too; assuming you've got the former in Track the latter lets you choose throttle and gearshift response from the SSG dual-clutch. Gizmos include Powershift, GT3 Shift and Inertia Push strategies, the latter kicking in at over 5,000rpm and 60 per cent throttle for a surging sense of acceleration. Cylinder Cut meanwhile adds a bit of character to the proceedings, these functions familiar from the 650S and proof that McLaren is aware it needs to inject a bit of emotion into its cars.

The engine can't match the R8's V10 for charisma though. On the track you're quickly through the initial spike of boost and, once spooled up, the power delivery is resolutely linear to the extent it can almost feel a little flat. Although it revs out to 8,500 you'll not be chasing the redline in the way you would in a normally aspirated car. Nor is there a sense of crescendo like the R8's big-lunged V10 or the outrageous punch of the Porsche's variable vane turbos. Designated M838TE, it's apparently 30 per cent new compared with the 650S motor and includes different turbos, chargecoolers, heads and tubular equal length headers among its new features. But it still it sounds a little appliance-like, at least from the inside.

Road to discovery
I leave the track a little frustrated, feeling I've slightly over-driven the car in an impatient attempt to unlock its character. Maybe the road will reveal more.

Typical McLaren fluency on road as well
Typical McLaren fluency on road as well
With more nuanced throttle applications a sense of that familiar McLaren power delivery is noticeable. Given the realities of sightlines and the rest you're spending more time in the transitional phase than you are in the upper reaches of the rev range. Which is exciting, because that very turbocharged whoosh is always thrilling and less on/off than the binary 911, while having more mid-range to play with than the R8.

Here on the road the ceramic brakes - the 540C gets steel ones as standard - are good but a little harder to modulate than under track pressures. You start noticing thoughtful details though, like the fact the foot rest is perfectly in line with the brake. If you're a left-foot braker it's a simple slide across to the pedal; if you're regular your feet remain aligned whichever pedal you're pressing. Little things like this and the completely unadorned steering wheel (the R8's has 14 controls, plus paddles) just hammer home the driver focus.

Without the bump smothering suspension travel of the ProActive Chassis Control again the lower limits of the 570S - all relative - become obvious, be that through a snatched brake here or wriggle under power there. It's all a little more raw, without losing that distinctive plushness found in other McLarens. But like my trip across Wales in the LT the most striking thing is how reasonable the speeds on the dial are. Sure, if you want to be really naughty the 570S will pile on the mph in a fashion that'll get your palms sweating and your passenger attempting to push foot through carbon floor. But it gives you all that feedback and excitement at relatively sane speeds too. Imagine an Elise with three times the power and you're kind of there.

After an R8? Might be time to think again!
After an R8? Might be time to think again!
Degrees of separation
Once driven fears the 570S's mechanical and physical similarity to the more senior cars would blur the boundaries are shown to be false; a Super Series will still feel significantly faster and sophisticated on road or track. Whether contrived or through cost there's a sense the interior isn't quite as special as the 650S either. The McLaren minimalism is there and it still has the superb, confidence inspiring visibility. 85mm out of the reprofiled sills improves access too. But the sense of style has been diluted and it feels more 'normal' than the Super Series. The switchgear is noticeably cheaper in feel too - here the Germans deliver more in the touchy-feely stakes, if not the excitement and sense of being in a proper supercar.

And that's where the 570S will score on the test drive. The Porsche will dazzle with its complexity, opulence and gizmos. The additional seats will make it the only choice for those with need to accommodate more than one passenger, even if only occasionally. And the Audi's interior is a masterclass in style and familiarity for those who've progressed up the range, yet special enough to feel exotic and luxurious too.

But both of these cars represent the pinnacles of their respective line-ups. The McLaren? It's a first step into the realm of proper supercars. One that doesn't feel cheapened but hints at further delights for those willing and able to progress when the moment comes. £143,000 for an entry-level product - £126K when the 540C arrives next year - might sound a ludicrous proposition. But for what you're getting, yes, it sounds like a steal.

Portimao lap here.


MCLAREN 570S
Engine
: 3,799cc, V8, twin-turbo
Transmission: 7-speed SSG, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 570@7,400rpm
Torque (lb ft): 443@5,000-6,500rpm
0-62mph: 3.2sec
Top Speed: 204mph
Weight: 1,440kg (DIN plus driver)
MPG: 26.6mpg (EU combined)
CO2: 249g/km
Price: £143,250

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   
 

 

 

 

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Bencolem

Original Poster:

1,016 posts

239 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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Genuinely makes the Super Sport series redundant for me.

Baryonyx

17,995 posts

159 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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A whole package it sounds considerably more appealing than the 911 Turbo or the R8.

richyd

285 posts

227 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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Beautiful car, the design looks so much more evolved and complete versus earlier Macca's. These cars are all about driver involvement for me, so mechanical ARB's and a more analogue experience are to be applauded IMHO. I'd have one of these over an R8 or a 911Turbo all day long, ideally in a shouty colour, or white!

That track lap looked a little "lacking finesse"! Seemed quite understeery and wobbly under braking (as mentioned in the article) - could stickier tyres, Mich Cup 2's for example, help out, along with a little less boot on the gas!!

insideimsmiling

102 posts

176 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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Love the look of this more than others in the line up and cannot wait to see one on the road. They are just more of an event than ownership of an Audi or a
Porsche, offering real supercar looks on high streets littered with 911,s and are more junior Lamborghini in terms of the impression they will make in my view.
I would love one!

menguin

3,764 posts

221 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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I really can't see the problem with releasing many similar models. You could say the same about a few manufacturers - could a layman distinguish the more expensive lambo? Could a layman distinguish between a base 911 and a turbo, really?

The fact is people have different price points - even at this level - and if you're buying a McLaren to ensure Joe Bloggs on the street can see that you spent £219,999 or £153,995 on a car then you're doing it wrong. I don't think the P1 owner will worry too much that this car looks slightly similar or shares some bits. Just as the 650S owner won't - they've bought different cars.

Ed Straker

221 posts

143 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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I can't agree about the image and what other people think being unimportant.
I'll get shot down, and peeps will protest they are PHers and it's all about the driving, but the perceived image of what you are driving is a big deal.

When you get the 540, PLEASE compare it with an Evora 400. It will be nice to read about a "cheap" Lotus for a change.
smile

graeme4130

3,825 posts

181 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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Ed Straker said:
I can't agree about the image and what other people think being unimportant.
I'll get shot down, and peeps will protest they are PHers and it's all about the driving, but the perceived image of what you are driving is a big deal.

When you get the 540, PLEASE compare it with an Evora 400. It will be nice to read about a "cheap" Lotus for a change.
smile
I'll agree with you. Perceived image is very important, and 90% of people that say it isn't, are kidding themselves

Tuvra

7,921 posts

225 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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The back looks a bit pants to me, a bit bare/cheap looking. Cleverly though, I think its been made to look "a bit pants" on purpose.

Playing around with the configurator reveals:

Bet it will be a popular option but won't be cheap eek

suffolk009

5,373 posts

165 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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It looks great.

But a new 540C at £126k is going to slash the price of a second-hand 12C. I'd be happy with either, just wish they'd build a 325C.

graeme4130

3,825 posts

181 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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Ed Straker said:
I can't agree about the image and what other people think being unimportant.
I'll get shot down, and peeps will protest they are PHers and it's all about the driving, but the perceived image of what you are driving is a big deal.

When you get the 540, PLEASE compare it with an Evora 400. It will be nice to read about a "cheap" Lotus for a change.
smile
I'll agree with you. Perceived image is very important, and 90% of people that say it isn't, are kidding themselves

JonoG81

384 posts

105 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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Tuvra said:

The back looks a bit pants to me, a bit bare/cheap looking. Cleverly though, I think its been made to look "a bit pants" on purpose.

Playing around with the configurator reveals:

Bet it will be a popular option but won't be cheap eek
That CF bumper looks even worse than the standard version vomit

Tuvra

7,921 posts

225 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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JonoG81 said:
That CF bumper looks even worse than the standard version vomit
That is a CGI, so it does look a bit "full on" in that image.

Im guessing in the flesh it will look a lot nicer, especially with the CF rear splitter, engine cover & roof.

OT: I'd definitely have this over a new 911T or R8.

JonoG81

384 posts

105 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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Tuvra said:
JonoG81 said:
That CF bumper looks even worse than the standard version vomit
That is a CGI, so it does look a bit "full on" in that image.

Im guessing in the flesh it will look a lot nicer, especially with the CF rear splitter, engine cover & roof.

OT: I'd definitely have this over a new 911T or R8.
Ah, point well made, maybe it won't be so 'shiney' in real life.

And for the record, I too would take this over a 911 any day of the week

Hitch78

6,105 posts

194 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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Bencolem said:
Genuinely makes the Super Sport series redundant for me.
Are you trading down then?

Vee12V

1,332 posts

160 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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I might be the only one, but I think it looks genuinely ugly. Like a Chinese McLaren rip-off.
Shame, as it probably really is nice to drive.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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Looks amazing, and until they resolve the looks of the 650s or whatever it's called these days it would be my pick of the litter.

Only thing is (& I've said it before), the ubiquitous 911 still has the edge by dint of the back seats, as pointless as they might first seem.

Yes a two seater is fine when you fancy a Sunday morning blast over your favourite B road but what about the more usual Sunday afternoon trip out? Where do you put the kids in a mclaren?

budgie smuggler

5,376 posts

159 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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Sounds like it would be a fantastic road car for those with the cash. Looks great in the grey colour, I don't think the lairy green does it any favours personally.

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

168 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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Options list below but the exterior carbon packs are as follows:

Carbon Fibre Exterior Pack 1
Includes Door Mirrors, Side Intakes and Door Inserts in Gloss Carbon Fibre.
£5,450

Carbon Fibre Exterior Pack 2
Includes Aero Blades, Side Skirts and Diffuser in Gloss Carbon Fibre.
£7,730

Cheers,

Dan



CorvetteConvert

7,897 posts

214 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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Great car at a great price for the sector, imo. I can't afford one, unless i sell all my cars, but i reckon this is something special and even affordable to many car enthusiasts. When you think how a bloody Phantom or Aventador will relieve you of a third of a million pounds, this is a good buy, surely.
Oh well, i will just have to content myself with the thought that the trusty old 'vette has the same power output and acceleration as the above!
Yes i am clutching at straws, i want that McLaren!

Tuvra

7,921 posts

225 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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Dan Trent said:
Options list below but the exterior carbon packs are as follows:

Carbon Fibre Exterior Pack 1
Includes Door Mirrors, Side Intakes and Door Inserts in Gloss Carbon Fibre.
£5,450

Carbon Fibre Exterior Pack 2
Includes Aero Blades, Side Skirts and Diffuser in Gloss Carbon Fibre.
£7,730

Cheers,

Dan


Do you have a price for the MSO rear bumper in CF Dan?

I'll swing a guess at £4k+!