RE: Ford Fiesta ST200 - Geneva 2016

RE: Ford Fiesta ST200 - Geneva 2016

Thursday 2nd June 2016

Ford Fiesta ST200 prices announced

Tempted by a limited edition fast Fiesta? You'll pay a fair bit for one!



The Ford Fiesta ST has many endearing qualities, value for money certainly being one of them. That's been skewed slightly by the ST200 however, prices for which have now been confirmed.

You can read the full details on Ford's latest in the original news story below, but today's important info is the price: £22,745. That's £3,000 more than an ST-3 and a few hundred pounds above a 208 GTI by Peugeot Sport. It's also a grand more than the impressive Fiesta M-Sport Edition, which includes the Mountune kit, a Quaife limited-slip diff and some tasty rally-inspired trimmings. It's only five quid less than a Focus ST, in fact. The ST200 is available to order now, with the first cars arriving in June. But is it worth the extra over a standard ST? As ever, all thoughts are welcome!


ORIGINAL STORY, AS REPORTED 29/02/2016:
When fast Fords get a number attached to their name, they tend to be pretty special cars. Think Focus RS to RS500 and Sierra Cosworth to RS500 as examples. So there's some expectation riding on this Fiesta ST200, particularly given the standard set by the base car. That and the fact it's resurrecting a name from a largely forgotten (and quite good) V6 Mondeo.

Just in case there wasn't enough grey!
Just in case there wasn't enough grey!
Unfortunately, going off the spec, there's not a huge amount to be excited by. Now of course you can't judge a car solely by numbers, but arguably not as much has changed as many were expecting.

Every ST200 will be in the same colour combination, so tough luck if you don't like Storm Grey and black wheels. Also marking it out are red brake calipers, 'Charcoal' Recaro seats with silver stitching and illuminated scuff plates.

The mechanical changes are a little more interesting. You'll remember the standard Fiesta ST is sold as a 182hp car but with an overboost to 200hp whenever full throttle is used. The overboost remains for this car, claimed to boost power and torque by 15hp and 22lb ft respectively for 15 seconds every time full throttle is applied. That means peak figures of 215hp and 236lb ft, or exactly the same as a Mountune Fiesta ST... With a shorter final drive than the standard car - now 4.06 rather than 3.82 - Ford is claiming 0-62mph in 6.7 seconds (down from 6.9), a 143mph top speed (up from 137mph) and "an even more fun to drive experience".

Suspension and braking components are carried over unchanged from the standard ST; no bad thing given how that car handles, plus it hardly felt overawed by the Mountune upgrade with 'our' Fiesta.

So this fast Ford is definitely a car in the mould of the previous Fiesta ST500, rather than a preview of a Fiesta RS. We can but hope, right? Production of the ST200 will begin in June, with customer deliveries in the summer. Prices to follow soon. Looks like there's another Fiesta vs. Clio vs. 208 group test shaping up!

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WCZ

Original Poster:

10,523 posts

194 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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basically just a mountune st then!

neil1jnr

1,462 posts

155 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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MP215 performance but with no choice of colour other than the awful primer grey, pity Ford has copied Audi with that ridiculous colour.


Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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article said:
Suspension and braking components are carried over unchanged from the standard ST
...yet...

Ford said:
  • Enhanced Torque Vectoring Control
  • 3 stage Electronic Stability Control
  • Front steering knuckle has also been modified
  • Modified rear twist-beam to increase roll-stiffness
  • Front and rear damper settings are changed - centre of gravity having been lowered by 15mm
  • Steering arm has shortened and the steering ratio is quicker
  • Rear brakes "beefed up"

Dave_ST220

10,294 posts

205 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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neil1jnr said:
the awful primer grey, pity Ford has copied Audi with that ridiculous colour.
yes Should've made it blue!!

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Podie said:
article said:
Suspension and braking components are carried over unchanged from the standard ST
...yet...

Ford said:
  • Enhanced Torque Vectoring Control
  • 3 stage Electronic Stability Control
  • Front steering knuckle has also been modified
  • Modified rear twist-beam to increase roll-stiffness
  • Front and rear damper settings are changed - centre of gravity having been lowered by 15mm
  • Steering arm has shortened and the steering ratio is quicker
  • Rear brakes "beefed up"
Sauce? I'd imagine the PH article is based on a press release.

Quite impressive changes for 15hp though.

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Krikkit said:
Sauce? I'd imagine the PH article is based on a press release.
Ford's own press release...

Ford said:
28 FEBRUARY 2016
FORD UNVEILS NEW 200PS FIESTA ST200 AT GENEVA
28/02/16 from Ford
Ford unveils new 200PS Fiesta ST200 version of acclaimed Fiesta ST hot hatch delivering 10 per cent more power and 20 per cent more torque for 6.7sec 0-62 mph acceleration and even better in-gear performance
Most powerful production Fiesta ever also features exclusive specification with unique Storm Grey exterior, machined matt black alloy wheels and special interior detailing
All-new Ford GT road- and race-cars are displayed side-by-side for the first time in Europe
COLOGNE, Germany, 29 February 2016 – The acclaimed Ford Fiesta ST compact hot hatch is about to get even hotter.

Ford will today reveal ahead of the Geneva Motor Show a new Ford Fiesta ST200 model that delivers 10 per cent more power and 20 per cent more torque, with 200PS and 290Nm from a specially calibrated 1.6-litre EcoBoost petrol engine.

The most powerful production Fiesta ever, the Fiesta ST200 will sprint from 0-62mph in 6.7sec, and will feature an exclusive specification including a unique Storm Grey exterior, distinctive machined matt black alloy wheels and special interior detailing. Production of the Fiesta ST200 starts from June with customer deliveries this summer.

“The Fiesta ST is truly beloved by owners and critics. The ST200 takes this special drivers’ car to a new level of power and performance,” said Joe Bakaj, vice president, Product Development, Ford of Europe. “I think it’s a future classic in the making.”

Fiesta ST200

In addition to the exclusive exterior colour and 17-inch alloy wheel specification, Fiesta ST200 models also will feature red painted brake callipers and an enhanced interior with unique partial leather Charcoal Recaro front seats and contrasting silver stitching, alongside illuminated scuff plates and seatbelts with silver detailing.

The Fiesta ST200’s 1.6-litre EcoBoost engine can deliver an additional 15PS and 30Nm of torque for up to 15 seconds using transient overboost. A 4.06 ratio final drive – shortened from 3.82 in the Fiesta ST – further enhances in-gear acceleration for improved drivability and an even more fun to drive experience. Top speed is 143mph.

Like the Fiesta ST, the ST200 delivers optimised cornering and agility using:

Enhanced Torque Vectoring Control and 3-mode Electronic Stability Control
A specially modified front steering knuckle
An adapted rear twist-beam with increased roll-stiffness
Unique front and rear spring and damper settings with a 15 mm lower centre of gravity
Sharper 13.69:1 steering ratio and shortened steering arm
Enhanced braking system with a larger tandem brake master cylinder and rear disc brakes
The Fiesta ST launched in 2013, delivering 182PS and 240Nm of torque from a 1.6 litre EcoBoost engine and 0-62 mph acceleration in 6.9 seconds – quickly establishing itself as the Europe’s leading compact performance hatchback and earning more than 20 awards around the world within its first year on sale. Ford has since sold 30,000 Fiesta STs in Europe, of which over 19,200 were in Britain.

Road- and race-car Ford GTs side-by-side

Ford earlier this month confirmed that four Ford Chip Ganassi Racing Ford GTs – two competing in the 2016 FIA World Endurance Championship (WEC) and two in the 2016 IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar Championship –will race for GTE Pro class glory at the iconic 24 Hours of Le Mans endurance race on June 18-19.

Ford is returning to Le Mans 50 years after achieving a legendary 1-2-3 finish at the 1966 race with the original Ford GT40 race-car. The four cars will carry race numbers 66, 67, 68 and 69 in a nod to Ford’s four successive Le Mans victories between 1966 and 1969.

Accompanying the race- and road-car Ford GTs in Geneva will be four Ford Chip Ganassi Racing Le Mansdrivers; Stefan Muecke, Olivier Pla and Andy Priaulx from the WEC; and Dirk Mueller from the IMSA championship.

The pinnacle of the Ford Performance line-up, the all-new Ford GT serves as a technology showcase for EcoBoost performance, aerodynamics and lightweight carbon fibre construction.

The Ford GT will be one of the most exclusive Ford vehicles ever with limited volume sold around the world and production for customers in Europe starting late this year.

“Whether it’s the new Fiesta ST200, or our game-changing all-new Focus RS, or the groundbreaking Ford GT supercar, our Ford Performance offering has never been so strong,” said Raj Nair, Ford executive vice president and chief technical officer, Global Product Development. “Ford’s EcoBoost engine technology has enabled a Ford Performance model to suit every budget and lifestyle.”

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Thanks, not sure why they didn't just apply all those changes for the rest of the range too...

WCZ

Original Poster:

10,523 posts

194 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Podie said:
article said:
Suspension and braking components are carried over unchanged from the standard ST
...yet...

Ford said:
  • Enhanced Torque Vectoring Control
  • 3 stage Electronic Stability Control
  • Front steering knuckle has also been modified
  • Modified rear twist-beam to increase roll-stiffness
  • Front and rear damper settings are changed - centre of gravity having been lowered by 15mm
  • Steering arm has shortened and the steering ratio is quicker
  • Rear brakes "beefed up"
they are simply the changes a regular st has over the vanilla cars.

AH33

2,066 posts

135 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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they need a less boring looking version, I was looking into them last year, they look almost identical to the vanilla fiesta.

May not be certain people's cup of tea, but it needs a bit more visual aggression IMO.

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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WCZ said:
they are simply the changes a regular st has over the vanilla cars.
I stand corrected.

mooseracer

1,885 posts

170 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Krikkit said:
Sauce?
Bit early for a Monday wink

RumbleOfThunder

3,554 posts

203 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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I like it a lot! Would take it over an M Sport any day of the week.

HJMS123

988 posts

133 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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WCZ said:
they are simply the changes a regular st has over the vanilla cars.
Beat me to it!

hufggfg

654 posts

193 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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I'm confused. This car essentially has the MP215 engine, and has a shorter final drive than the standard car, yet Ford are quoting the 0-62 figure of the ST200 as 6.7, where the 0-60 of the MP215 is 6.4.

Is this a case of Ford not wanting the ST200 to step on the Focus ST's toes (and its official 6.5 time)?

Jack.

38 posts

177 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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The shorter gearing may mean an extra gear change before 60. I will check later but I'm sure 60mph is around the top of 2nd gear in my ST.

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Jack. said:
The shorter gearing may mean an extra gear change before 60. I will check later but I'm sure 60mph is around the top of 2nd gear in my ST.
According to the test below, the normal ST maxes at just under 60. I notice above someone is comparing 0-60 with 0-62 times .....which are going to take slightly longer.
Wonder if the shorter-geared car with more poke is a bit trickier to get off the mark.....but is quicker for the in-gear times where initial traction not so much an issue?


Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

130 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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But how much is it? I assume its based on a ST3 as it has cruise and parking sensors, if its not too much more i think il upgrade from my panther black ST

daydotz

1,742 posts

161 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Like the colour although I wish ford offered the ST in silver

VeeFource

1,076 posts

177 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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daydotz said:
Like the colour although I wish ford offered the ST in silver
Agreed, I think silver would really suit this car.

If only they'd address the buzzy intake noise and make it sound more like the nice warbly one in the focus st. Somehow doubt they will have done for this variant, but fingers crossed for the next gen!

HJMS123

988 posts

133 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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Dull ... It's basically a Mountune ST3 with no colour choice.

I expected at least a special colour and diff. I much prefer the grey from the focus.