RE: Volkswagen Golf GTI TCR

RE: Volkswagen Golf GTI TCR

Wednesday 9th March 2016

Volkswagen Golf GTI TCR

Golf touring car gets an update for the GTI's 40th and first test next week



Now if this Golf looks familiar, then your memory is not deceiving you; this is the Golf TCR first seen last summer. Except it isn't quite the same, because it's now a Golf GTI TCR.

Mechanically it's unchanged though, with a 330hp 2.0-litre turbo and DSG gearbox. It even looks pretty much identical, with the 40cm increase in width, huge rear wing and front splitter carried over. Sure, there's now a GTI grille, but this is clearly still the same car.

Can we mention the Clubsport again yet?
Can we mention the Clubsport again yet?
What's significant about the TCR now though is that 2016 is the Golf GTI's 40th anniversary and, well, that has to be worth celebrating a little more. As well as that, VW Motorsport has now sold all 20 cars allocated for this season. Interestingly there are 16 championships the TCR cars are now eligible for, from a national series across Europe to a USA championship, a TCR Asia event and a class for the cars at the 'ring 24-hour as well. The first test will take place at the Circuit Ricardo Tormo in Valencia next Monday.

Now this all sounds well and good, particularly with some inter-VW rivalry against the Leon Cup Racer, but the TCR does rather show what the Golf GTI Clubsport could have been. A 40th anniversary car in all but name, the Clubsport branding did rather suggest a more comprehensive overhaul than a little more power and a flash of Alcantara. Imagine how it could have been with a 330hp version of the EA888 engine, some proper aero and a stripped out interior. It would have rather stood on the toes of the Golf R, but given VW describes the GTI as "more than just a seal of quality - it is a trademark and an identity" it shouldn't be unreasonable to expect something a little more focused for such an anniversary. A limited edition perhaps?

Anyway, the TCR International Series begins in Bahrain in April, running alongside the F1 race. Given VW's investment and the fact that a Leon Cup Racer won the championship last year, it would be a brave person to bet against the Golf TCR enjoying some success. Perhaps if VW triumphs we can have a proper Clubsport in celebration?

 

 

[TCR championship info: Wikipedia]

 

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GTEYE

Original Poster:

2,096 posts

210 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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As regards another fast road-going Golf....does the world actually need yet another one?


WCZ

10,521 posts

194 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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what happened to the R400 ?

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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GTEYE said:
As regards another fast road-going Golf....does the world actually need yet another one?
Reading the article is beneath you, huh?

Gary29

4,154 posts

99 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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Will look nice in the VW Racing Cup

generationx

6,730 posts

105 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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WCZ said:
what happened to the R400 ?
When I talked to a UK salesman about this he implied that the project has been postponed (for an unknown period) due to backlash from the diesel "scandal" making another "fuel-guzzling" performance version look a little incongruous.


Ares

11,000 posts

120 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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Another pointless article about a VAG performance car than you can't actually get to own and drive on the road....

Sorry, thats the 911R. Where's the backlash here? wink


iphonedyou

9,248 posts

157 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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GTEYE said:
As regards another fast road-going Golf....does the world actually need yet another one?
It's not road-going. Did you look at the pictures, let alone read the article!?

Evilex

512 posts

104 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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TCR?
Will there be a Scalextric one along shortly?

dc2rr07

1,238 posts

231 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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Delete the rear wing and front splitter for production and get it on sale VW, oh and under 30k would be nice 25k would be even better smile

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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dc2rr07 said:
Delete the rear wing and front splitter for production and get it on sale VW, oh and under 30k would be nice 25k would be even better smile
From the Seat Leon article:
"Price: From 70,000 euros"

Evidently some people don't actually know what they're looking at.

tankplanker

2,479 posts

279 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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generationx said:
When I talked to a UK salesman about this he implied that the project has been postponed (for an unknown period) due to backlash from the diesel "scandal" making another "fuel-guzzling" performance version look a little incongruous.
Lots of rumours flying round, the one I think is likely is that the guy in charge of the R400 got the sack over the emissions scandel, VW R&D chief Heinz-Jakob Neusser.

Personally I think its just been pushed back to the Mark 8 that is due shortly, I think we'll see a three tiers of performance models, with the GTI closer to the current R in performance, and the R pushed further up to compete with the new Focus RS, consuming much of what would have made the R400 unique.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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generationx said:
WCZ said:
what happened to the R400 ?
When I talked to a UK salesman about this he implied that the project has been postponed (for an unknown period) due to backlash from the diesel "scandal" making another "fuel-guzzling" performance version look a little incongruous.
With all due respect, Salesman know very little and that quote sounds like nonsense. All I can say with certainty is VW will make sure they have a worth Focus RS rival in the pipeline. As recently as last month VW have confirmed the R420 will be released this year.

SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

220 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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iphonedyou said:
GTEYE said:
As regards another fast road-going Golf....does the world actually need yet another one?
It's not road-going. Did you look at the pictures, let alone read the article!?
He could have been referring to the last sentence of the article?


GTEYE

Original Poster:

2,096 posts

210 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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xRIEx said:
GTEYE said:
As regards another fast road-going Golf....does the world actually need yet another one?
Reading the article is beneath you, huh?
I was well aware of that thanks.

I was referencing the paragraph in the article that suggested that VW could do another more elaborate (than the Clubsport) anniversary special to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the GTi.

Maybe you should read the article yourself, smart%$£*

GTEYE

Original Poster:

2,096 posts

210 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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SuperchargedVR6 said:
iphonedyou said:
GTEYE said:
As regards another fast road-going Golf....does the world actually need yet another one?
It's not road-going. Did you look at the pictures, let alone read the article!?
He could have been referring to the last sentence of the article?
Indeed!

Ares

11,000 posts

120 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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GTEYE said:
SuperchargedVR6 said:
iphonedyou said:
GTEYE said:
As regards another fast road-going Golf....does the world actually need yet another one?
It's not road-going. Did you look at the pictures, let alone read the article!?
He could have been referring to the last sentence of the article?
Indeed!
Good save wink

siony1974

38 posts

136 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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When I saw the TCR bit it took me straight back to my childhood and the world of 'Total Control Racing'. It pee pee'd all over Scalextric.
Back to the Golf, I think that there must be much head scratching at VW about where you place such a model price wise. If it's a low volume model then it obviously commands a hefty premium over a Golf R. I don't know any german swear words but I'm sure that VW use them every day when asked about the R400 and froth at the mouth even more if someone mentions the words BMW M2. I'm pretty sure any low volume, halo Golf model would be knocking in at close to £40k. With the hard core following the Golf has though, VW know they'll sell every TCR, R400 they make regardless of cost.

Ares

11,000 posts

120 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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siony1974 said:
When I saw the TCR bit it took me straight back to my childhood and the world of 'Total Control Racing'. It pee pee'd all over Scalextric.
Back to the Golf, I think that there must be much head scratching at VW about where you place such a model price wise. If it's a low volume model then it obviously commands a hefty premium over a Golf R. I don't know any german swear words but I'm sure that VW use them every day when asked about the R400 and froth at the mouth even more if someone mentions the words BMW M2. I'm pretty sure any low volume, halo Golf model would be knocking in at close to £40k. With the hard core following the Golf has though, VW know they'll sell every TCR, R400 they make regardless of cost.
Perhaps.....but would you buy one over a BMW M2, ceteris paribus?

epom

11,504 posts

161 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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Golf R would wipe the floor with it.

Escort Si-130

3,272 posts

180 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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The Golf R400 sounds a good proposition, but trouble is VW is generally overpriced in the UK for what it is. Go and buy it in other countries around the globe and they are priced similar to rivals. It would be treading on the toes of the Audi RS3 pricewise and would it offer that much advantage around the track over the standard Golf R.
I really cant see the Golf R400 happening, despite if VW had the emissions scandal or not.

siony1974 said:
When I saw the TCR bit it took me straight back to my childhood and the world of 'Total Control Racing'. It pee pee'd all over Scalextric.
Back to the Golf, I think that there must be much head scratching at VW about where you place such a model price wise. If it's a low volume model then it obviously commands a hefty premium over a Golf R. I don't know any german swear words but I'm sure that VW use them every day when asked about the R400 and froth at the mouth even more if someone mentions the words BMW M2. I'm pretty sure any low volume, halo Golf model would be knocking in at close to £40k. With the hard core following the Golf has though, VW know they'll sell every TCR, R400 they make regardless of cost.