RE: Peugeot 308 GTI: UK Review

RE: Peugeot 308 GTI: UK Review

Monday 21st March 2016

Peugeot 308 GTI: UK Review

James once owned a 306 GTI-6 - can he uncover some of that Peugeot hot hatch magic in the 308 GTI?



Having owned two different 205s, a 106 Rallye and two 306 GTI-6s, I desperately want Peugeot to return to those glory days. And take the fight back to the Golf with which it shares those iconic three letters.


Famously having dropped the GTI ball and let VW run with it, it's easy to forget that back then things were the other way around. When Peugeot was at the top of its game VW lumbered us with the rather uninspiring Mk3 and Mk4 GTIs, before rediscovering its mojo with the Mk5 and onwards. Peugeot needs something exceptional to seriously challenge this winning streak and knock the current Golf GTI off its perch.

And the French have come out swinging, not least with a starting price identical to that of the equivalent five-door Golf GTI. To that, Peugeot has drawn up a spec that should make us all sit up and take notice, including a 270hp 1.6-litre engine, six-speed manual gearbox, suitably wider, lower and stiffer chassis and - crucially - a mechanical limited-slip diff. Michelin Pilot Super Sport tyres and Alcon brakes are also standard kit and demonstrate commendable reluctance to skimp on the detail or the substance - our test car had just two options, just one of which really makes any odds. But I'll come to that later.


Full fat
There is a 'diet' 250hp version too but this is the full-fat 270hp model, sharing a motor with the RCZ-R and impressing with both its numbers and the tech within to deliver it. It claims to be the most powerful production engine of its size and includes goodies like Mahle lightweight pistons, a twin-scroll turbo and host of other tech. This manifests itself as a potent mix, with a wide spread of torque and heady turn of speed. Shame it never sounds as inspiring as it looks on paper though, even with the Sport button pressed and additional noise piped into the cabin. Manual-only sounds laudable in this age of dual-clutches too - a pity then it's not quite the sharpest.

The Torsen limited-slip differential, on the other hand, suits the car well, especially for road use. Getting on the power early still brings with it that feeling of the car being sucked towards the apex, but it is much more subtle than, say, a Megane. For those who enjoy life on the edge it's possibly all a bit safe and predictable but it's a worthy feature and adds welcome dynamism you can enjoy at civilian speeds too.


On point
Same can be said of the chassis set-up, which is both taut and yet still comfortable too. It feels tied down without being excessively stiff for the sake of it, meaning it feels agile, well damped and fun to drive with all the enthusiasm you'd hope in a hot Peugeot. The 308's relatively light weight helps here - its 1,205kg is equivalent to cars from a class down like the Renaultsport Clio.

It does, however, quickly reach a point experienced drivers or track day regulars will find a little limiting. Initial understeer is to be expected but there's seemingly no option to adjust the car's attitude on the throttle as you can the best hot hatches.

Generally good though. Until we get to the steering. At first I thought it was just the tiny, weirdly positioned wheel with its over-stuffed rim. But as I put that aside I concentrated on the steering feel, or lack of it. Not unusual in this day and age and not disastrous but to regain that hot hatch crown Peugeot needs to be doing better than OK.

Steer around the issue
Cabin-wise it's also difficult to see past that steering wheel, figuratively and literally. The seats are excellent though, more so with the standard fit massage function activated. Fit and finish might not be up to the best of the class but it's acceptable and the standard kit is generous with all the expected aids and even a rear-view camera. A calculator is a quirky addition to the infotainment system but, perhaps, a handy bonus for maths students looking to while away traffic jams crunching numbers.


Generally handsome, if a little plain, the looks of our test car were dominated by one of the two option boxes ticked. Yes, we're talking about 'that' paint scheme. At £1,300 the Coupe Franche two-tone is certainly an acquired taste. Perhaps less Marmite and more like tripe, by which I mean I haven't yet met anyone who likes it and if I did I'd question their sanity.

So, back to where we began. Is the 308 GTI enough to win over someone with fond memories of fast Peugeots of old but more recent ones of benchmark competition from the dominant Germans? After a quick once-over in the showroom and, perhaps, a short test drive you'd be hard pressed to find anything stand-out to tempt you away from the usual suspects. And perhaps a few - that steering wheel for instance - that might have you running for the hills. Which is a shame. Because I don't think anyone brave enough to take the plunge would end up being disappointed with their purchase.


PEUGEOT 308 GTI 270
Engine: 1,598cc, four-cylinder THP
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 270@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 243@1,900-5,500rpm
0-62mph: 6.0sec
Top speed: 155mph
Weight: 1,205kg (plus driver)
MPG: 39.2
CO2: 139g/km
Price: £29,695 (Basic of £28,155 with Coupe Franche paint for £1,300 and Peugeot connect SOS and assistance for £240)

 

 

 


[Photos: Chris Teagles]

Author
Discussion

harleywilma

Original Poster:

519 posts

243 months

Sunday 20th March 2016
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What a boring looking car! typical Peugeot..

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

200 months

Sunday 20th March 2016
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Loved my 205GTIs back in the day. But agree painting it half red, half black (aside from silly) does nothing to hide a boring looking eurobox.

The most important stat is 875kg.

That's the kerb weight of the 205GTI 1.9.

Not 1200+

Edited by Northern Munkee on Sunday 20th March 10:32

ChrisR99

452 posts

111 months

Sunday 20th March 2016
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Lovely looking car, and the review was overly harsh IMO.

stuckmojo

2,979 posts

188 months

Sunday 20th March 2016
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They even had to paint it in two colours to make it look interesting.

Thirty grand!

Is there even one reason for anyone to consider this? One?

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Sunday 20th March 2016
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I too had a 205 GTI which I loves but there is no way this will ever be sub 1000kg. I think k they have done well with the

relative lack of mass but no idea why anyone would buy this over a Focus RS or Megane.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Sunday 20th March 2016
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stuckmojo said:
They even had to paint it in two colours to make it look interesting.

Thirty grand!

Is there even one reason for anyone to consider this? One?
Yes, for some reason you simply don't want:

A Focus ST, VXR Astra, Civic Type R, Golf R, Golf GTI, Megane RS or a BMW M135i.

silly they will sell four.

I don't actually mind its looks, even the paint. But this is a cuthroat sector and "just okay" isn't good enough, by a long margin.

rtz62

3,367 posts

155 months

Sunday 20th March 2016
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Massage function.
In any self-respecting GTi?
Really??
Personally, I think this just shows that Peugeot are getting distracted away from driving dynamics by sybaritic fripperies, which should have no place in a GTi. A big GT, yes, but not something in this market sector.
Surely they would have been better fitting some Recaro-type minimalistic seats, dropping the dual-colour paint scheme, calculator, and strip it back to what should surely be the essence of GTi ownership
As such, this wouldn't even make my shortlist....

WCZ

10,523 posts

194 months

Sunday 20th March 2016
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stuckmojo said:
They even had to paint it in two colours to make it look interesting.

Thirty grand!

Is there even one reason for anyone to consider this? One?
" 270hp 1.6-litre engine, six-speed manual gearbox, suitably wider, lower and stiffer chassis and - crucially - a mechanical limited-slip diff. Michelin Pilot Super Sport tyres and Alcon brakes are also standard kit "

pretty good spec though!

blearyeyedboy

6,290 posts

179 months

Sunday 20th March 2016
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I think high lease prices are more of an issue than high purchase costs in this sector.

Buyers in this market who are well-informed to see beyond a fashionable badge will also be well informed enough to know that they can lease a Golf R or BMW 135i for the same money.

Peugeot need to sort out the finance before they can hope to succeed, no matter how good the car is.

BeirutTaxi

6,631 posts

214 months

Sunday 20th March 2016
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£30k for a Peugeot!

Imo Peugeot should play to their strengths ie amazingly cheap price.

dunnoreally

963 posts

108 months

Sunday 20th March 2016
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Rather a shame, this - I really wanted to like these. I'm personally a fan of the more muted styling, and the spec really does sound great on paper. Still, if it doesn't translate to the driving, I guess that's that.

I do wonder if this would have been better received in estate form, wearing a Citroen badge and with its sights set more toward the Octavia VRS. That way PSA could perhaps let Peugeot Sport make something a bit more raucous and bare bones for the VXR/Renaultsport crowd. They'd need to find a way to drive prices down a fair bit first, of course

Quhet

2,420 posts

146 months

Sunday 20th March 2016
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Too expensive. Needs to be noticeably cheaper than the Golf GTI to really compete IMO

wemorgan

3,578 posts

178 months

Sunday 20th March 2016
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List price and purchase price will not be the same number with this car.
Ignore the £30k. The lease and PvP will be more significant.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 20th March 2016
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It's a cracking car. The review rehashes the usual complaint about the steering wheel - it takes about 15 seconds to sort it. (My mum and dad drive a 208, and she's 5'2" and he's 6'5" and neither of them have a problem, so I would have thought a motoring journalist could possibly manage to get it in a suitable position) It is howwever grossly too expensive, and the servicing promises me to be astronomical. For driving enjoyment, I would still rather have the 208 GTi. Peugeot would never put the 1.6THP270 engine and set up in the 208, but that would be a hoot.

EDLT

15,421 posts

206 months

Sunday 20th March 2016
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Northern Munkee said:
Loved my 205GTIs back in the day. But agree painting it half red, half black (aside from silly) does nothing to hide a boring looking eurobox.

The most important stat is 875kg.

That's the kerb weight of the 205GTI 1.9.

Not 1200+
The 306 GTi-6 was 1214kg.

M1C

1,833 posts

111 months

Sunday 20th March 2016
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Agreed, admittedly its not the 308 but I've driven the 208 and 2008 and at 6ft 2" I have zero problem with the steering wheel, in fact I really like it!

kmack

157 posts

133 months

Sunday 20th March 2016
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As everyone has said £30k! Buy one next year for £15k and PCP/Lease deals are priced on residual values so I cant see Peugeot being able to offer competitive deals. No wonder Peugeot are struggling...

mnx42

215 posts

163 months

Sunday 20th March 2016
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I quite like the look of this tbh.. but its a lot of money. Shame!

The Wookie

13,946 posts

228 months

Sunday 20th March 2016
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ChrisR99 said:
Lovely looking car, and the review was overly harsh IMO.
I agree, no mention of the fact that it manages to handle that well without a bone shaking ride.

Review reads like one of the previous generation when in fact they've made a huge leap forward IMHO

Kawasicki

13,082 posts

235 months

Sunday 20th March 2016
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The weight in the article is wrong.

I'd estimate 1400 kg, completely normal for the class.