RE: Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport: Review

RE: Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport: Review

Wednesday 12th October 2016

Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport: Review

Does the Stingray engine and (most of) the Z06 chassis make for the best C7 Corvette you probably can't buy?



Writing about a Corvette for a British audience is a bit like trying to pen a review of the Lunar Rover. Both are strange, esoteric machines. Ones that - although we're aware of their existence - have almost no chance of crossing our paths.

Officially it is still possible to buy a Corvette in the UK, although the Dealer Locator page on the Chevrolet website now has more tumbleweed than actual outlets. Indeed, there seems to be only one sales operation left - Ian Allen in Surrey. Yet even before sterling's recent plunge against the dollar the 'vette has always struggled to gain any ground in Europe, thanks mainly to the need to offset import costs against miniscule sales. Back in the States the Stingray is priced hard against an entry-level Cayman, whereas in the UK it's most of the way to 911 money. And that's with the steering wheel on the wrong side.

Chevrolet now changing weather for moody shots
Chevrolet now changing weather for moody shots
But the Corvettes that have made the long trip to Blighty have always faced another problem. It's that tomato/tom-ay-to thing - they just don't translate that well. I've driven functionally identical C7 'vettes on both sides of the Atlantic and have experienced this geographic schizophrenia at first hand. Hoovering up a desert road in New Mexico with the V8 blaring the Corvette feels planted, fast and thrilling. Asked to deal with a wet Tuesday on the B660 it's suddenly a big, crude handful.

So it's probably a good thing that, having driven the new Corvette Grand Sport in the US, there's minimal chance I'll get to experience it in Britain. Because in rural Michigan I absolutely loved it, and I'd hate for anything to cloud the memories of this holiday romance.

Middle of the road
Porsche runs the Porsche 911 model strategy like a military timetable, with a new variant or go-fastered version pretty much once a month. GM marches to a far slower drumbeat. The standard C7 Stingray was launched three years ago, the supercar humbling Z06 followed in 2016, and now the Grand Sport arrives as the third model variant, sitting in the middle of the range and pretty much splitting the difference.

So while it sticks with the regular Corvette's naturally-aspirated 6.2-litre V8 - yes, the one that still features pushrods - it gets the brash bodywork and much of the reworked chassis hardware of the Z06. That means a mere 460hp, a number that only really looks inadequate when compared directly with the Z06's 650hp, with the official 3.8sec 0-60mph time proving the continued vitality of the GS's power-to-weight ratio.

Deliberate Ferrari-aping colour scheme?
Deliberate Ferrari-aping colour scheme?
Buyers can also chose to add what's called the Z07 pack, an option that brings carbon ceramic brakes and Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tyres. On top of that there's also a Stage 2 aero pack available, adding super-aggressive vanes and winglets. Together they pretty much turn the Grand Sport into a naturally-aspirated version of the Z06.

The Corvette remains one of the cars you could identify while blindfolded, certainly if you've ever experienced one. Firstly, because you're almost certain to bang your head on the way into the tight-fitting cockpit, GM refusing to acknowledge that the average American man is getting on for twice the size as when the original 'vette was launched in 1953. But mostly because of the smell, an evocative aroma of glassfibre and resin that rises up as soon as the door is opened. It's similar to the scent that TVRs give off, but subtly different. GM could bottle it; it would go well with a half-open shirt and a big gold medallion.

Skin deep
The cabin seems to be pretty much identical to that of the regular Corvette, which means it's good at making a first impression but with plenty of cheap bits when you start to look more closely. There's a big central touchscreen running GM's standard North American suite of apps, and a VDU rev counter that's flanked by a conventional speedo on the left and fuel and temperature gauges on the right, the brightness of the different sections not quite matching up.

Patchy quality in here, but what a manual!
Patchy quality in here, but what a manual!
Having (briefly) experienced a Z06 last year I was expecting the Grand Sport to feel a bit anemic, but it's anything but. The V8 pulls strongly pretty much around the clock; there's not the low down get-thee-gone shove that comes from forced induction, but it doesn't feel lacking below 2,000rpm, even when asked to pull the ludicrously long seventh gear. Yes, it's still got pushrods and two valves per cylinder, but dig deeper and it starts to feel properly serious. I don't remember the regular Stingray feeling this quick, with some properly outrageous noises coming from the quad exhaust tailpipes. It's not a revver, with peak power at 6,000rpm and the limiter calling time just 500rpm later, but it's definitely happiest when working the top quarter of its range.

The car I drove had the Z07 pack, including some outrageously sized 335/25ZR20 tyres on the rear axle that'd put a road roller to shame. Despite the track-focused rubber and suspension it didn't feel anything like as compromised on road as circuit specials often do. Which was a good thing as I didn't have a track to go and play on, just the public roads around Chelsea in Michigan. By happy non-coincidence, these happen to be one of the favourite testing venues for GM's development engineers as well.

Hell yeah
The roads are certainly challenging, with some big cambers and poor quality surfaces doing a half-decent impression of a poorly maintained British B-road. Yet thanks to the range of the switchable dampers, controlled by the rotary dynamic control switch with Tour, Sport and Track modes, it didn't feel harsh even at a fairly serious lick. It's definitely firmer than the regular Stingray, but also better lashed down over surfaces that would likely get its boggo sister feeling floaty. The steering is also crisper than the regular 'vette, with a searingly fast turn-in that takes a while to get dialled into.

Certainly the best NA Corvette yet
Certainly the best NA Corvette yet
Grip is massive - but not too massive. Chevrolet claims the Pilot Sports are capable of delivering up to 1.2G of lateral grip on a dry surface, and they're more than sticky enough to allow the Grand Sport to carry huge speed everywhere. It takes the combination of a slow corner and deliberate throttle abuse to get the chassis to even admit it has limits, either through the angry strobing of the stability light or - with the system off - the sense of the back starting to shift. Like the regular Stingray it's not a drift machine, but despite the quantity of raw adhesion it never feels over-tyred or inert.

The rest of it impresses too, certainly on its home territory. The optional carbon brakes are fine on road, working quietly and without any drama when cold. The manual gearbox is a peach too, probably the one area where U.S. sports cars are now clearly ahead of their European equivalents - both the weighting and action are pretty much spot-on. Crucially the rev-matching system can be turned on and off as well.

Grass greener
Americans often complain about the awesome European market performance cars the motor industry denies them, from SEAT Cupras to Audi RS6s. With the recent death of the Dodge Viper the Corvette and its Camaro sister are the only real examples of when the tables get turned, and anyone dedicated enough can indeed buy one here.

Would it really be worth the money over here?
Would it really be worth the money over here?
But to do so would be mad. Much as I like the Grand Sport in Michigan I know I'd like it a lot less in the UK, wearing what would probably be a £80,000 pricetag.

But this could well be the last Corvette we're denied. Work is already advanced on the next car, which is going to be mid-engined and - you'd imagine - with its huge development costs offset by the need to broaden sales. With Ford showing the way with the right-hand drive Mustang let's hope that Chevrolet has the sense to follow. Oh, and not to try and stick Vauxhall badges on the finished car if it makes it over here.


CORVETTE GRAND SPORT
Engine:
6,162cc V8
Transmission: 7-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 460@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 465@4,600rpm
0-60mph: 3.6sec
Top speed: 175mph
Weight: 1,590kg (manufacturer figure)
MPG: 25 (est.)
CO2: Are you, or have you ever been, a communist?
Price: Depressingly cheap over there, annoyingly expensive here

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fatboy18

Original Poster:

18,947 posts

211 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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Great Car, but sadly the UK Sports car owner only seems to like RHD! Time and time again I get this when people ask me about my car. Funny how they go to Europe and seem to cope with their RHD car!

I like being different and have had a couple of Yanks in the UK and NEVER have had the perceived Problems Right Hand Drive owners think you will encounter.

Price at the moment will make sales hard, but hopefully the Brexit thing will smooth over and the pound will fair better with the US Dollar. What is good is that Unlike Dodge, Corvette will back up warrantee work in Europe.

tim milne

344 posts

233 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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I thought the yellow stripes down the side of the car were an interesting swooping extension of the two yellow stripes on the wing, but no, it's just the reflection from the centre-lines on the road.

Over here, would these deter parking tickets?

irocfan

40,434 posts

190 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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fatboy18 said:
Great Car, but sadly the UK Sports car owner only seems to like RHD! Time and time again I get this when people ask me about my car. Funny how they go to Europe and seem to cope with their RHD car!

I like being different and have had a couple of Yanks in the UK and NEVER have had the perceived Problems Right Hand Drive owners think you will encounter.

Price at the moment will make sales hard, but hopefully the Brexit thing will smooth over and the pound will fair better with the US Dollar. What is good is that Unlike Dodge, Corvette will back up warrantee work in Europe.
what's also interesting is how quickly some of the LHD naysayers are when it comes to an Integrale or an original M3...

be that as it may I can see the vfm argument - to a point. Personally I prefer the look of it to a 911 and this alone could sway me - however there are other cars out there at this price point which I prefer even more so a moot point.


As an aside... come on PH how's about an in-depth article on the GS's grandmother shown below cloud9


Regiment

2,799 posts

159 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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fatboy18 said:
Great Car, but sadly the UK Sports car owner only seems to like RHD! Time and time again I get this when people ask me about my car. Funny how they go to Europe and seem to cope with their RHD car!

I like being different and have had a couple of Yanks in the UK and NEVER have had the perceived Problems Right Hand Drive owners think you will encounter.

Price at the moment will make sales hard, but hopefully the Brexit thing will smooth over and the pound will fair better with the US Dollar. What is good is that Unlike Dodge, Corvette will back up warrantee work in Europe.
I was looking at a 5th gen Camaro and was put off by the LHD of it for 2 reasons, first being overtaking on a busy A road where I'd presume I'd need to stick the car quite far out to see if it's safe, second was getting in and out of the work car park and the multi stories, etc. I'd need a designated passenger.

It is sad that there isn't a RHD version of the Camaro and Corvette, it'd encourage more people to buy them as they're so much nicer to look at than a BMW M car or a Porsche,

aeropilot

34,582 posts

227 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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fatboy18 said:
As an aside... come on PH how's about an in-depth article on the GS's grandmother shown below cloud9

All five GS's built were reunited back at the 2003 Amelia Island Concours cloud9





Edited by aeropilot on Wednesday 12th October 13:33

fatboy18

Original Poster:

18,947 posts

211 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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OK, I will give you the Multi Story car park one smile Now the Overtaking one is a bit of a myth, Firstly if the A road has a good overtaking stretch you hang back a couple of cars length so you can see clearly and then overtake. If there is not enough room for you to hang back a bit then the overtaking area is not really a safe spot! You will also find there are some small benefits of LHD which is that on RH Bends you sometimes get a more advanced look at whats coming as opposed to the RHD Driver, this can give you an edge and you can make your overtake early. Dead straight roads are a little more tricky but as I said you just hang back a bit more and then put your foot down as you have all that extra power to see you through the maneuver smile

The Dartford Crossing used to be fun in my car, I used to have to pull up well before the barrier, walk down to the pay booth hand over cash, get change, walk back to the car, buckle up then move down through the barriers. Some people used to get upset, no idea why, they should of had windows LHD biggrin

I did used to carry one of those Litter arm extenders in the car, you could use those to get a ticket from a parking barrier machine smile

fatboy18

Original Poster:

18,947 posts

211 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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Regiment said:
fatboy18 said:
Great Car, but sadly the UK Sports car owner only seems to like RHD! Time and time again I get this when people ask me about my car. Funny how they go to Europe and seem to cope with their RHD car!

I like being different and have had a couple of Yanks in the UK and NEVER have had the perceived Problems Right Hand Drive owners think you will encounter.

Price at the moment will make sales hard, but hopefully the Brexit thing will smooth over and the pound will fair better with the US Dollar. What is good is that Unlike Dodge, Corvette will back up warrantee work in Europe.
I was looking at a 5th gen Camaro and was put off by the LHD of it for 2 reasons, first being overtaking on a busy A road where I'd presume I'd need to stick the car quite far out to see if it's safe, second was getting in and out of the work car park and the multi stories, etc. I'd need a designated passenger.

It is sad that there isn't a RHD version of the Camaro and Corvette, it'd encourage more people to buy them as they're so much nicer to look at than a BMW M car or a Porsche,
I would not dare park a new camaro in a UK multi story, Its a Big car and you would have trouble opening the doors in UK sized plot markings frown

Twoshoe

854 posts

184 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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tim milne said:


I thought the yellow stripes down the side of the car were an interesting swooping extension of the two yellow stripes on the wing, but no, it's just the reflection from the centre-lines on the road.

Over here, would these deter parking tickets?
I think you were right first time actually! The stripes on the bit of wing immediately above the wheel arch don't correspond to a reflection of the road; also, you can just see a bit of the corresponding stripes on the other wing, and they're certainly not a reflection.

jamespink

1,218 posts

204 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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Twoshoe said:
tim milne said:


I thought the yellow stripes down the side of the car were an interesting swooping extension of the two yellow stripes on the wing, but no, it's just the reflection from the centre-lines on the road.

Over here, would these deter parking tickets?
I think you were right first time actually! The stripes on the bit of wing immediately above the wheel arch don't correspond to a reflection of the road; also, you can just see a bit of the corresponding stripes on the other wing, and they're certainly not a reflection.
This is how wars start...

macky17

2,212 posts

189 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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Twoshoe said:
tim milne said:


I thought the yellow stripes down the side of the car were an interesting swooping extension of the two yellow stripes on the wing, but no, it's just the reflection from the centre-lines on the road.

Over here, would these deter parking tickets?
I think you were right first time actually! The stripes on the bit of wing immediately above the wheel arch don't correspond to a reflection of the road; also, you can just see a bit of the corresponding stripes on the other wing, and they're certainly not a reflection.
Read the guy's post again...

Twoshoe

854 posts

184 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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macky17 said:
Read the guy's post again...
Ah, ok, I'll get my coat etc...

MustardCutter

238 posts

120 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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"With Ford showing the way with the right-hand drive Mustang let's hope that Chevrolet has the sense to follow. Oh, and not to try and stick Vauxhall badges on the finished car if it makes it over here."

A vauxhall badge wouldn't put me off buying a vette if it came across the pond in RHD for Cayman money. It's still gonna have a massive V8 and look like a vette. Has any version of a vette looked anything other than stunning? That's if I could afford Cayman money of course...

fatboy18

Original Poster:

18,947 posts

211 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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The C4 Corvette was not the best by a long shot styling wise, the interior dash with the wood effect was just horrid but the Engine was Good, Places like Corvette central did do some body kits for them which were an improvement but they do look a little dated now.


Sorry Brett, if you are reading this wink

irocfan

40,434 posts

190 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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fatboy18 said:
The C4 Corvette was not the best by a long shot styling wise, the interior dash with the wood effect was just horrid but the Engine was Good, Places like Corvette central did do some body kits for them which were an improvement but they do look a little dated now.


Sorry Brett, if you are reading this wink
to be fair the 'wood' interior for the C4 wasn't standard wink

chilled901

395 posts

177 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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So it's a car that's faster than every single type of F-Type and most 911 for significantly less price and upkeep cost. Color me sold!

fatboy18

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18,947 posts

211 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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chilled901 said:
So it's a car that's faster than every single type of F-Type and most 911 for significantly less price and upkeep cost. Color me sold!
Yes, but people still love their brand names like Porsche and Jaguar so they are very unlikely to move over to this.

rottie102

3,996 posts

184 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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fatboy18 said:
I would not dare park a new camaro in a UK multi story, Its a Big car and you would have trouble opening the doors in UK sized plot markings frown
And nobody ever parks Q7s, FFRR, vans etc in multi story car parks in the UK?

fatboy18

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18,947 posts

211 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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rottie102 said:
fatboy18 said:
I would not dare park a new camaro in a UK multi story, Its a Big car and you would have trouble opening the doors in UK sized plot markings frown
And nobody ever parks Q7s, FFRR, vans etc in multi story car parks in the UK?
Door length would make it very hard to get in and out. And if you read my post correctly it said "I would not dare park a new camaro in a UK multi story"

You can do what you like tongue out

Debaser

5,843 posts

261 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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chilled901 said:
So it's a car that's faster than every single type of F-Type and most 911 for significantly less price and upkeep cost. Color me sold!
It's slower than the fastest F Type. (Doesn't stop it being a great car though!)

dzernski

123 posts

94 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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The most traumatic incident I've had in my camaro was trying to negotiate a small multistory in warwick. Eventually I got out, found a supermarket, bought some port and left it there. The steering wheel isn't the issue - the width is. Does encourage the use of park and rides though which partially offsets the emissions....