RE: Vauxhall Astra Coupe 888: Catch It While You Can

RE: Vauxhall Astra Coupe 888: Catch It While You Can

Wednesday 15th March 2017

Vauxhall Astra Coupe 888: Catch It While You Can

Peugeot's buying Vauxhall - so will we ever see an Astra like this one again?



In the automotive industry, surprises are few and far between. So continuous (and often intentional) is the flow of leaks that spew forth that official announcements are more usually a confirmation these days, rather than a revelation.

But it's safe to say we all got probably the surprise of the year when news broke a few weeks back that GM was considering selling Opel and Vauxhall to Peugeot.


Does the news mean the end of the Vauxhall brand? Hopefully not. For one thing, there's the hundreds of thousands of livelihoods that depend on it in the UK. But for another, Vauxhall's come out with some pretty neat stuff in times past. And we'd like to see that continue.

"Come off it," we can hear you saying. "Vauxhall makes dreary repmobiles that it sells to fleets at a whacking great discount." Well, yes, it does. But then it also brought us the Monaro and the VX220, both cars that are ripe for the plucking now values have fallen.

But even more intriguing is this: the Astra Coupe 888. It was born of a collaboration between Vauxhall and the Triple Eight racing team, which at the time of the Coupe 888's conception ran Vauxhall's BTCC entry. It was built to commemorate Vauxhall's overall victory in the 2001 championship, and designed to be about as hardcore - and on reflection, as PHey - as any Vauxhall ever before it.


It was based on the Astra Coupé Turbo, itself something of an unsung hero; beneath its handsome, Bertone-styled body sat a 192hp 2.0-litre turbo, the very same used in the Mk4 Astra GSI, giving it enough punch for 0-60mph in 7.5sec. The downside was its handling, which was as you might expect from a late 1990s Vauxhall with a pokey turbo engine and front-wheel drive. Let's be kind, and call it a trifle unruly.

The 888, however, changed all that. The basic engine stayed much the same, admittedly, though tuning the Z20LET engine is pretty easy, so there are plenty of tuners out there who'll give you more go if that's what you want. But you did get Eibach springs and dampers and 17in OZ Racing alloy wheels, with wider tyres than the standard car.

It wasn't so much the hardware that made the difference as what was done with it, though. Triple Eight Engineering spent plenty of time fettling the Coupé 888 at Millbrook Proving Ground, quickening the steering and setting the suspension up with handling as a priority. This was, let's not forget, a bona fide race team - and they were given carte blanche to make the Coupe 888 as racy as they liked.


The result feels like a touring car for the road from the get-go, with Alcantara featuring throughout the interior (not to mention splashes of the Europa Blue paintwork) and a bone-shaking ride. But the payoff was that the 888 stayed relentlessly flat through corners, and combined with the extra grip of those tyres, that meant cornering speeds were considerably higher than the standard car.

Only 100 were built, which makes the Coupé 888 a rare thing today, and difficult to price. The only one in the classifieds looks good, but it's on for strong money. That said, an example with just 7558 miles on the clock went under the hammer in February with a guide price of £15,000-£18,000 - though it failed to sell.

In short, the experts reckon these things are going to be worth big money soon, if they aren't already. Yet examples for sale by enthusiast private sellers with average mileages can still be had - very occasionally, because they don't come up often - for below £10,000. If you can find one, pounce on it - it's one takeover bid that's sure to pay dividends later on.

 

 

[BTCC photo: LAT Photo]

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CraigyMc

Original Poster:

16,405 posts

236 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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"Come off it," we can hear you saying. "Vauxhall makes dreary repmobiles that it sells to fleets at a whacking great discount." Well, yes, it does. But then it also brought us the Monaro and the VX220, both cars that are ripe for the plucking now values have fallen.

The VX220 is a Lotus. The Monaro is a Holden.
Neither would have been lost had Vauxhall never existed in the first place.

ianwayne

6,292 posts

268 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Strong money is right, even over the top considering the admittance in the description that it has areas of rust on it -

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/v...

Also, considering it sold for just over £6k at the last Anglia Classic car Auction in Jan - http://www.angliacarauctions.co.uk/en/classic-auct...

I was there and thought it was a bit high at that price considering its condition!

We all know people buy and sell cars to make a living, but going for 100% mark up?

As for value in the future who knows. There are such mental prices now paid for basic Fords such as Escorts and Capris (let alone the rarer models), it may happen. There's an MG Metro frown on ebay at the moment with 17k miles up past £8k.

J4CKO

41,557 posts

200 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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ianwayne said:
Strong money is right, even over the top considering the admittance in the description that it has areas of rust on it -

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/v...

Also, considering it sold for just over £6k at the last Anglia Classic car Auction in Jan - http://www.angliacarauctions.co.uk/en/classic-auct...

I was there and thought it was a bit high at that price considering its condition!

We all know people buy and sell cars to make a living, but going for 100% mark up?

As for value in the future who knows. There are such mental prices now paid for basic Fords such as Escorts and Capris (let alone the rarer models), it may happen. There's an MG Metro frown on ebay at the moment with 17k miles up past £8k.
8k for a Metro, sounds mad but they were fun little cars and it isnt much money nowadays, anything that has survived with low miles in good condition is worth something, if a Porsche 911 is worth 250 grand, surely there is room for other stuff, might not sell for that anyway, prices do seem to be somewhat speculative, hence why so much stuff sits around for months if not years.

These were good, a mate had one with 300 bhp, remember 4 of us in it blasting up Chester road in old Trafford in it, it felt super rapid.

These are in that transition from fast old, moderately interesting special edition banger to rare classic, they arent there yet at the 12 grand area, you would have to be super keen, keep an eye on Gumtree and one will pop up for 4 or less.

IanJ9375

1,468 posts

216 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Most "PHey"

Hmm - I'd suggest the Lotus Carlton, Chevette HSR, Nova Sport and even stuff like the ST200 Supertouring would have stong words about that.



ST200 - http://www.detailingworld.com/forum/showthread.php...

Craikeybaby

10,411 posts

225 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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My maths teacher had one of these. He gained a lot of credibility with the teenage boys when it turned up in the school car park.

angelicupstarts

257 posts

131 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Craikeybaby said:
My maths teacher had one of these. He gained a lot of credibility with the teenage boys when it turned up in the school car park.


Edited by angelicupstarts on Wednesday 15th March 10:07

Scooby P1

2,617 posts

229 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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There are limited editions that have now become valuable classics because they were great looking and good cars.
This was a proper "driven straight into Halfords edition" that looked dodgy back then and has then aged very badly from a terrible start.


Alex_225

6,261 posts

201 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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I have no issue with Vauxhall as a brand, as mentioned they made the VX220, Monaro and even some of the VXR models are PH worthy motors!

This one though, to me at least is less appealing. Mainly because it looks like someone has built it at home on a tight budget. I think it's a car that you have to be a real Vauxhall die hard to appreciate and I can admire fans of that nature but it's a no from me.

clonmult

10,529 posts

209 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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angelicupstarts said:
Craikeybaby said:
My maths teacher had one of these. He gained a lot of credibility with the teenage boys when it turned up in the school car park.


Edited by angelicupstarts on Wednesday 15th March 10:07
We had a physics teacher who drove around in an MR2 in the late 80s; whilst he was generally viewed as kinda cool, our applied maths teacher who was a blonde version of that woman was WAY better on every possible way (ahhh, Miss Tate, you were awesome).

Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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The cooking version of the Astra of that vintage had wooden steering and brake feel so I hope they did something better with this.

I always thought the real 888 was the mad diesel version though from memory, let me check

Ah yes

http://www.pistonheads.com/regulars/ph-spottedykyw...

That model of the Astra was a far better base, steering wise, and I think I would prefer that as a q car than the rather in your face option of the older one ==>

"There was another 40hp (now 200hp), bespoke springs and dampers, the VXR bodykit, 335mm front discs with four-pot calipers and those gorgeous Team Dynamics wheels. There was 300lb ft too, enough for 0-60mph in 6.8 seconds and 145mph"




Vyse

1,224 posts

124 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Is this like the ultimate chav chariot?

ilovequo

775 posts

181 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Looks like absolute tat...

MrGeoff

650 posts

172 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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That interior is very early 00's max power, it'll age like the horrible interiors plastered with velour from the 70s.

Dave Hedgehog

14,550 posts

204 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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ilovequo said:
Looks like absolute tat...
i take it you have not seen the new CTR yet then biggrin

daltonr

60 posts

218 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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"The result ... from the get-go". Get-goo? What a horrible expression (unless you are 14 or from California, obviously).

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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daltonr said:
"The result ... from the get-go". Get-goo? What a horrible expression (unless you are 14 or from California, obviously).

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Not one single job depends on whether the Vauxhall brand continues, or whether it's replaced by the same brand as is used everywhere else. Actually, that may not be true. One person's sole job may be to swap the logo on marketing material at the same time as somebody else makes it market-specific in other ways...

Some jobs - not "hundreds of thousands" - may depend on whether or not PSA pull Opel (whichever badge) out of the UK completely, but that's massively unlikely. There's about 3,000 people employed between Ellesmere Port and Luton, and 330 dealers nationally. I wonder how many people the average dealer employs... Plus, of course, if Opel did pull out of the UK, many of those dealers are multi-franchise sites, would re-franchise, or would simply become independents. Component manufacture may or may not depend on the location of the assembly plants - parts are already moved internationally.

ChrisDT

1,863 posts

190 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Don't forget the 1 off 888 Van they did.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
Not one single job depends on whether the Vauxhall brand continues, or whether it's replaced by the same brand as is used everywhere else. Actually, that may not be true. One person's sole job may be to swap the logo on marketing material at the same time as somebody else makes it market-specific in other ways...

Some jobs - not "hundreds of thousands" - may depend on whether or not PSA pull Opel (whichever badge) out of the UK completely, but that's massively unlikely. There's about 3,000 people employed between Ellesmere Port and Luton, and 330 dealers nationally. I wonder how many people the average dealer employs... Plus, of course, if Opel did pull out of the UK, many of those dealers are multi-franchise sites, would re-franchise, or would simply become independents. Component manufacture may or may not depend on the location of the assembly plants - parts are already moved internationally.
I think I speak for everyone when I say that it's now boring reading your protests about the names 'Opel' and 'Vauxhall'.

You are fully aware that they are exactly the same cars with different names used for different territories - so what is wrong with the author of this article using the name 'Vauxhall' as a description as the name which is more familiar to him and his audience and ultimately describes the same company?

ferrariF50lover

1,834 posts

226 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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I had a mate with one of these. For what they were when they were about, they were pretty good things. Rapid enough, reasonably good fun to drive swiftly (if not genuinely quickly) and useful if attracting attention is your thing.
I wonder if he's still got it?