RE: Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG Estate: Spotted
Thursday 20th April 2017
Remember when optional sixth and seventh seats in the boot were fairly common? Children would often be seen facing rearwards in the back of the family estate, seemingly content with not having to interact with the others all that much. Well, unless you count following motorists...
With the advent of clever folding seats, the temporary rear bench is seen less frequently. However, it could still be seen as having a few advantages. Many seven-seat MPVs or crossovers don't have all that much boot space even with the third row folded down, let alone with all seven seats raised. Place a couple of occasional pews in a massive estate though and the cargo area is not impacted on as severely. As more and more cars cater for rear passengers better than ever, to have a couple of seats that are worse than the rest could work well as punishment. Misbehave on the trip to Legoland and it's in the boot with you on the way home! Moreover, it offers the opportunity to take grown up friends out and relive childhoods spent in a Montego Countryman.
This generation of E63 is very rare too, having only been available for a couple of years after the old supercharged E55 and before the W211 generation of E-Class ended production. It actually had less torque than its predecessor (465lb ft against 516), but countered with more power and the new seven-speed transmission. It's easy to see, in fact, how the torquier supercharged car could suit those after a fast estate, particularly with its greater tuning potential. That being said the facelifted E-Class is believed to be much more reliable, and AMG bills aren't exactly going to be cheap...
Is £29K a lot? Perhaps it looks that way initially, but an M5 Touring is £25K with another 30,000 miles, and this RS6 is £30,000 with the lowest mileage of the three. The joy of choosing between them is that each boasts a USP - the BMW has that engine and the Audi is the fastest - without a duff car amongst them.
Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG Estate: Spotted
500hp, seven seats and less than £30K - perfect PH family bus!
But as you may have noticed, this is not a Montego Countryman - it's an E63 AMG. Better still it's one with the 514hp, 6.2-litre M156 V8. That glorious, ginormous lump that has beguiled damn near everyone who has experienced it, whether that be in an E63, C63 or tweaked to M159 spec in an SLS. It's still being used in the AMG GT3 in fact, so it must be alright.
This particular car looks fantastic for one approaching its 10th birthday, the mileage low and the condition seemingly pristine. The spec is appealing and there are some useful options beyond the seven seats. It's probably due a service but other than that it looks ready for whatever adventures you have planned with six others.
The Mercedes has to hold special appeal here though for the seven seats. While some seven-seaters are eventually made faster, this is a genuine performance car hero that optionally has additional practicality. And that has to be a better way around of doing it, doesn't it? Go on, your family and friends will love you for it; just don't forget to ask for fuel contributions.
MERCEDES E63 AMG ESTATE
Engine: 6,208cc, V8
Transmission: 7G-Tronic automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 514@6,800rpm
Torque (lb ft): 465@5,200rpm
MPG: N/A
CO2: 341g/km
Recorded mileage: 46,000 miles
Year registered: 2008
Price new: N/A
Price now: £28,595
See the original advert here
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Discussion
Lovely idea, but I'm not sure I'd put my daughter in what is effectively the car's crumple zone... Have MB found a way to address that concern in any way, or is it tough luck on the kids if something rear ends your vehicle?
From a man who survived a childhood sliding around the load bay of his dad's Transit on an unattached small sofa...
From a man who survived a childhood sliding around the load bay of his dad's Transit on an unattached small sofa...
blearyeyedboy said:
Lovely idea, but I'm not sure I'd put my daughter in what is effectively the car's crumple zone... Have MB found a way to address that concern in any way, or is it tough luck on the kids if something rear ends your vehicle?
I've seen a few Zafiras that have been rear ended on the M23/M25, and there is no way I would put anyone I remotely cared about in the rearmost seats of one of those. Putting them in the crumple zone of a Merc/Audi/BMW? Equally 'no way'.More directly related to this car... it highlights how far Merc interiors (dashboards & seats) have come in the last few years.
As nice as it is nearly 30k is laughable. You could get into a W212 E63 wagon for that.
I sold my w211 e63 saloon which had 45,000 miles for 15k a month or so ago. It has been up for sale for over a month with very little interest.
Have a look on AT and see how long they take to sell, that one will be around a LONG time at that price.
I sold my w211 e63 saloon which had 45,000 miles for 15k a month or so ago. It has been up for sale for over a month with very little interest.
Have a look on AT and see how long they take to sell, that one will be around a LONG time at that price.
Was looking at these and 55's, 29 grand is way, way too much even if it is really nice and even give the low miles. I would venture its an 18 grand car, even then, you have to be keen, just because its low mileage doesnt make it worth ten grand more, whoever had it should have used it more ! it is still knocking on a bit.
The later Biturbo E 63 and CLS 63 are available at that money, also, from when I was looking, these just dont move, buy that at that money and then change your mind I reckon you would need to take a 10 grand hit to move it on, dont get me wrong its a lovely thing, but its a 2002 bodystyle and looks not unlike a £2000 E200D. most of the ones I was looking at on Ebay and AT seen to still be these wearing their very optimistic price tags
These can suffer with head bolt problems which is very expensive, the airmatic suspension can give issues but its not that ruinous these days, otherwise its £500 VED, tyres and sub 20 mpg that are the big costs, oh and the front brakes can be pretty spendy ont he 63, think they have separate bell/braking surface and are like £1200 a pair, the 55 models just have big, standard disks that arent very pricey.
I tried to sell my CLS 5.5 500, I know its not an AMG but its the same year and diodnt get much interest at 7 grand, these are better but four or more times better ?
The later Biturbo E 63 and CLS 63 are available at that money, also, from when I was looking, these just dont move, buy that at that money and then change your mind I reckon you would need to take a 10 grand hit to move it on, dont get me wrong its a lovely thing, but its a 2002 bodystyle and looks not unlike a £2000 E200D. most of the ones I was looking at on Ebay and AT seen to still be these wearing their very optimistic price tags
These can suffer with head bolt problems which is very expensive, the airmatic suspension can give issues but its not that ruinous these days, otherwise its £500 VED, tyres and sub 20 mpg that are the big costs, oh and the front brakes can be pretty spendy ont he 63, think they have separate bell/braking surface and are like £1200 a pair, the 55 models just have big, standard disks that arent very pricey.
I tried to sell my CLS 5.5 500, I know its not an AMG but its the same year and diodnt get much interest at 7 grand, these are better but four or more times better ?
Edited by J4CKO on Thursday 20th April 13:58
As said, overpriced, especially when compared to the more recent one here
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...
blearyeyedboy said:
Lovely idea, but I'm not sure I'd put my daughter in what is effectively the car's crumple zone... Have MB found a way to address that concern in any way, or is it tough luck on the kids if something rear ends your vehicle?
From a man who survived a childhood sliding around the load bay of his dad's Transit on an unattached small sofa...
Interesting question - well it is to me anyway. From a man who survived a childhood sliding around the load bay of his dad's Transit on an unattached small sofa...
IMHO MB lead the way for 7 seats with the GLS (and I'm a BMW fan). Key thing for me is that the third row is NOT behind the rear axle, but rather over it, as I understand that the crumple zone generally stops at that point. And there's decent legroom for the third row as well, meaning space to be pushed forward into in the event of a rear end.
It is of course, a vast SUV, and over 3 times the price of the E55 above, but on the upside, there is at least an AMG version with silly horsepower. And it's a lot more appealing than a VW Caravelle.
Hit the nail on the head with the head bolt issue...
J4CKO said:
Was looking at these and 55's, 29 grand is way, way too much even if it is really nice and even give the low miles. I would venture its an 18 grand car, even then, you have to be keen, just because its low mileage doesnt make it worth ten grand more, whoever had it should have used it more ! it is still knocking on a bit.
The later Biturbo E 63 and CLS 63 are available at that money, also, from when I was looking, these just dont move, buy that at that money and then change your mind I reckon you would need to take a 10 grand hit to move it on, dont get me wrong its a lovely thing, but its a 2002 bodystyle and looks not unlike a £2000 E200D. most of the ones I was looking at on Ebay and AT seen to still be these wearing their very optimistic price tags
These can suffer with head bolt problems which is very expensive, the airmatic suspension can give issues but its not that ruinous these days, otherwise its £500 VED, tyres and sub 20 mpg that are the big costs, oh and the front brakes can be pretty spendy ont he 63, think they have separate bell/braking surface and are like £1200 a pair, the 55 models just have big, standard disks that arent very pricey.
I tried to sell my CLS 5.5 500, I know its not an AMG but its the same year and diodnt get much interest at 7 grand, these are better but four or more times better ?
The later Biturbo E 63 and CLS 63 are available at that money, also, from when I was looking, these just dont move, buy that at that money and then change your mind I reckon you would need to take a 10 grand hit to move it on, dont get me wrong its a lovely thing, but its a 2002 bodystyle and looks not unlike a £2000 E200D. most of the ones I was looking at on Ebay and AT seen to still be these wearing their very optimistic price tags
These can suffer with head bolt problems which is very expensive, the airmatic suspension can give issues but its not that ruinous these days, otherwise its £500 VED, tyres and sub 20 mpg that are the big costs, oh and the front brakes can be pretty spendy ont he 63, think they have separate bell/braking surface and are like £1200 a pair, the 55 models just have big, standard disks that arent very pricey.
I tried to sell my CLS 5.5 500, I know its not an AMG but its the same year and diodnt get much interest at 7 grand, these are better but four or more times better ?
Edited by J4CKO on Thursday 20th April 13:58
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