RE: New Civic Type R pricing
Monday 8th May 2017
Still getting your head around there being an all-new Civic Type R when the FK2 predecessor still seems fresh? Us too. Time marches on though and Honda has confirmed the new Type R will start from £30,995 for the base version, rising to £32,995 for the GT following a similar range progression to the last car.
These are relatively modest rises over the FK2, that coming in at £29,995 at launch and our GT-spec long-termer costing £32,395 before options. Opting for that top spec car basically adds to the gadgets and gizmos too, including blind spot monitoring, Garmin-based Connect navigation and upgraded stereo and LED front foglights. Whichever spec you go for the heart of it is the same 320hp turbocharged engine, manual-only transmission, three-mode driver settings (Comfort now included) and more sophisticated multi-link rear axle. Mad looks and 7min 43sec 'ring lap bragging rights are standard across all cars, naturally.
New Civic Type R pricing
Looks bonkers, promises to go like stink and yours from £30,995
How does that compare to the rivals then? A Focus RS starts at £32,265, the revised Golf R we drove recently £32,540 in equivalent five-door manual form and the SEAT Leon Cupra 300 (ditto) from £30,140. Fancy something (slightly) less wacky but still fast and Japanese? The old school choice would remain the Subaru WRX STI from £31,995 while at the other end of the spectrum a five-door BMW M140i starts at £33,180.
No shortage of choice for your £30K-odd fast car budget it'd seem but there will doubtless be a degree of 'how much?' outrage that this now seems the entry point for a proper hot hatch. The counter argument is just look at how fast and capable these things are now and the range of options you can choose from, be that front-, rear- or all-wheel drive, three- or five-door and any which way of transmission you happen to favour.
Discussion
great_kahn said:
I would be pretty mad if I was a current gen type r owner, getting a type r model replaced so quick is going to play havoc with the residuals.
As a current Type R FK2 owner I am not concerned with the residuals. I paid 25K cash for my 2016 car with 5000 miles and £1k of extras plus the 5 year service package included.The FK2 came late to the market with production of around 9000 cars worldwide (it was not sold in the USA) including about 2500 cars for the uk
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The new Type R FK8 has been launched worldwide from almost day one of production. The American market being one of the first to receive the car. The new Civic is a larger car with some features I do not particularly like, the electronic handbrake being one! The Nurburgring figures are irrelevant, in the real world, most drivers would not accomplish the quoted figures and there are so many variables that I am not concerned. All I know is that my car is fast enough and puts a smile on my face.
I also believe that the USA is getting the same engine as my FK2, 306hp and not the UK 316hp, due to emissions?
The FK8 is a worldwide sales car whereas the FK2 Type R was not. Making the earlier car more likely to be sought after in the future due to it being a rare beast. How many FK2 Type R's do you see on the road? I think that the market will eventually be swamped with the FK8 just like the VW offerings................No I am not worried about the residuals on the FK2.
Tuvra said:
Every time I see a new Civic I think "That car actually offends my eyes", I hope to god the CTR looks better.
Hi Tuvra, We meet at last!You are the guy that said anyone over 50 looked a bit of a TIT in this car........................I am 67 and loving it.
Try one, you may be surprised, I just hope that when you reach my age you are still able to enjoy life as much as i do!
Just remember the looks are subjective, some like, some do not, but when you are sitting behind the wheel with a big grin on your face, it does not matter. sorry that it offends your eyes, get an eye test?
Bob the Cop said:
. I paid 25K cash for my 2016 car with 5000 miles and £1k of extras plus the 5 year service package included..No I am not worried about the residuals on the FK2.
I think the fact you paid £25k for a 5000 mile example tells the whole story on the residuals already....Saw one on the A14 yesterday: certainly striking and, as it was being driven at c50mph in the slow lane, I had that "good grief, what the heck is that?" moment as I saw it in the distance. The TV screen-sized "vents" in the rear bumper certainly stand out.
To my eyes - overstyled, but I can certainly see the appeal.
To my eyes - overstyled, but I can certainly see the appeal.
IanJ9375 said:
I think the fact you paid £25k for a 5000 mile example tells the whole story on the residuals already....
I agree, someone else took the £8K hit. I would not have paid £33K for the new car and would not pay the same for the FK8.But then again there are few new cars that won't depreciate the minute they leave the showroom.
It only matters if you want to change the car every year or two, I usually keep my cars for ten years. only time will tell if I made a mistake.
Bob the Cop said:
As a current Type R FK2 owner I am not concerned with the residuals. I paid 25K cash for my 2016 car with 5000 miles and £1k of extras plus the 5 year service package included.
The FK2 came late to the market with production of around 9000 cars worldwide (it was not sold in the USA) including about 2500 cars for the uk
.
The new Type R FK8 has been launched worldwide from almost day one of production. The American market being one of the first to receive the car. The new Civic is a larger car with some features I do not particularly like, the electronic handbrake being one! The Nurburgring figures are irrelevant, in the real world, most drivers would not accomplish the quoted figures and there are so many variables that I am not concerned. All I know is that my car is fast enough and puts a smile on my face.
I also believe that the USA is getting the same engine as my FK2, 306hp and not the UK 316hp, due to emissions?
The FK8 is a worldwide sales car whereas the FK2 Type R was not. Making the earlier car more likely to be sought after in the future due to it being a rare beast. How many FK2 Type R's do you see on the road? I think that the market will eventually be swamped with the FK8 just like the VW offerings................No I am not worried about the residuals on the FK2.
Think you're very much in the minority keeping a new car so long, think many current FK2 owners are in for a shock after 3 years.The FK2 came late to the market with production of around 9000 cars worldwide (it was not sold in the USA) including about 2500 cars for the uk
.
The new Type R FK8 has been launched worldwide from almost day one of production. The American market being one of the first to receive the car. The new Civic is a larger car with some features I do not particularly like, the electronic handbrake being one! The Nurburgring figures are irrelevant, in the real world, most drivers would not accomplish the quoted figures and there are so many variables that I am not concerned. All I know is that my car is fast enough and puts a smile on my face.
I also believe that the USA is getting the same engine as my FK2, 306hp and not the UK 316hp, due to emissions?
The FK8 is a worldwide sales car whereas the FK2 Type R was not. Making the earlier car more likely to be sought after in the future due to it being a rare beast. How many FK2 Type R's do you see on the road? I think that the market will eventually be swamped with the FK8 just like the VW offerings................No I am not worried about the residuals on the FK2.
great_kahn said:
Think you're very much in the minority keeping a new car so long, think many current FK2 owners are in for a shock after 3 years.
Yes, I think that I am in the minority as far as any new car goes, let alone the FK2.I am concerned about the whole PCP system. It is all very well driving the latest state of the art car for £300 per month, but under the PCP system you could be paying it for life and never have anything to show for it.
I have trouble finding out what a car advertised in a newspaper actually costs. Plenty of PCP type purchase options at x pounds per month, but how much is it? We have become a have now, pay later society, history shows that this is not necessarily the best way to go.
Still if that is what you want and can live with it...............go for it and enjoy yourself. But PCP is not for me.
Getting back on track. I like the fact that Honda have produced a car that delivers this kind of performance. It helps to get the competition from VW, Audi, Renault, Ford etc. fired up to producing the next best thing and advancing technology. We will always debate which is best and which is fastest, you pay your money and make your choice. However, the style of a car is a whole new topic.
great_kahn said:
I would be pretty mad if I was a current gen type r owner, getting a type r model replaced so quick is going to play havoc with the residuals.
True! Apart from the fact that I'd imagine with so many people leasing the value is irrelevant to those who have signed up to a 36/48 month plan with a GFV backed by the dealer. Give it back and move on to the next one. Hopefully the value will mean great second hand bargains though
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