RE: Ford GT: Review

Saturday 13th May 2017

Ford GT: Review

So can the GT live up to the hype, the heritage, and the price? Oh yeah...



How cynical are you? I ask because it might affect how you feel about the Ford GT, created solely to win its class at Le Mans, in a GTE category that's in pretty fine health at the minute.

The racing is close, the grids are large and the cars, crucially, look like ones you can walk into a dealership and buy: Ferraris, Aston Martins, Corvettes, Porsches, that sort of thing.

Alongside them now, though, there's the Ford GT as well. And doesn't it look every bit like the racing car it was created as?

It's here!
It's here!
It acts like one as well, winning the GTE-Pro class at Le Mans last year, 50 years after the Ford GT40 took a one-two-three victory there. Which is entirely in keeping with the rules, because Ford is building roadgoing examples of the GT - this is one, obvs - but, well, I dunno. If I was turning a road car into a racing car, which is sort of the idea behind GTE, I might be a bit miffed if somebody had turned up with what was a racing car first, road car second.

Still, what's Ford to do? It wants to be back at Le Mans, yet if it had made a race car based on the Mustang - which was the original idea - it reckoned it would be uncompetitive. And Ford isn't about to make a £200,000 sports car that it could later take racing, because nobody would buy it.

So you can see how the logic goes. Develop GT. Race it. Sell some. And that 1966 Le Mans victory set a precedent that's still applicable today: it established Ford as perhaps the only mainstream brand that could make and sell a massively expensive, high-performance sports/super/hypercar.

How expensive is this one? It's £420,000 (or whatever $450,000 at the current exchange rate, plus VAT, works out at today), and Ford - or rather Multimatic, its Canadian partner, who helped engineer the GT and supports the race team - is going to build 1,000 roadgoing examples, at the rate of one a day. More than it strictly needs to by homologation standards, but make no mistake: this is racing car first, road car second.

Don't be deceived - it's snug in here!
Don't be deceived - it's snug in here!
Fit for purpose
Quite a lot of that is clear even before you sit in it. It has a carbon fibre tub with an integrated roll-cage built-in during production - to make it FIA compliant a few extra beams are welded into the race cars. The cabin fits two occupants but it's narrow in there - to reduce the car's frontal area - and the seats are fixed to the tub, with pedals that move via a fabric pull strap instead. Behind the narrow cabin is a narrow engine, a development of Ford's 3.5-litre Ecoboost V6, with twin-turbos.

Ford says that part of the GT programme - because it certainly isn't about making money, even with $450,000,000 in sales revenue coming in - is ensuring that advances on the race car meet its road cars. Quite often that's piffle, but when Ford started developing this V6 and racing it in IMSA, it kept blowing head gaskets and distorting heads. Changes to the race engine are now best-practice for Ford's street engine designers; 60 per cent of the GT's V6 is common with the one used in the F-150. The Raptor, granted, but still. A pick-up and a GT have largely the same donkey.

Anyway, that engine drives the rear wheels via a seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox in the road car, a six-speed sequential in the race car. Steering is hydraulic, as is some of the suspension control.

By measurements it could be a GT42...
By measurements it could be a GT42...
That's by double wishbones all round but even here you can't escape the racing overtones. Ford talks about a 'keel', a set of strong points down the centre of the car, to where the suspension is mounted. With very long wishbones and pushrods, there's space beneath the car for Ford to get funky with aerodynamics, while the suspension is itself worth more than a moment's thought.

At each corner a pushrod acts on a rocker which then acts on spring one - a short torsion bar - which in turn meets another rocker that acts on spring two - a coil spring. That's in 'normal' mode. But if you select 'track' mode, the car hydraulically drops by 50mm, giving it just a 70mm ground clearance and locking tight the coil spring, thus doubling the spring rate (the bar and coil have similar rates) and tieing the GT down yet further. The dampers - which, technically, are passive, although are Multimatic's impossibly clever spool valve 'DSSV' dampers - have three states they can be set to. Normal and comfort in high body mode, or a firmer mode when the body is dropped on the deck.

And you should see how it drops. You know how supercar nose lifts or 4x4s on air springs creep up and down? None of that here. You push a button and the GT shoots up or down like it's on air jacks.

On road? Not at its best, actually
On road? Not at its best, actually
Down to business
Anyway, you don't have all day and I don't have the entire internet to play with so enough technical detail; although I could go on about how the rear wing doesn't just change position, but actually changes its profile. Or how the engine's air is ducted in through the lower bodywork at the rear, meets the turbos, is ducted back to the sides where it passes through those intercoolers and is then fed via the buttresses to the engine. Or I could expand on how the dashboard is designed not just as a structural element but also has ventilating air passing through it. But let's move on.

The GT's fixed-base seats are comfortable, but crikey it's cramped in here. Driver and passenger are well into elbow-bashing territory; perhaps beyond Lotus Elise and into Caterham snugness. The roof is low, and because the scuttle is too, despite the GT only being 41.8 inches tall (in track mode), you don't feel like you're sitting on the deck. Some of the plastics are a bit shonky for a £420,000 car, but that's the nature of it.

The steering is reassuringly heavy - 2.5 turns lock-to-lock, too, so free from nervousness, and hydraulically assisted - and gears engage cleanly. The motor makes a straightforward sort of noise. Gruff, growly, powerful, but far from sonorous. However, I think that's alright, you know. The GT40's V8 made an amazing noise, but ultimately, it was an effective noise. The GT's is similarly honest.

Circuit is where the GT really shines, funnily enough
Circuit is where the GT really shines, funnily enough
What is breathtaking about the GT - and I didn't expect to be writing this - is the way it rides. I don't know how much of it is springing and how much is those clever dampers - a lot, I suspect - but its ride quality is astonishingly comfortable, yet controlled. If there's a sports car with a better blend of ride comfort to body control, I'm pretty confident in saying I've never driven it.

Curiously, that doesn't necessarily translate to making the GT a great driver's car on the road. It's good, make no mistake, but the steering's weight doesn't blend much road feel into the mix, while the brakes on our test car were a bit over-servoed at the top of the travel. I'm being critical here. It's enjoyable. The grip is there, and the poise, and the agility - the dry weight is 1,385kg - but on a decent road you'd get more back, more often, from something like a Porsche 911 GT3 or a McLaren 720S.

Road racer
Where the GT feels happier - and this is probably no surprise - is on a circuit. 'Pssht' that suspension into its lower setting in an instant and the body ties itself to the floor, with enough suppleness in hand to flow over kerbs. And it all makes sense. There are cars with 655hp and 550lb ft that could seem intimidating, but this isn't one of them.

You will wait for one, but it might just be worth it
You will wait for one, but it might just be worth it
The GT revs to 7,000, gives a notable kick above 5,000rpm, and such is its approachableness that you'll be inclined to use the lot, all the time (so fast is the race car, meanwhile, that its power is knocked back to under 500hp under the sport's 'balance of performance' regs). The carbon-ceramic brakes are superb, under bigger loads the steering starts to tell you things, and the balance is terrific: there's a touch of understeer if you let it, but you can easily trail-brake it out, and have a big dose of adjustability on the way out. The balance, and the poise, are sensational.

Race-derived car is good on track, then. Which is about as surprising as finding out that a race-derived car is good at racing. But I can quite easily ship out my cynicism about how it plays to the rules: what balls of Ford to make it, after all. Who else, beyond the traditional supercar makers, could do that? As a road- and track-going supercar it's a brilliant, flawed, compromised, wonderful, capable, fabulous thing. [Matt Prior]


FORD GT
Engine
: 3,497cc V6, twin-turbo
Transmission: 7-speed dual-clutch auto, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 656@6,250rpm
Torque (lb ft): 550@5,900rpm
0-60mph:  2.8sec
Top speed: 216mph
Weight: 1,385kg (dry)
MPG: 14 (est)
CO2: tbc g/km
Price: £420,000 including VAT, before options

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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jayemm89

Original Poster:

4,025 posts

130 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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This review seems to tally with many others - great track car but not a brilliant road car. Personally I get enough people making snide remarks about the fairly ordinary 3.5L V6 in my Evora, I personally think putting the EcoBoost V6 in this car was a mistake but I am sure there are plenty of reasons. I've heard many such as a V8 wouldn't fit, or would be too thirsty. I suspect Ford also want to sell pickups by saying "its got the GT engine in it" rather than the Other way around.

Only one thing to note, the original GT40 was a pure race car. It was made with zero concessions for the road. They did make a road going version, the Mk3, but it was a total failure.

I do love the bold design of the thing, but I suspect very few owners are ever going to use them properly because I'm not sure there is even any storage in it? Kinda knackers you for a weekend away - something you can easily do in a Ferrari/McLaren/Lambo

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

172 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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Good writeup. pretty much my dream car there. Perfect.

MDMA .

8,884 posts

101 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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Hope the panel gaps are better than what they are on the new Mustang at that price smile

MikeT66

2,680 posts

124 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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jayemm89 said:
This review seems to tally with many others - great track car but not a brilliant road car. Personally I get enough people making snide remarks about the fairly ordinary 3.5L V6 in my Evora, I personally think putting the EcoBoost V6 in this car was a mistake but I am sure there are plenty of reasons. I've heard many such as a V8 wouldn't fit, or would be too thirsty. I suspect Ford also want to sell pickups by saying "its got the GT engine in it" rather than the Other way around.

Only one thing to note, the original GT40 was a pure race car. It was made with zero concessions for the road. They did make a road going version, the Mk3, but it was a total failure.

I do love the bold design of the thing, but I suspect very few owners are ever going to use them properly because I'm not sure there is even any storage in it? Kinda knackers you for a weekend away - something you can easily do in a Ferrari/McLaren/Lambo
There is a small storage space, as shown in second photo. I’d have one of these over a Ferrari/Lambo/McLaren any day. Perfect.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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I wonder how many will pass on their allocation given the final price. It was considered a 300k car. Now it's 420k.

rare6499

655 posts

139 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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Awesome car. I'm not surprised they are essentially sold out, even at that price.

Big GT

1,807 posts

92 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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Lovely car but that rear end.....





MikeGalos

261 posts

284 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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jayemm89 said:
Only one thing to note, the original GT40 was a pure race car. It was made with zero concessions for the road. They did make a road going version, the Mk3, but it was a total failure.
Hardly. A friend of mine loves his aside from people thinking it's a kit car rather than one of the great supercars of all time. Seriously, this is like saying the Mercedes-Benz 300SL gullwing was really a failure because it kept the racing tubular frame and that made it hard to get in and out of when shopping for groceries.

CaptainRAVE

360 posts

112 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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There are much better cars for that money.

Butter Face

30,283 posts

160 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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Burwood said:
I wonder how many will pass on their allocation given the final price. It was considered a 300k car. Now it's 420k.
Not many I'd wager. The price will surely only go up.

Also, those CF wheels are just pure car porn. cloud9

Edited by Butter Face on Friday 12th May 08:14

sege

558 posts

222 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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I love the looks, one of the best melds of classic inspiration with modern styling and function ever.
I hate that they built a purpose designed GT against the spirit of the rules without having produced or sold any, and then ran and won. Anyone with a basic knowledge of sports car racing history knows that's how to kill competition and ultimately the category/sport.
I love that apparently it handles like a real sports car but with superduperhyper car performance.
I kinda dislike that it sounds a bit like a fart in a fish tank...
Not really love/hate; more like it is a naughty car, but it sounds like it is a very, very nice one too. Not perfect, but flippin' awesome all the same.

Dr G

15,167 posts

242 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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Big GT said:
It bloody is as well! rofl

Can't get at all excited about this car; the marketing machine around it has turned it into Instagram on wheels for me frown

Vitorio

4,296 posts

143 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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CaptainRAVE said:
There are much better cars for that money.
Or equal cars for less money, the 488GTB starts at less then half, as does the Huracan and 720s



You could get a 488GTB, 911 Turbo and V8 vantage (i.e. the rest of the WEC GTE field, even if the 911 Turbo isnt a 100% match) for the price of a ford GT

Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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Lovely looking car but considering the 16mpg /150+mile range and reported large amounts of noise from everywhere in the car the GT moniker just seems wrong. It is a modern day exotic track day car.

I think the 675LT now looks good value for money too considering the price of this one.


TheDrBrian

5,444 posts

222 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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Kinda like the looks but that V6 doesn't sound that good.

tankplanker

2,479 posts

279 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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I just love the way it looks, but I can't get over the engine choice in a $420k car. It would be a different car at $200k but even at that price point most of its rivals would still have a turbo charged V8. I can't see the engine choice impacting sales but I can see it impacting the long term appeal of the car.

MDL111

6,918 posts

177 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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tankplanker said:
I just love the way it looks, but I can't get over the engine choice in a $420k car. It would be a different car at $200k but even at that price point most of its rivals would still have a turbo charged V8. I can't see the engine choice impacting sales but I can see it impacting the long term appeal of the car.
I agree regarding the engine - bit of a let down - on the other hand people are paying similar money for various RS Porsches with 6-cyl engines (4.0 RS, GT2 RS etc - ignoring vintage cars obviously)

Krikkit

26,514 posts

181 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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I've never been a fan of this car, but details have been so shy I assumed the road-going versions were a cursory nod to the racer, but looking at this, it's nothing of the sort.

What a sensationally hardcore car for its type - pedals adjustable with a webbed strap? Brilliant.

It almost seems like a modern-day Stratos to me - tiny cabin, fantastic pricing.

LotusOmega375D

7,601 posts

153 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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Does seem pricey to me. Maybe Brexit's feeble Sterling is making it look more expensive to us Brits than when it was launched? I'm not sure this one's going to be a solid long-term investment with 1000 units over 3 years, so might become more affordable later on.

As for the road-going GT40 Mk3, it was hardly a commercial success was it? More a curio of the time, but all the more desirable now for it!

MikeT66

2,680 posts

124 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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MikeGalos said:
jayemm89 said:
Only one thing to note, the original GT40 was a pure race car. It was made with zero concessions for the road. They did make a road going version, the Mk3, but it was a total failure.
Hardly. A friend of mine loves his aside from people thinking it's a kit car rather than one of the great supercars of all time. Seriously, this is like saying the Mercedes-Benz 300SL gullwing was really a failure because it kept the racing tubular frame and that made it hard to get in and out of when shopping for groceries.
+1

Sadly, it seems that cars at the moment must be all things to all men – hence the preponderance of ‘high-performance SUVs’ filling our roads and ultra high-performance hatchbacks. Like the original GT40, this car has been designed for one job – to win races, and on the back of that sell cars, even if through the halo effect. The road car, again like the GT40, is compromised by this but Ford, knowing that had to build some in order to go GT racing, went ahead anyway. Going back to the GT40 ancestor, Eric Broadly, brought in to oversee the initial GT40 project after Ford had seen his Ford-powered prototype at the 1963 24hr Le Mans, thought their idea of producing a race car was massively compromised by Ford also stating straight away that they wanted a road car, too, from the project.

As I’ve noted previously on another forum, the GT40 bent some rules in order to fulfil the motorsport requirements, BUT… many manufactures have bent the rules in pursuit of race track glory – Porsche 917, and many of the Group B rally cars. We still lust and love these cars, nonetheless. As a sportscar race fan and petrolhead, I for think this is a fabulous machine.