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RE: Ferrari 612 Scaglietti: PH Carpool

RE: Ferrari 612 Scaglietti: PH Carpool

Monday 19th June

Ferrari 612 Scaglietti: PH Carpool

Why one of the last 612s produced is proving a great first supercar for this PHer



Name: Charly Sparrow
Car: 2008 Ferrari 612 Scaglietti One to One
Owned since: June 2015
Previously owned cars: Porsche 911 C4S Targa, Maserati Quattroporte GTS, BMW M5.

Is it getting better looking with age?
Is it getting better looking with age?
Why I bought it:
"My first encounter of supercars was as a teenager growing up in north London in the 70s. On the way to the local newsagents I heard a loud noise; turning around to see what the fuss was about I noticed two of my sister's school friends, one in a De Tomaso Pantera, the other in a red Ferrari Dino. Hearing these cars buzzing around the neighbourhood left a huge impression on that 14-year-old boy, and in 2015 I took the plunge and realised a lifetime dream.

"Why a Scaglietti? I've always loved coupes and loved this car since Clarkson's review on Top Gear circa 2004: it's a practical, usable Ferrari that happens to be a ballistic missile when pushed. Early cars were not loved by the press (for the looks, handling and noise), however Ferrari addressed criticism and by 2008 the car was sorted (to a degree) with the introduction of the HSTC One to Ones."

What I wish I'd known:
"I was too trusting buying from a Ferrari main dealer - I mean, what could go wrong? 612s were made from aluminium and some have been prone to rust. Mine has a minor paint issue which I'll address at its next service. And how was I to know that tyres can crack on cars that are not used over long periods, representing an MoT failure. Four Pirelli P Zero tyres? That'll be £1,000 Mr Sparrow!

Noise also very appealing, funnily enough
Noise also very appealing, funnily enough
Things I love:
"The rarity, as only 17 RHD One to Ones were produced for the U.K. It's always an occasion driving this car; it's as subtle as driving a Ferrari can be yet instantly recognisable.

"The noise it makes leaves the hairs on the back of the neck standing. Nothing in my opinion sounds better than a Ferrari V12 at full chat, especially in a tunnel. And while some may disagree I love the timeless looks that just get better with age." 

Things I hate:
"Some of the interior materials are a joke for what was Ferrari's flagship and most expensive car, with cheap feeling plastics that can melt in extreme sunlight. The previous owner spec'd the car with leather on the dash and this has started to come away as it expands and contracts.

"The infotainment system is - how to put this - crap! The F1 gearbox is not the best in auto, so I always leave it in sport mode and use the paddles. This makes gear changing more responsive and the handling sharper as in auto mode the suspension is a little floppy."

Expensive to buy, not too bad to run though
Expensive to buy, not too bad to run though
Costs:
"Ferraris are not cheap to buy, however this does not make them overtly expensive to run. In the main 612s are very reliable cars, however be prepared for minor electrical issues. The car came with a two-year Ferrari warranty, but this is a pre-seven-year deal car that is now offered.

"I've had bad experiences with Ferrari after sales in London so I now send the car to Mario at Autoshield Manchester who I met via the Maserati Owners Club. Serving costs are reasonable, but more importantly the car comes back better than when it arrived."

Where I've been:
"I purchased the car with just under 11,000 miles, but here in the UK Ferrari prices are so mileage sensitive that I've ruled out any long distance use. Protecting future value is a key element of supercar ownership and as such the car has covered just over 4,000 miles in two years. I need to mention the Ferrari Owners Club as it's a great source of information with good structure. The FOC organise trips both home and abroad and some are proving very tempting!"

Very rare and very good too, says this PHer
Very rare and very good too, says this PHer
What next?
"No immediate plans, however all roads are leading to the F12. Before I sign off I need to correct the recent buying guide on 612 PH as no mention was made of the One to Ones. These cars were the last of the breed, and highly collectible given their photo chromatic roof, remapped gearboxes, improved suspension and carbon ceramic brakes. The Sessantas, whilst fewer in number, came with two-tone paint jobs which were not much loved and therefore less desirable in my opinion.

 


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Baddie

Original Poster:

245 posts

137 months

Monday 19th June
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I'd love a 612. Discreet, good looking and comfortable, yet ferociously fast.

Trexthedinosaur

1,030 posts

59 months

Monday 19th June
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Stunning car, really like the 612, quite sad that the owner has ruled out long distance use because of the impact on price, the 612 was built for long distance EU jaunts, 4k in two years is criminal.

I know AM are not as sensitive per mileage, but I couldn't care less about the mileage on mine, it gets used as intended.

hondansx

2,557 posts

145 months

Monday 19th June
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Nice and all, but i also picked up on the 4k mileage. If it's just a weekend car, why not get an out-and-out sports car?

Daniel1

2,683 posts

118 months

Monday 19th June
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Mileage sensitive..... just go out and enjoy the bloody thing before it literally falls apart

Henno196

84 posts

12 months

Monday 19th June
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Buys a grand tourer - scared to take it touring.

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minimatan

231 posts

121 months

Monday 19th June
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9/10 for the car, missing a 10/10 because it is a garage queen.

PhantomPH

2,242 posts

145 months

Monday 19th June
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Got to echo the statements already - 'this is a great car and I love it...so I am not going to drive it'. Seems a shame...but I do understand why that happens (and is even in the back of my mind every commuting mile I do in my car) so not going to judge too harshly. smile

TooMany2cvs

16,579 posts

46 months

Monday 19th June
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Trexthedinosaur said:
4k in two years is criminal.
What's worse is that it's above the average for this car...

11k at 7yrs, 15k at 9yrs...

Wonder what it's cost per mile?

cradock

20 posts

30 months

Monday 19th June
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Great choice of car. I'm also fortunate enough to have one (though not an OTO)... I bought mine on higher miles 33k and have had similar worries about racking up the miles... in the end I thought "to hell with it", stuck on some winter tyres, and headed down to the Alsace last xmas..., here she is at a wonderful Auberge at the top of a narrow mountain pass! Enjoy yours, and thanks for the article.


C7 JFW

840 posts

139 months

Monday 19th June
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These things make incredible driving machines.

Especially when stationary, so the value doesn't plummet.

HardtopManual

651 posts

86 months

Monday 19th June
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"Protecting future value is a key element of supercar ownership"

If it really is, you're missing the point.

Trexthedinosaur

1,030 posts

59 months

Monday 19th June
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TooMany2cvs said:
Trexthedinosaur said:
4k in two years is criminal.
What's worse is that it's above the average for this car...

11k at 7yrs, 15k at 9yrs...

Wonder what it's cost per mile?
It is such a shame! 250k new (?) if a OTO, maybe worth 110k now? (LHD OTO for sale at 99k)

So 140k for 15k miles, £9.30 per mile?


To the chap with a "high" 33k miler, that is what I like to see, the damn thing being used smile




culpz

1,739 posts

32 months

Monday 19th June
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Trexthedinosaur said:
Stunning car, really like the 612, quite sad that the owner has ruled out long distance use because of the impact on price, the 612 was built for long distance EU jaunts, 4k in two years is criminal.

I know AM are not as sensitive per mileage, but I couldn't care less about the mileage on mine, it gets used as intended.
I know if i had one i'd want to use it all the time.

Saying that though, i think it's sometimes more about keeping the experience special. There's no doubting that it can be used just like any other car, but, then again, you still don't want to become bored of it so quick by using it for mundane trips.

Just driving it for those specials blasts out can be a good way of doing this while not wacking loads of miles on it in the meantime. I'm not sure i agree but i do not own a supercar. Maybe i'd feel different if i did.

culpz

1,739 posts

32 months

Monday 19th June
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HardtopManual said:
"Protecting future value is a key element of supercar ownership"

If it really is, you're missing the point.
Every time i read a Carpool these days, i get the feeling that many aren't real car enthusiasts. It's such a shame.

I understand not wanting to put diesel-like mileage on something like this, causing the car to be worth about 20p in the end on top of the running costs, but if this is what "true super car ownership" is about, then i want no part in it.

Krikkit

10,368 posts

101 months

Monday 19th June
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Love these with the handling pack wheels, there's a lovely TdF over Crema one on the market at the moment which would be my perfect combo!



RE: Mileage woes - easy for you keyboard warriors to say "Sod it, just drive it", but maybe the OP can't afford to wipe 20k off a ridiculously sensitive market valuation by using it much more? That said, a quick scan of the cars available at the moment shows mileage all over the place with no real value trend...

seawise

1,225 posts

126 months

Monday 19th June
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please use it - never know what's around the corner - I can't help using my V12 Ferrari (3,000 miles in the first 3 months ownership...), they are too bloody good to lock away.

LotusOmega375D

3,460 posts

73 months

Monday 19th June
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Not being an arse, but what does the moniker "One to One" mean, with respect to this? And for that matter what does "Sessanta" mean, as mentioned at the bottom.

PhantomPH

2,242 posts

145 months

Monday 19th June
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LotusOmega375D said:
Not being an arse, but what does the moniker "One to One" mean, with respect to this? And for that matter what does "Sessanta" mean, as mentioned at the bottom.
It's how many miles you're allowed to do before the value drops. wink

HardtopManual

651 posts

86 months

Monday 19th June
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culpz said:
I understand not wanting to put diesel-like mileage on something like this, causing the car to be worth about 20p in the end on top of the running costs, but if this is what "true super car ownership" is about, then i want no part in it.
Exactly - it's a bit of an odd thing to say. For me, fulfilling childhood dreams, dawn raids, continental trips, driving a beautiful machine etc are key elements of supercar ownership. Protecting future value? That's a key element of an equities portfolio.

Scottie - NW

671 posts

153 months

Monday 19th June
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What an utterly stupid thing to do, buy a car that you can't afford to put miles on.