RE: Suzuki Swift Sport: PH Fleet

RE: Suzuki Swift Sport: PH Fleet

Tuesday 20th June 2017

Suzuki Swift Sport: PH Fleet

Swift goes back to Suzuki; it's being missed already



With the Swift Sport now gone, I'm afraid I owe it an apology: there was a load of other stuff that I wanted to do with the car that I simply didn't get around to doing. Sorry little Suzuki. Sadly the grown up, mundane, office-based stuff always seems to get in the way of the fun stuff.

Matt's happier than he looks here, honest
Matt's happier than he looks here, honest
I didn't take it to the Nurbugring, I didn't compare it to an Ignis Sport (or an old Swift Sport) and I didn't pitch it against some hot hatch greats. I should have, because I'm confident it would have done very well; the Swift simply doesn't have a weak link, certainly not that I discovered.

There are elements of the Swift I'm missing already, even after just 10 days without it. Silly things like how easy it was to see out of and park, but also the response and agility you get from driving around in a 1,000kg car. It was always willing to duck and dive its way around a town or a B-road, yet with sufficient refinement to make it fine elsewhere too.

Now the point of running the Swift Sport on the PH Fleet was to celebrate its status as the last naturally aspirated hot hatch on sale. And while the Suzuki's 1.6-litre M16 (and yes, it really is called that) is not perhaps a legendary hot hatch engine like the B16B in an EK9 Civic Type R or the lusty old Peugeot lumps, it performed its duties admirably well. It never quite zinged like some of the great Japanese engines, but its additional eagerness over 4,400rpm was well worth chasing and having peak power at 6,900rpm meant the Swift's performance always felt to be building (albeit in a modest fashion). This is infinitely preferable to a swell of turbo torque that makes progress feel disappointingly linear. With a nice six-speed manual gearbox too, hustling the Swift along briskly was always a pleasure.

Small car = lots of space on the road
Small car = lots of space on the road
Particular highlights over the past few months and eight thousand miles have all been on B-roads, appropriately enough. The Swift just feels so well suited to small country lanes, tiny dimensions and good visibility meaning you can make the most of everything it has. The drive back from Lotus in the white five-door car was good, but the Christmas B-road blast was certainly the best; it was one of the most fun drives I had all of last year in fact. Really.

That the Swift was such a complete and entertaining car for £14K never failed to impress. Where it struggled, and as was discussed a couple of months back, was for buyers who aren't buying the car outright straightaway. Monthly payments to lease a Swift Sport were higher than for a Fiesta ST and, to be frank, the Fiesta is a better car. However, on the secondhand market, the Swift's case looks strong again - they're so damn cheap. This 16-plate car with just 4,000 miles is £9,995, for example. This generation of Swift Sport is actually available from £6K; ally its fun with reasonable running costs and - one assumes - decent reliability, and you have a very tempting junior hot hatch package.

Cheerio then Swifty!
Cheerio then Swifty!
Since the Swift joined the PH Fleet it has gone off sale (although there still a few new cars available), in theory making KY66 OVA one of the last Sports on the road. The standard Swift has been replaced by a new model and, in time, the Sport will be too. I have to be honest, though, things aren't looking all that good at the moment. A turbo engine isn't the end of the world, as many are now so good, but the Autocar road test of the standard model doesn't read well for those who enjoy the handling verve of the last car: "the new Swift is a lot closer to the dynamic standards of the average supermini than the previous one was." Hmm...

Let's see. Perhaps I've just become too attached to this car to see much room for improvement. Whatever the future holds for the Swift Sport though, there's no doubting this is a great little car. Fortunately enough it's being replaced by another blue, 1.6-litre car with a six-speed manual gearbox soon - a rather different proposition though...


FACT SHEET
Car
: Suzuki Swift Sport
Run by: Matt
On fleet since: October 2016
Mileage: 7,627 (delivered on 300)
List price new: £14,399
Last month at a glance: Sayonara Swift Sport!

Previous reports: 
A Swift hello!
Doors for thought as Matt gets in a five-door Sport
A Goodwood great? Not far off...
More miles means more smiles
Still a super Swift for Matt
Circuit training for the Swift
To Hull and back in the super little Swift

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Discussion

Ilovejapcrap

Original Poster:

3,274 posts

111 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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Awww. Use little swift.

I've been enjoying these little threads on a car I own myself and hold in high admiration

VeeFource

1,076 posts

176 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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Suzuki made the engine much quieter than the mk1 for the more stringent regulation drive by tests but unfortunately didn't bother to find a way to get more intake noise into the also now quieter cabin. But it's fairly easily rectified by removing the bulkhead sound insulation and covering all but the largest (which is for drone) helmholtz resonators *upstream* of the air filter. It will then sound like a Honda VTEC with a nice bit of gear whine thrown in too and this really makes the car imo.

Otispunkmeyer

12,558 posts

154 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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I regularly see a couple of guys blasting along in these on my way home... a blue and a white one. They look fun.

There is still NA fun to be had though... I reckon the current Mazda 2 with its 1.5 Skyactiv is a pretty peppy, fun little thing. And the engines are quite torquey for NA petrols thanks to the high compression/expansion ratio.

Kolbenkopp

2,343 posts

150 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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They really are ace. I doubt they'll ever reach the same level of collectability that e.g. a 205 GTI enjoys now, but on the plus side this will mean a good supply of affordable and reliable top notch warm hatchery available for generations to come. Thank you, Suzuki!

The successor will also be interesting. IMO they ruined the exterior styling, on the other hand, extrapolating from the specs released for the cooking versions, the car will be very, very light. But also very likely FI. Hm.

s m

23,164 posts

202 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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Otispunkmeyer said:
There is still NA fun to be had though... I reckon the current Mazda 2 with its 1.5 Skyactiv is a pretty peppy, fun little thing. And the engines are quite torquey for NA petrols thanks to the high compression/expansion ratio.
yes

They always seem to overlook these in stating the Swift is the last n/a hatch
They're just as quick ( barring tenths ) and they've just revised all the suspension/steering

VeeFource

1,076 posts

176 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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s m said:
yes

They always seem to overlook these in stating the Swift is the last n/a hatch
They're just as quick ( barring tenths ) and they've just revised all the suspension/steering
The Mazda's still 20bhp down on the Swift though which is a fair chunk at these modest power levels. Enough to make overtaking at higher speeds noticeably more of a challenge I'd have thought.

s m

23,164 posts

202 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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VeeFource said:
s m said:
yes

They always seem to overlook these in stating the Swift is the last n/a hatch
They're just as quick ( barring tenths ) and they've just revised all the suspension/steering
The Mazda's still 20bhp down on the Swift though which is a fair chunk at these modest power levels. Enough to make overtaking at higher speeds noticeably more of a challenge I'd have thought.
Look at the performance figures, no matter what bhp it says on paper - some cars just punch harder than others - i.e. the GT86 debate

Edited by s m on Thursday 22 June 08:49

Kolbenkopp

2,343 posts

150 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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s m said:
Look at the performance figures, no matter what bhp it says on paper - some cars just punch harder than others - i.e. the GT86 debate
Fully trust you on that being correct. Think Mazda 2 is also among the lightest super minis out there. Then there might be gearing / final drive differences...

Why it is never mentioned is IMO it is on nobody's radar due? Pretty sure it is due to no being marketed as a hot (warm) hatch. It's just the Mazda 2 with the biggest engine.

Never understood what is stopping them from upping the power a bit (MX5 1.6 level) and labelling it as an MX2 or something. And of course make more money cause like that I'm sure they could charge a grand or two more.

s m

23,164 posts

202 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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Kolbenkopp said:
s m said:
Look at the performance figures, no matter what bhp it says on paper - some cars just punch harder than others - i.e. the GT86 debate
Fully trust you on that being correct. Think Mazda 2 is also among the lightest super minis out there. Then there might be gearing / final drive differences...

Why it is never mentioned is IMO it is on nobody's radar due? Pretty sure it is due to no being marketed as a hot (warm) hatch. It's just the Mazda 2 with the biggest engine.

Never understood what is stopping them from upping the power a bit (MX5 1.6 level) and labelling it as an MX2 or something. And of course make more money cause like that I'm sure they could charge a grand or two more.
You're right about the marketing I'd say. Surprising on here though as the MX5 is quite appreciated and they've got the same ethos with the 2

Suzuki have pushed the Swift as a warm/hot hatch for ages whereas only the last few months that Mazda have revised it and sold the GT Sport/ Sport Nav as an under the radar funster. The 113bhp engine has been around for a fair while but I don't think it gives away much, if anything, in performance terms to the Swift - as with the MX5, the horses are fairly healthy.
The revisions they made recently were certainly to sharpen up the handling, tests I've read say the Ford and Suzuki definitely edge it on that front.



Matt Bird

1,450 posts

204 months

PH Reportery Lad

Sunday 25th June 2017
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s m said:
VeeFource said:
s m said:
yes

They always seem to overlook these in stating the Swift is the last n/a hatch
They're just as quick ( barring tenths ) and they've just revised all the suspension/steering
The Mazda's still 20bhp down on the Swift though which is a fair chunk at these modest power levels. Enough to make overtaking at higher speeds noticeably more of a challenge I'd have thought.
Look at the performance figures, no matter what bhp it says on paper - some cars just punch harder than others - i.e. the GT86 debate

Edited by s m on Thursday 22 June 08:49
When I wrote about the Mazda it wasn't received all that well...

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-japanesecars/m...


Matt

gweaver

906 posts

157 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Autocar weren't so fussed about the Mazda either.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/mazda/2/first...

"Range-topping version of Mazda's recently updated supermini packs 113bhp. The 2 GT is certainly swift but bland to drive".

Ilovejapcrap

Original Poster:

3,274 posts

111 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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gweaver said:
Autocar weren't so fussed about the Mazda either.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/mazda/2/first...

"Range-topping version of Mazda's recently updated supermini packs 113bhp. The 2 GT is certainly swift but bland to drive".
Now the new gweaver hows the swift I’m still very happy with mine