RE: Shed Of The Week: Volkswagen Golf Ryder

RE: Shed Of The Week: Volkswagen Golf Ryder

Friday 30th June 2017

Shed Of The Week: Volkswagen Golf Ryder

A PHer's postponed project could be worth preserving - classic Golfs won't remain Sheds for long!



Many years ago, in the early 2000s, Shed paid big money for a 1976 BMW 1502. Why? Because the 25-year-old eco-BMW had less than 100 miles on the clock. Some Italian prince had bought it in expectation of not being able to drive his Ferraris, what with the Gulf oil crisis kicking off and everything.

Turned out he never used the BM. A quarter of a century later it came up at a Scottish auction Shed was attending. The evocative whiff of unsullied plastic covers over blue velour seating was too much to resist.


After a few months commuting it around damp old Edinburgh, the first nobbles of oxidisation began to appear on the pristine silver bonnet. Unable to bear the sight of this fine example of German engineering dissolving before his eyes, Shed consigned it over to the main BMW dealer in Edinburgh for them to display and hopefully sell.

Which they duly did, to an American chap whose intention it was to replace the asthmatic 1573cc carb-fed four with an M3 motor. Shed got his money back, so it was all good. Some might wonder at the bastardisation of a classic, turning a car into something it was never intended to be, but Shed was cool with it. The car would have died as a 1502, but its transformation into a more valuable M3, even a false one, secured its future. For all Shed knows, his pumped-up 1502 is still sprinting around in the States somewhere.

What's this got to do with this week's Shed, a Mk2 Golf Ryder? Well, this VW is not quite as pristine as Shed's BMW, but it's basically sound. We're suggesting this as a canny investment because, whether you're a fan of the Mk2 Golf or not, the supply of sound Mk2 Golfs is drying up. The ones that survive are going to go up in value as the numbers dwindle, just as the Mk1s have. It's simple economics.


The owner of this one was planning to lob a VR6 engine into it but has now abandoned that plan in favour of restoring a Mini. Each to his own and so on. Be that as it may, his plan could now be your plan for the measly outlay of £695 or less. Of course, you could simply carry on driving this Golf as it is, topping up the gearbox oil as necessary, but it's only a 1.3 so you'll be overtaken by most things up to and possibly including a Sinclair C5 with no battery; so that's probably not much of an option.

You'll note a bleb or two of rust on the driver's door bottom. It failed its MOT in 2011 on rusty seat belt anchorages, but apart from an advisory for oil misting on a front damper in 2012 it's sailed through every test since with no advisories. Your vendor very honestly confesses that it will need welding to get through the next one, but isn't specific about where. Most likely areas will be the usual sills and arches, but rust will also pop up around the screen, jacking points, battery tray, rear beam mount points and front chassis legs. Bodies tend to let the water in, and flexy four-doors like this one are especially susceptible to leaks. Good panel gaps are important, and this one's look decent.


Heater matrixes and rear wipers often go AWOL, and there'll almost certainly be some degree of clunking from the CV joints and strut top mounts. Subframe bushes go and they're not that easy to replace. This is an old car, remember.

Funnily enough Shed has also owned a Mk2 Golf in rather nice condition. His one was a 1.8 Driver in black with steelies. Nothing went wrong with it, it was a nice thing to drive, and he eventually sold it to a delighted young man from the Midlands for a bit more than he paid for it. Everyone was happy. That's the thing with simple old classics. They make a lot of sense on a lot of levels. Sadly, judging by the MOT records anyway, the Driver's new owner killed it off within a year. C'est la vie, or la mort in this case.

Anyway, back to this one. If those are genuine Pirelli alloys, and they look like they are, you'll probably clear your costs on them alone if you end up breaking it. But, like Shed and his Mk2, and a few other things in his life, don't go making hasty decisions you might end up regretting.

Here's the ad.

Mk2 Golf Ryder in light metallic green. 1.3 carb. 4 speed. Bought this car to do vr6 conversion. Been offered a classic mini to restore so the golf needs to go. It's mot till Feb 18 and has 96000 miles on the clock. It has had rear wheel arches repaired which arnt the best. Has had some welding done, will need some for next mot. Has oil leak from gearbox. I have just topped it up. Is a good rolling resto project. If it dosnt sell, will just restore when I get round to it. Any questions please feel free to give me a shout.

 


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Colonial

Original Poster:

13,553 posts

205 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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How much for a VW Golf? They must be dreaming. I remember back in the day when they were a tuppence and you still had change for a turnip.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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I don't get the styling of these. I think they look awful. That's irrelevant though, more relevant is this:

It's a shed that needs unspecified welding for the next mot (I would not say that's basically sound, as it says in the article). Surely there must have been something else to choose

BL Fanboy

339 posts

142 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Is it a "One owner Ryder"? Geddit? 😊

MIDangerfield

46 posts

104 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Depending on what welding needs to be done I guess that's not too bad a price although that particular engine has all the pull of a lethargic toddler. Be lucky to find a reasonable GTi 16 valve for under 5 grand now. Some are even asking as much as 7 grand for really good examples with some mental traders wanting as much as 12 grand. Funnily enough those have been for sale for a while but I imagine it won't be too much longer before people are willing to pay that. Various parts are becoming a bit scarce now. Certainly I struggled to find a few bits for mine a few years ago. They also like to rust around the fuel filler cap. Mud gets flung up in the arch and gets stuck between the fuel filler neck and rear arch slowly rusting it inside out.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

187 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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SOTW fail, a barely roadworthy example of a car that wasn't desirable at the time. I guess it might make sense to someone doing a conversion but as an interesting proposition to tool about in it's useless. Also it's a fecking 5 door.

Makes me wish I'd left my MK2 GTi to rot in the garden so I could sell it for a couple of grand if this rotbox is worth 700 quid.

Weso

446 posts

204 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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BL Fanboy said:
Is it a "One owner Ryder"? Geddit? ??
Made me laugh

enjo

339 posts

138 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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In this case perhaps better used as an actual garden shed?

rallycross

12,787 posts

237 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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The Golf Ryder, one of those wonderful early 90's special editions that was not in the slightest bit special in anyway but at least helped them shift a few more base spec Golfs.
4 speed
No rev counter
1300 cc
No central locking etc

It's hard to think of a less interesting Golf.

Shed fail!

GTEYE

2,094 posts

210 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Interesting to see the hate for the Mk2 Golf.

Sure, this is a feeble example - and 55hp, so not worth bothering with. The clock rather than a rev counter give a clue too.....lol

But the 8V and especially 16V GTis are iconic hot hatches of the 80s, and appreciating classics in just the same way as 205 GTis and 5 GT Turbos....

Edited by GTEYE on Friday 30th June 08:47

Dafuq

371 posts

170 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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No thanks.

Many many moons ago in the past, I spent about £700 on a night out with an 18 year old German.....,

Woke up with 3 hickies, a t-shirt covered in sick (mine I think but can't be certain) and the mother of all hangovers.

Not keen to repeat the first part of above, just in case it leads to the second.

SirSquidalot

4,041 posts

165 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Had one of these for my first car, 1.3 is as slow as it sounds laugh

Still yearn for a Mk2, the interior holds up well compared to modern stuff considering they're 30 years old now!

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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GTEYE said:
Interesting to see the hate for the Mk2 Golf.

Sure, this is a feeble example - and 55hp, so not worth bothering with. The clock rather than a rev counter give a clue too.....lol

But the 8V and especially 16V GTis are iconic hot hatches of the 80s, and appreciating classics in just the same way as 205 GTis and 5 GT Turbos....
Lovely, an' all. But this is a saggy, shagged 1.3 low-spec five-door, not a 16v GTi.

Scene tax.

Dave Hedgehog

14,549 posts

204 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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rallycross said:
The Golf Ryder, one of those wonderful early 90's special editions that was not in the slightest bit special in anyway but at least helped them shift a few more base spec Golfs.
4 speed
No rev counter
1300 cc
No central locking etc

It's hard to think of a less interesting Golf.

Shed fail!
did you not read the article, your supposed to fit a V10 to into it

Turbobanana

6,258 posts

201 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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£700 = 10 pairs of decent walking boots. That would be my choice.

pppppppppppppppp

169 posts

122 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Strange that it has a 4-speed box. I had a base model G reg Golf in the late 90s and it had a 5-speed box. Maybe these were an option at the time.
Same engine though, and yes, it was hopelessly underpowered. Mine maxed out at an indicated 115 (private road etc. etc.).

Other than the woeful engine, it was a really good car. As for this one, it would make sense if you had the time and inclination to strip it back, spray it a decent colour and put a decent engine in. Either that or use it as what could be a decent enough runaround, assuming you had the time to fix the problems.

Some hate the way these look, but I love it. The round headlights were very unusual at a time when other cars had gone square, apart from fellow Germans BMW and Porsche. A well-loved mk2 Golf still looks good.

PistonBroker

2,414 posts

226 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Jimmy Recard said:
It's a shed that needs unspecified welding for the next mot (I would not say that's basically sound, as it says in the article). Surely there must have been something else to choose
Yes, reads like a friend of the writer who's asked him to shoo it in to SOTW so he can offload it.

I love Mk2 Golfs - a G-reg 8v GTI in light metallic green was my 2nd car - but I wouldn't have chosen this as SOTW.

rallycross

12,787 posts

237 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Dave Hedgehog said:
did you not read the article, your supposed to fit a V10 to into it
LOL I know but then you'd at least start with a base car that's suitable, not a 5 door base model 4 speeder drum brakes cack suspension and no rev counter - bks to all that hard work.

Dale487

1,334 posts

123 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Turbobanana said:
£700 = 10 pairs of decent walking boots. That would be my choice.
More like 5 pairs but I get the point.

If this had been a single owner car with half the mileage & didn't need all the work for the next MOT I could understand it as a shed of the week, just.

In my opinion it's not worth spending the money on & the idea of putting a VR6 motor in a body that needs that much work seems crazy to me - it ain't even a 3 door (unless you do nothing to the body for a full sleeper look). But this is why basic models die because they cost the same to restore body & interior as the interesting ones - that's why loads of Porsche 912s died

Decoy

82 posts

176 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Decoy said:
Decimal point fail.