RE: Morgan Plus 8 racecar: You Know You Want To

RE: Morgan Plus 8 racecar: You Know You Want To

Friday 7th July 2017

Morgan Plus 8 racecar: You Know You Want To

If there's a cooler track car around for £40K, we're yet to see it



It's difficult to think of Morgans being particularly racy cars where models like the 4/4, recently inducted into the PH Heroes hall of fame, are concerned. They're genteel roadsters for pottering to the pub and embracing a more relaxed pace of life. However there is, of course, another side of Morgan, with a factory motorsport effort, privately converted racers, and production cars like the Plus 8 Speedster.


And when you think about it, there's a lot going for a Morgan as a circuit project. With the V8 cars you have big power, very little weight and rear-wheel drive - already a good start and, to be frank, the British have always done quite well with eight-cylinder sports cars. Alright, we've made quite a lot, that's probably a more accurate statement.

Then there's this, a Plus 8 modified to be a track and race car. How much fun does it look?! There's surely more than enough of power, noise and performance, on top of the fantastically cool retro aesthetic, to keep a lot of drivers entertained. In fact, we were so taken by the big haunches - well, it's one of the later, wider cars - that it just had to feature.

The ad is a little short of detail, though it's clearly pitched as a racer - look at the windscreen! Look at the stickers too; hopefully, they tell a story of a long and illustrious career. Could it be made to road spec perhaps? There's no mention of an MoT though there are lights, indicators, seats... Can't need much more, can it? Obviously, we're speculating here, though only because the one place this could look better - and draw more attention - than in a paddock is out on the public road.


That's what's key to the appeal, isn't it? The raffish attitude; this is not a track car for finely adjusting the downforce, nailing braking points and ensuring your shift point is spot on. It's for going really bloomin fast thanks to a huge great engine, and most likely having an absolute ball - by dictating everything that the car does - in the process.

What else could you buy? There's the usual range of British suspects for £40,000, though you could be struggling to fully replicate this. A Caterham will of course only have four cylinders, a Radical is a far more serious track proposition and a Zenos is never going to be as cool as this. Meaning you're probably left with a V8 Westfield or something like this TVR Tuscan.

No doubt they will be fun. This potentially looks even more entertaining though, especially with the rarity factor thrown in. Imagine passing someone in their caged M3 with your 40-year-old Morgan - splendid! It looks ready to rumble right now in fact. What's stopping you? Track day season is in full flow!


MORGAN PLUS8 RACECAR
Price
: £40,000
Why you should: You need this answering?
Why you shouldn't: Not exactly short of fast, loud, Brit track cars are we now?

See the original ad here

 

 

 

 

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TREMAiNE

Original Poster:

3,915 posts

149 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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Why should/shouldn't I?

wink

GranCab

2,902 posts

146 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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You might want to fit some seatbelts / harnesses ... rollcage ... etc.

Dafuq

371 posts

170 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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GranCab said:
You might want to fit some seatbelts / harnesses ... rollcage ... etc.
Pah! I fart in your general direction with your nannny state 'roll cage and seat belts' suggestion, you smell of elderberries.

I will buy this machine, but only if provided with a complimentary 100 pack of your cigarettes (that are cleverly marketed with no marketing but messages of impending doom and illness instead)

bigbadbikercats

634 posts

208 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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I once had a memorable passenger ride in a car very much like this (actually a bona fide Morgan Challenge car but still road registered) around Snetterton. Thunderous noise, ballistic acceleration[1] and sideways pretty much everywhere (including on the nominally straight bits) every time the driver so much as looked at the throttle. I thought the driver was showboating for my benefit, but apparently no, they're just like that.

I was grinning for days afterwards. I'm quite sure there are quicker ways around a race track for the same kind of money but you can't measure fun with a stopwatch.

[1] The owner claimed it was making about 300 BHP, whether that's plausible for a Rover V8 on carbs I don't know, but it certainly felt like a hell of a lot...

Richair

1,021 posts

197 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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PH said:
The ad is a little short of detail, though it's clearly pitched as a racer
For what!?.. Just looks like a road car with a few go-faster bits to me. Sure PH know what a race car actually looks like, you know, like having mandatory safety equipment and stuff? It would probably pass for a roadgoing speed event car perhaps.

Either way it looks like a lot of fun and very cool, but a race car it is not.

V8 FOU

2,971 posts

147 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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There's a Scotsman who regularly capaigns one of these at Knockhill. Usually unbeatable by the 911's etc.
No doubt someone will know who that is and let us know.
Don't usually like Morgans that much - but this could turn my head!

Dafuq

371 posts

170 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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bigbadbikercats said:
I once had a memorable passenger ride in a car very much like this (actually a bona fide Morgan Challenge car but still road registered) around Snetterton. Thunderous noise, ballistic acceleration[1] and sideways pretty much everywhere (including on the nominally straight bits) every time the driver so much as looked at the throttle. I thought the driver was showboating for my benefit, but apparently no, they're just like that.

I was grinning for days afterwards. I'm quite sure there are quicker ways around a race track for the same kind of money but you can't measure fun with a stopwatch.

[1] The owner claimed it was making about 300 BHP, whether that's plausible for a Rover V8 on carbs I don't know, but it certainly felt like a hell of a lot...
Don't you just love the fact that these type of things are out there?

It has been said before on here, but there seems to be far less cars of character around these days. Its all about 'how big are the wheels', what's the 0-62 time, what extras does it have and how badly will it depreciate. Quite frankly I couldn't care less, I think a much better measure would be 'how often does it put a massive grin on your face' or 'involuntary laugh out louds per mile'.

I am so bored of modern vehicles and the perceived 'enjoyment' the manufacturers are telling me I should be getting from them. All marketing bks, in my view. I managed to cut my teeth (in my yoof) by driving lower powered and often larey cars hard and well to get the most out of them, and I enjoyed it very much. This will be a hoot, in a way a lot of the 'latest tech' stuff could never be.

Tickle

4,907 posts

204 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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So cool! So much want!

Woody928

25 posts

94 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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Dafuq said:
Pah! I fart in your general direction with your nannny state 'roll cage and seat belts' suggestion, you smell of elderberries.

I will buy this machine, but only if provided with a complimentary 100 pack of your cigarettes (that are cleverly marketed with no marketing but messages of impending doom and illness instead)
Brilliant response laugh

V8 TEJ

375 posts

161 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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The advert says "a variety of modifications including twin SU carbs..."

I thought all Rover V8s had these? Well obviously those without fuel injection smile

They do look like bigguns though, maybe 2" SU carbs. HD8 I think.

CABC

5,569 posts

101 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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i'm just back from a 2 hr drive in a new, standard Duratec Plus 4, thankfully on smooth hillside roads that i know as this car hates rough surfaces.
it's not that powerful, suspension from the 40s but on the right road these cars shift. They're also a great way to enjoy rwd and the rotation you get under throttle mid corner. an old school reminder about vehicle dynamics. every true petrolhead should hire one for at least a day. a test drive won't do as you have to push past the anachronistic ride, find good roads and get to know it. At its best, a great car. Most of the other times a real pita.

Panjy

162 posts

146 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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Lovely looking car but with no roof or roll cage you are looking at certain death if that thing turns over eek

sospan

2,483 posts

222 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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I have a standard road spec Plus8 with fuel injection. Touching 19o/200 bhp. Awesome fun.
This car could well be close to 300bhp with a modified engine from a Rover V8 specialist (John Eales, RPI etc). it is not a race ready car, obviously, due to lack of safety gear and race regs set up. Morgan has its own race series with classes to suit various set ups and alterations. The side exit exhaust will add to the sound experience.
A good looking car though. The price is a bit high for standard road spec and a bit low for a full race spec. There are signs of upgrades having been done......
Extra air intake ducts.
Side exit exhaust.
No full windscreen.
No extinguisher system.
No roll cage.
Interior not stripped back.
Beamish are a well known dealer for Morgans.


Edited by sospan on Friday 7th July 18:10


Edited by sospan on Friday 7th July 18:12

sisu

2,580 posts

173 months

Saturday 8th July 2017
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Panjy said:
Lovely looking car but with no roof or roll cage you are looking at certain death if that thing turns over eek
Don't crash it then.


jnoiles

78 posts

156 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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"Can't need much more, can it? "

To be a race car?

A roll cage
A decent seat
Some fire protection
Towing eyes
Electrical cut outs
Window nets