RE: Maserati GranTurismo/GranCabrio MY18: Driven

RE: Maserati GranTurismo/GranCabrio MY18: Driven

Saturday 22nd July 2017

Maserati GranTurismo/GranCabrio | PH Review

A final facelift sharpens the case for these two aged stagers


In an era when even sports car manufacturers want to talk up their green credentials at every turn, there's something glorious, if slightly guilty, in a car that manages less than 20mpg combined on the official economy test. It's a figure that, together with a power station rivalling 331g/km CO2 rating, proves the Maserati GranTurismo comes from a very different era, but also that its priorities haven't shifted since.

Not that the GranTurismo was meant to still be fighting its rearguard action for conspicuous excess at this point. Along with its GranCabrio sister, it has managed to escape the hangman's noose, defying the prediction made several years ago by Maserati's then boss, Harald Wester, that both would have been long since retired by now. Maserati's model plans have slipped, and Wester has departed, and both are now being given a final facelift to help them carry on to the eventual arrival of a new two-door.

This is a range trimming as much as a refresh, one that acknowledges the increasingly small role that the GT and GC play in Maserati's ambition to get to 70,000 cars a year. The former entry-level 4.2-litre V8 engine is gone, along with the option of an automated single-clutch gearbox that was formerly offered on the range-topping MC Stradale. (Maserati says the smaller engine was chosen by just 20 per cent of buyers, with fewer than one in ten picking the fast but lunge-prone MC Shift transmission.) From now on the only powertrain option will be the brawnier 460hp 4.7-litre V8 and the six-speed torque converter auto. The choice is limited to Sport or MC trim and whether or not to opt for a fixed roof.

While the GranTurismo remains a handsome car, its fundamentals have not altered since it was launched in 2007. The imminent retirement of the current Bentley Continental and Aston Martin Vantage mean that the GT and its convertible sister are set to become the oldest swingers in town, with the 2018 model year revisions being limited to redesigned bumpers front and rear, new trim and colour options and some spec tweaks.

The most significant of these is likely to be the fitment of the touchscreen infotainment system from the Levante, replacing the late Palaeolithic sat-nav that provided as many laughs as actual guidance. This works well and, by itself, makes the car feel much more modern: the intuitive interface rendering the continued presence of a secondary turn-and-click controller almost entirely redundant, but its grafted-on nature is evident in the fact it doesn't communicate with the far older-school digital display that sits between the instruments. Other stuff that buyers in this rarefied segment would normally expect to find as standard is conspicuously absent as well; no blind spot monitoring or active safety features, no radar cruise control, not even a keyless start - the Maserati still using an actual key that looks suspiciously like a late 1990s Alfa Romeo item.

Yet for some the GranTurismo's very lack of tech has become a part of its appeal - it's definitely an analogue sports car in a digital age. Steering still uses hydraulic rather than electrical assistance, with switchable modes limited to a single 'Sport' button and fully defeatable stability control. And what's not to like about a naturally aspirated V8 that's built by Ferrari in Maranello?

Starting in a GranTurismo MC, it's obvious that the engine remains the star of the show. The V8 lacks the low-down punch that defines more modern turbo units, but it also does without their swelling power delivery. Throttle response is outstanding, at least it is once the surprisingly slushy autobox has wound up its torque converter, and the operatic noises that come from the top quarter of the rev range are achieved without any acoustic management or digital enhancement beyond switchable flaps in the exhaust. You could drive a very long way in the GranTurismo and, apart from the need to fund its serious fuel habit, never get bored of the way the engine sounds and responds.

The GranTurismo's chassis delivers similarly rich sensations, although not all are entirely welcome. The steering is alive with the sort of low-load feedback that EPAS systems tend to filter out as unwanted noise. The rack is lower geared than many more modern systems, making for more arm twirling in the tighter stuff, but there's still a sense of dynamic connection that many sports cars have lost in the quest for improved speed and accuracy.

The GranTurismo has always been, to be frank, a bit of a pudger, and sports cars have got lighter and more lithe since it was launched. On twistier roads, the MC's claimed 1,873kg mass becomes more obvious, the P Zeros producing plenty of grip but the MC's front end starting to run wide surprisingly early in slower corners. While it is possible to neutralise a wandering cornering line by easing the throttle, the engine's lack of low-down firepower means the on-throttle handling balance doesn't feel quite as rear-led as you might expect a car possessing such potent numbers to. It takes commitment bordering on abuse to persuade the rear end to relinquish adhesion first.

The bigger problem, certainly given the GranTurismo's eponymous cruising mission, is the MC's suspension. While the cheaper Sport still uses 'Skyhook' adaptive dampers, the MC has firmer fixed rate dampers, which felt too stiff even on mostly smooth Italian tarmac. The MC's louder exhaust also produced some droning harmonics from the back of the cabin at cruising speeds; it feels like it's trying a bit too hard to be the hardcore sports car that it really isn't.

Switching to the GranCabrio MC, which has just become the most expensive current Maserati, shows that the open-topped car struggles even more with rougher surfaces, the chunky suspension settings revealing the body's relative lack of torsional rigidity. Handling is similarly less precise, the GranCabrio lugging another 100kg of mass on Maserati's figures.

It's certainly not terrible; the BMW M4 cabrio feels equally wobblesome on a bumpy road, but the chassis settings just don't suit the car. Beyond sunburn and a wind-styled bouffant, the open roof does bring one other significant advantage, though - an even greater appreciation of the V8 soundtrack.

Yet all isn't lost; a final turn in a GranCabrio Sport reveals that the adaptive dampers do a much better job at keeping occupants comfortable over corrugations, even their turned-up Sport mode being more pliant than the MC. Given the Sport GranCabrio costs £8K less than the MC and seems better-suited to the role of relaxed tourer, that's close to a no-brainer, surely?

The problem with the long lifespan and vertiginous depreciation of luxury sports cars is that new versions often look very expensive. With GranTurismos in the classifieds starting in the mid-20s that's certainly the case here; spending four times as much on a new one will get you a very similar car. Yet for all the GT and GC feeling old, this is also a segment that plays by irrational rules, where emotional appeal counts for more than any other part of the market. There's no shame in still lusting after a GranTurismo or GranCabrio, but it's also fair to say that we're looking forward to meeting their replacements.


MASERATI GRANTURISMO MC

Engine: 4,691cc, V8
Transmission: 6-speed auto, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 460@7,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 383@4,750rpm
0-62mph: 4.7sec (claimed)
Top speed: 187mph
Weight: 1,873kg (with driver and fluids)
MPG: 19.8
CO2: 331g/km
Price: £108,780

MASERATI GRANCABRIO MC

Engine: 4,691cc, V8
Transmission: 6-speed auto, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 460@7,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 383@4,750rpm
0-62mph: 4.7sec (claimed)
Top speed: 182mph
Weight: 1,973kg (with driver and fluids)
MPG: 19.2
CO2: 337g/km
Price: £115,245

MASERATI GRANCABRIO SPORT

Engine: 4,691cc, V8
Transmission: 6-speed auto, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 460@7,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 383@4,750rpm
0-62mph: 5.0sec (claimed)
Top speed: 180mph
Weight: 1,980kg (with driver and fluids)
MPG: 19.2
CO2: 337g/km
Price: £107,200

   
   
   
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V8 FOU

Original Poster:

2,973 posts

147 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Last hurrah for a proper car. Hydraulic steering and a NA V8.
Proper.
We won't see the likes of this car again. Next one will be, yawn, twin turbo, electric steering etc.....
Well done Maserati for keeping the faith for this long.

drewbagz

183 posts

164 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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What he said.

In this modern age of tech loaded supercars there is something refreshing about the GT/GC. It's what I would expect of a grab it by the scruff of the neck and earn your hero points supercar, which appear to be few and far between.

Who would have thought Maserati would be the ones catering for the true petrol head, at least till TVR comes back into the picture, which I await with bated breath.

Well done Maserati, well done.

Murphy16

254 posts

82 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Looks gorgeous in that deep red, i think the 'special occasion' feeling I'd get climbing in and firing up the NA V8 would all but eliminate some of the quirks it might have.

E65Ross

35,069 posts

212 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Not 100% sure on the vent in the bonnet, that aside, it is a truly wonderful looking car. Especially in that colour.

ZX10R NIN

27,594 posts

125 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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I love these cars I still miss mine they are a great 2+2 GT, just one thing didn't Maserati kill off the 4.2 as soon as the 4.7 was introduced?


alpha channel

1,387 posts

162 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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When a car looks this good why hurry replacing it? I have my doubts with whatever they replace it with won't look anywhere near as good (never mind the old school charm).

TonyG2003

257 posts

92 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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It would be a fairly expensive purchase new with probably £45-40k of depreciation in the first 2yrs (looking at the classified prices for a 2015) but an interesting purchase 2yrs down the line from now.

It does look good though!

Jarama s

19 posts

98 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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The clue is in the name, Granturismo, it's a GT not a sports car, I have owned my 2008 4.2 auto for five years now and I absolutely adore it.......in just about every way ( bar the infotainment ) Its like a modern day Espada, Ferrari GT4 or Indy, a beautiful full four seater full of charm and style. Its not thirsty at all, in fact it averages 27mpg with 33 on a run because it has very long gearing ( not sure if this featured model has the same gearing ? ) Its not very quick, wouldn't keep up with the works 435D ( but not much does ), it has around the same pace as the works NSX. As a GT its more than quick enough. The best thing about the Granturismo is the ride, the 4.2 has smaller wheels and rides like a limo. I considered, and won't rule out in the future, a 4.7 S, Its a little quicker but not much, 0.2 to 60. Servicing is good value ( in accordance to my expectations ) and needed once every two years.

I purchased it to replace the works 550 Maranello and is in a different league, the 550 was quicker but very unreliable, badly engineered and poorly finished, in my opinion, and was very thirsty, it couldn't in reality be used every day.....the Granturismo could....just !

The one trick Maserati in their wisdom missed, on the latest model, was the fitment of the 8 speed ZF or a six speed manual just for me.

JMF894

5,501 posts

155 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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With those running costs and initial depreciation you don't need a sense of humour to own one but I guess it helps...........................

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4316/35160839544_a31...

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4308/35867554341_f6b...

Le Mans this year. Had his family with him too. Bravo!


sidesauce

2,475 posts

218 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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alpha channel said:
When a car looks this good why hurry replacing it? I have my doubts with whatever they replace it with won't look anywhere near as good (never mind the old school charm).
Only they haven't hurried replacing it - it's been out 10 years now (First cars came out in 2007)!

If they replace it with a version of this Alfieri concept (as mooted), I'll definitely have disagree about the looks. I think it's stunning and definitely moves the game on from the GrandTurismo:-



Ares

11,000 posts

120 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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sidesauce said:
alpha channel said:
When a car looks this good why hurry replacing it? I have my doubts with whatever they replace it with won't look anywhere near as good (never mind the old school charm).
Only they haven't hurried replacing it - it's been out 10 years now (First cars came out in 2007)!

If they replace it with a version of this Alfieri concept (as mooted), I'll definitely have disagree about the looks. I think it's stunning and definitely moves the game on from the GrandTurismo:-


Thats beautiful!!

Having spent a bit of time in my local Maserati dealer, coming achingly close to buying a Ghibli S, the GT still looks fresh and has old school drama about it. The dealer also has Lamborghini and much as they are the 'better' cars, they lack the glamour of the Maserati.

big_rob_sydney

3,402 posts

194 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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A bit like Bruce Forsyth having eaten a contestant, now being given a zimmer frame?

Too old, too fat, too flatulent, well past its prime.

Should have retired and been replaced years ago, with a younger, fresher, better looking model.

AWG

855 posts

156 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Glad they have update the centre console, the buttons sill appear rather 'cassette deck-esk!' to me.

E65Ross

35,069 posts

212 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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big_rob_sydney said:
A bit like Bruce Forsyth having eaten a contestant, now being given a zimmer frame?

Too old, too fat, too flatulent, well past its prime.

Should have retired and been replaced years ago, with a younger, fresher, better looking model.
Just like a Lexus LS, then hehe

cko

30 posts

134 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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I would feel much better with this one at less than £30k and minus the scoop: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

On a separate note im now finding these 3200gt gorgeous!

theholygrail

261 posts

168 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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cko said:
I would feel much better with this one at less than £30k and minus the scoop: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

On a separate note im now finding these 3200gt gorgeous!
Totally agree. That one in the ad you've linked is stunning. £30k really does seem a bargain, albeit I know there will be significant running costs, but sooo tempting!

jakesmith

9,461 posts

171 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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answering a point above the 4.2 was not superseded in uk and was available in parallel with 4.7 as recently as 4 weeks ago

also on fuel, 4.2 is ok on a run and csn touch 28 but im averaging 18, if u want to hear the engine it drinks fuel

Surrey within m25 to Acron and back today left after 9am. 40 miles, 12.8 mpg!!

Mustang Baz

1,632 posts

234 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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As a very recent purchaser of a GT MC Stradale, it was nice to read a balanced article on the (mildly) refreshed model. This car is very much a heart over head decision - and I had to constantly ask myself whether I was being sentimental and irrational before pressing the purchase button.

However, early thoughts after nearly a month and c.850 miles remain incredibly positive. As I called out in another post in GG, the overall driving experience, family practicality (don't forget this as there are very few genuine other options), sense of occasion, pride of ownership, noise/looks are all exactly as I would have hoped for. Yes, I recognise that the ICE is poor, but this isn't the end of the world and I can live with it - and it has been addressed in this new version. Yes, the auto box in isolation is clunky and poor - again addressed in this version; but then I switch into Sport mode for almost all driving outside of dull motorways and even further into Race when I want the hounds of hell unleashed from the exhausts! And yes, the design is a decade old - but the car is one of timeless design.

Plenty of superb examples in the classifieds with reasonable mileage, good condition, and a lot of the depreciation pain already taken.


ZX10R NIN

27,594 posts

125 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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cko said:
I would feel much better with this one at less than £30k and minus the scoop: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

On a separate note im now finding these 3200gt gorgeous!
You wouldn't feel that way once you'd been in a 4.7 in auto or MC Shift plus the worry about the variators on the 4.2 might just keep you up at night.

ZX10R NIN

27,594 posts

125 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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sidesauce said:
Only they haven't hurried replacing it - it's been out 10 years now (First cars came out in 2007)!

If they replace it with a version of this Alfieri concept (as mooted), I'll definitely have disagree about the looks. I think it's stunning and definitely moves the game on from the GrandTurismo:-


The Alfieri looks great but it won't be a proper 2+2 like the GT is, it'll be a 2+0 like the DB9 frown