The Ferrari V8 berlinettas: Spotted
At £140K would you take a pristine manual F430, or an early 458 Italia?
In the latter case that seems especially sad. Yes, it's a jarringly familiar line to trot out now, but the click-clack of an open-gated Ferrari manual is such an iconic experience that its demise is still upsetting. For all but the youngest of car fans there has to be a manual Ferrari that formed part of the fascination growing up: for me it was the F50 and 550 Maranello, with the decades previous of course also crammed with legendary manual models.
Now the market is starting to appreciate the timeless appeal of manuals, perhaps because of their relative rarity, and pushing up prices for particularly desirable versions. The Ferrari F430 is a particularly interesting example; much like the 599 GTB Fiorano, it represents Maranello right on the cusp of becoming the F1-influenced sports car powerhouse it is today, with some traditional elements still available. Here are two cars that had a manettino switch, for instance, but which could also be had with a manual gearbox (albeit very rarely in the 599).
As a result, the three-pedal F430 has garnered quite a following for some time now. It's the last V8 berlinetta manual, which makes it significant, and could it be said that its mid-2000s styling looks less awkward than it once did? Whatever, the car is very much in demand, as evidenced by this particular example.
A 2006 car in black with the Challenge wheels, yellow calipers and - of course - a manual gearbox, it looks like a lovely F430. With less than eight thousand miles and the support of an official Ferrari dealer, it's hard to imagine finding a better one if an F430 is what your heart desires.
But it's £140,000. Yes, manual Ferraris really are that desirable in 2017. And that means the 430 begins to align with its successor, the 458 Italia. So while the £140K 458 won't be quite as immaculate as the 430, it does create a very interesting comparison.
This 2011 Italia is for sale at £95 less than the 430. Some will say the spec is too subdued, though it is at least comparable to the older car. And while 31,000 is of course a chunk more miles, it's not unreasonable. Up the budget to £150K and this Rosso Corsa 458 is at an official dealer with 10,000 miles less.
Anyway, the pair of black cars. Ultimately it will come down to what you want from your Ferrari, won't it? For something to keep, to cherish, to use sparingly and remind you of the classic sports cars, the 430 will be the one to have. Dare it be mentioned, your money might be safer in it as well... The 458 will be the faster, more exciting experience, a newer car that won't require as much commitment as the 430 across the board. It too has its own significance as the last naturally aspirated V8 Ferrari berlinetta.
Which would it be? Of course it's not a quandary ever faced by most petrolheads, but indulge us a little fantasising for today. Despite being just a few years apart they represent quite different Ferrari eras - where does your preference lie?
FERRARI F430
Engine: 4,308cc, V8
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 490@8,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 343@5,250rpm
MPG: N/A
CO2: 420g/km
First registered: 2006
Recorded mileage: 7,000
Price new: £127,050
Yours for: £139,995
See the original advert here.
FERRARI 458 ITALIA
Engine: 4,499cc, V8
Transmission: 7-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 570@9,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 398@6,000rpm
MPG: 21.2
CO2: 307g/km
First registered: 2011
Recorded mileage: 31,000
Price new: £178,491
Yours for: £139,900
See the original advert here
Anyway, 458 for me unless we were talking 430 SCUDERIA!
Anyway, 458 for me unless we were talking 430 SCUDERIA!
I prefer it for its performance, interior ergonomics, that seven-year maintenance plan (the car in the article wouldn't qualify so I'd aim for a least a 2012 model over a 2011 for that reason) and because I'd use it every. single. day.
Been in 355s, 430s and 458s; the idealists choice might be something older but from a pragmatic point of view I'd prefer the most reliable (and safe were an accident to occur) which obviously is going to be the newest car.
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They are also not amazing cars; exaggerated by the 458 which moved the game on significantly. For me, the obsession with manuals is getting a bit much; now ANYTHING with a manual gearbox is a true driver's car.
Anyway, 458 for me unless we were talking 430 SCUDERIA!
Anyway, I'd go for either 458 or 355, unless 360CS suddenly plummets. There is also something about the way the 430Scud looks that I can't quite gel with, although not sure I can put my finger on exactly what it is.
Also, I don't see the 430 as being particularly shorter in supply, ie, its not a limited edition model like a CS. The same is true of the 458. So we have mainstream models in both cases.
I don't know if there's enough data yet to make the case, but I would have thought too that the newer car would be better built, with not only better structural rigidity, but also better materials science employed in its components, simply due to the manufacturer expanding on its knowledge and simply building a better car as time goes by.
I also like the looks of the 458 more, but this is totally subjective.
Not that I would ever get the chance, but I would love to take these to track days. In such circumstances, I'd expect the newer car to be faster, but I also wonder which would be more outright "fun".
458 for me.
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