RE: Shed of the Week: Volkswagen Passat V6

RE: Shed of the Week: Volkswagen Passat V6

Friday 15th September 2017

Shed of the Week: Volkswagen Passat V6

Low mileage and a solid V6 make for some proper bargain barging - if you can get to it before Shed does!



A few years ago, Shed bought a Passat Estate sight unseen from an eBayer in Cumbria. Same colour as today's Shed of the Week, but a B5.5 1.9 diesel rather than the somewhat rarer B5 2.8 petrol V6 Syncro winter special that we have here.

After an incredibly convoluted train journey, Shed eventually arrived at the sort of deserted one-platform station you see in 1960s art-house films directed by angry young men. In a light but penetrating drizzle, Shed trudged to the seller's establishment. This turned out to be a 'non-specialist garage', as dodgy old-school motor traders are sometimes called.


The Passat looked OK from a distance, as does Mrs Shed when you're looking through the wrong end of a dirty telescope. The nearer he got to it, the more uneasy Shed felt, and that was also the case for the Passat. It seemed a lot more tired in the flesh than it had looked in the eBay ad. The windows were very steamed up, which is definitely not something that ever happens when you're sitting in a car with Mrs Shed.

Pausing only to execute a battery swap - a groin-busting operation not recommended for anyone trying to avoid an operation - Shed set off for home, with the garage shutting very early as he was leaving. Apart from the pervasive smell of damp, all seemed well-ish, but over the next few days a series of strange electrical events began to unfold. When you wanted one thing to happen, something quite different would occur. So you'd go for main beam and the sunroof would open. Pressing the horn would bring a lovely warm glow to your backside as the heated seats kicked in. Attempting to indicate would set off all four winkers at once.


Turned out the drain holes in the battery tray had blocked up, as they do in all Passats apparently, re-routing who knows how many gallons of Cumbrian rain into the passenger side carpet, front and rear. That needn't have been a major issue in itself. After a scant two weeks of drying out using a combination of expensively-hired dehumidifier and two sacks of granulated horse bedding, it was possible to do quite long trips in the Passat without any mushrooms growing on your trousers.

The big problem was the fact that VW, in its infinite wisdom, had located an important 'comfort' ECU under the passenger side carpet. Wiring that had left the factory in strict Germanic order had turned into a more artistic, Italianate almost, vermicelli mush. The ECU was receiving instructions from the driver but then passing them on in a frustratingly random fashion to whichever wire seemed most up to the job at the time.


Shed came out of that experience a wiser, more cynical and fortunately richer man after he managed to offload the Passat onto a delighted vicar who clearly loved the masking whiff of concentrated Febreze. A nice bit of karmic revenge there for Shed's miserable Catholic upbringing and short-lived career as a choirboy.

This Passat looks like a lot more solid bet. The miles are remarkably low for a start. The MOT record confirms that this car rarely did more than 3000 miles a year in any of the last ten years. The MOT history also reveals it's had a fair bit of work carried out on the front suspension, which does take a beating in these 2.8s. Syncro suspension is fully independent front and rear. The 4x4 system is Torsen and the petrol drinking heavy. LPG conversion might be worth a few minutes' research.

Considering the mileage, the half-leather upholstery looks oddly baggy, and who knows what sort of mutant insect headbutted the front end above the numberplate. At least that dent in the offside rear door looks soft enough to pull out.


Mrs Shed never liked the soggy Passat, not so much for its sogginess but for the fact that she found it to be a clumsy town drive. "It's too big," she moaned, for the first and almost certainly last time in their long and terrible relationship.

Still, despite his bad experience, Shed would have another Passat Estate, maybe even a Syncro like this 'un. So if you're selling one and the chap who comes to look at it heads straight for the carpets, mind your manners: it might be Shed.

Here's the ad.

Blue, Here we have for sale a VW Passat 2.8 V6 which has covered only 78,000 miles and comes with a full service record. New MOT will be provided on sale., 3 owners, Electronic Air-Conditioning, Climate Control, Electric Windows (Front), 'Gamma' Radio Cassette with Rear Speakers, Air Bag Driver, Air Bag Passenger, Central Door Locking, Power-Assisted Steering. 5 seats, HPI CHECKED, VOSA HISTORY CHECKED. PLEASE CALL FOR MORE DETAILS OR TO BOOK YOURSELF A TEST DRIVE TODAY. ON SITE CUSTOMER PARKING. WE ARE OPEN 7 DAYS A WEEK. OUR SITE POSTCODE IS SN3 3JW. ONLY A 5 MINUTE DRIVE FROM THE M4 MOTORWAY JUNCTION 15, Experian auto check clear, £1,495 p/x considered
2.8 V6 Syncro 4dr

 

 

 

 

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tezzer

Original Poster:

983 posts

186 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Handy load lugger, or tip run car !

gmackay2

160 posts

195 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Had 2 of these in saloon format, a manual one which I put about 50k on in under 2 years and an auto one which I only had for about 8 months. The auto gearbox suits the engine better, but the manual gives overall better mpg. Mostly averaged about 30-32mpg with the manual one.

They are not quick cars and nor do they handle very good either. A remapped 130tdi Passat with sport suspension leaves it for dead! The standard suspension on the syncro/4motion cars is quite soft and decent after market kits are not that common. Also I seem to remember the brake discs on the rear being the same as an A8 and not any other Passat or A4? The interior of that one looks very worn for 70k........ Both of mine with much higher miles never looked as worn as that. Also the seats are not that comfy for longer journeys I found.

Oil leaks are common on that V6 mostly rocker cover gaskets weeping. As with all b5/5.5's they love suspension arms. Buy cheap and you will constantly be chasing rattles and knocks. Do it all at once and use good quality arms and then get a full 4 wheel alignment check and they ride a lot nicer then.

If you must have a petrol/v6 and 4x4 then get one. Otherwise by a sport tdi passat and remap it. It will be cheaper to run long term and handle better too.

J4CKO

41,515 posts

200 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Is it just me or were these better int a lot of ways than the later model, I remember them being a bit of a minor sensation when they came out, good looking, comfy with a very nice and good quality interior, plus the 130 BHP diesel was very effective and gave great MPG, the later ones looked less attractive and seem to have more issues.

These these never seem to look down at heel really


grumpy52

5,574 posts

166 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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I have looked at a couple of this style Passat and every one of them has had a list of faults just like the first one described in the article .
They all seem to suffer from central locking and window faults at some stage .
Lots available locally and all in the death throes of the final journey to the "recycling " yard .

Jonny_gti

289 posts

80 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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decent for the money, I thought the 2.8v6 in this would have been the same as the mk4 Golf 4mo lump but it seems its a slightly different unit 190hp with a 30v ? seems strange do these still sound as good as the golf's?

gmackay2

160 posts

195 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Jonny_gti said:
decent for the money, I thought the 2.8v6 in this would have been the same as the mk4 Golf 4mo lump but it seems its a slightly different unit 190hp with a 30v ? seems strange do these still sound as good as the golf's?
no this is the same engine that was in C5 A6's and C5 Allroads with the 2.7t twin turbos but this is it without any turbos

Cupramax

10,480 posts

252 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Jonny_gti said:
decent for the money, I thought the 2.8v6 in this would have been the same as the mk4 Golf 4mo lump but it seems its a slightly different unit 190hp with a 30v ? seems strange do these still sound as good as the golf's?
Its the Audi 90 degree 5v V6, so not slightly different, its a completely different engine. These are basically a B5 A4 underneath.

JakeT

5,425 posts

120 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Cupramax said:
Jonny_gti said:
decent for the money, I thought the 2.8v6 in this would have been the same as the mk4 Golf 4mo lump but it seems its a slightly different unit 190hp with a 30v ? seems strange do these still sound as good as the golf's?
Its the Audi 90 degree 5v V6, so not slightly different, its a completely different engine. These are basically a B5 A4 underneath.
Don't they also share a lot of architecture bits with the C5 A6, also? If so... It's a (very) poor mans RS6!

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Not at that price thanks.

More miles, a lot less money: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

More miles, a little less money but a touch more style: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Edited by DrSteveBrule on Friday 15th September 11:02

Arese1973

51 posts

86 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Had a 1.8T auto estate ten odd years ago. Kept locking me out and not letting me in. Went to get fish and chips one Friday night and ended up with cold fish and chips and a tow home when it wouldn't let me in. Not particularly impressive in any way, when the gearbox starting sending shudders through the car like you were going down a large pothole it was time to get rid. Lost a fortune on it but was still glad to see it go. My estates are now Subaru.

Leins

9,462 posts

148 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Worthy shed, like that a lot. Ticks a lot of boxes for a daily hack

Agreed on battery placement though, have the same issue on my B5 A4, along with all the trim removal to get at it. Regularly have to check the drainage too, silly design

jhonn

1,567 posts

149 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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An informative and amusing write-up. clap

mrpenks

368 posts

155 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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I had a couple of these in diesel flavour as company cars. Never liked them much, a bit average in every area but it was a comfortable long distance drive. I found the similar vintage Mondeo was a much better drive and surprisingly more reliable

mrpenks

368 posts

155 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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I had a couple of these in diesel flavour as company cars. Never liked them much, a bit average in every area but it was a comfortable long distance drive. I found the similar vintage Mondeo was a much better drive and surprisingly more reliable

Drive Blind

5,094 posts

177 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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the advert said:
Here we have
redcard

Roger Irrelevant

2,931 posts

113 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Arese1973 said:
My estates are now Subaru.
Yep - while I'm always interested in a 4WD estate with a decent sized petrol engine, there's no way I'd have one of these over a 3.0 Outback.

Toyoda

1,557 posts

100 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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A few years ago the Passat became the chav car of choice round my way. Is this uninspirational POS really the best shed can find at the new budget?!

Edited by Toyoda on Friday 15th September 11:41

boz1

422 posts

178 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Shed, you up the budget to £1,500 and the best you can do is a knackered Passat with a Halfords radio and an interior that looks like previous owner was murdered in there...?

Poor.

Jonny_gti

289 posts

80 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Cupramax said:
Its the Audi 90 degree 5v V6, so not slightly different, its a completely different engine. These are basically a B5 A4 underneath.
Thanks mate that actually makes sense when I think about it.

tomic

720 posts

145 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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I had one about 12 years ago (a 1.8T). Although it still felt like new (it was 6 years old at the time), it suffered from individual component failure at an alarming rate. Blower Motor, MAF, rusting exhaust that I had to replace twice (including the cat). Other parts like brake hoses and power steering pipes had degraded badly at 6 years old which I've not had on any other car that young. I was constantly paying out on it.

I'm assuming this must be at least 16 years old - maybe these components have all been replaced with upgraded replacements by now, and it might be more reliable but I would't be touching it with a bargepole.