RE: Porsche Cayenne Turbo: Review

RE: Porsche Cayenne Turbo: Review

Friday 27th October 2017

2018 Porsche Cayenne Turbo| Review

Yes, this really is the new one and, yes, it's as predictably accomplished as you might expect



Just a decade and a half ago, the very notion of a Porsche SUV - let alone a class-leading one - was deemed rather silly. Porsche didn't need to be making SUVs, how could it, why should it and so on. Fast forward from 2002 to 2017, however, and not only is the Cayenne perhaps Porsche's most important model, there's a weight of expectation upon it: two generations have set a very high bar, so the shock now would be a duffer from Porsche.

Steady evolution extends to more than 911s now
Steady evolution extends to more than 911s now
It isn't a duffer; sorry to spoil any suspense. It wasn't likely to be, was it? This third-generation car not only uses a platform - the VW group's MLB architecture - that's already proven and it takes a flagship turbo engine and a fantastic interior from the Panamera; combine that with the experience gleaned from the first two Cayennes and you can kind of see where it's going to end up.

Take the styling. This is Porsche evolving a design rather than revolutionising it - works OK for the 911, doesn't it - so it's hard to imagine recent detractors becoming devotees. It has presence, most of which seems to come from the sheer size of the thing - fractionally lower it may be, but the Cayenne is also longer and wider than ever. It will certainly appeal to existing customers and, with more than three quarters of a million of those already out there, Porsche doesn't want to alienate them. And if you think about it, most of these big 4x4s stick with a design philosophy that evolves with time: look at the Audi Q7 and Range Rover, for example.

The most transformative visual change for the Cayenne Mk3 comes inside, where another Porsche button fest has made way for a haptic feedback dash and gigantic 12.3-inch centre screen. The only apparent difference from a Panamera appearing to be the inclusion of an 'offroad' button (annoyingly without a space or a hyphen). Otherwise it's as you were in the saloon and the better for it. Responsive, crisp and fantastically luxurious too, this really is a great cabin/infotainment pairing. Even the new Velar-inspired Range Rover Sport will struggle to compete for both sense of occasion and ease of use.

Is it wrong to enjoy such a huge light bar?
Is it wrong to enjoy such a huge light bar?
It's likely that you will have heard reference to this Cayenne being a family sports car, a five-seat 911 and so on, by now. It's very easy - and correct - to be cynical about those claims, what with this SUV being somewhere in the region of 600kg heavier than the two door coupe. That being said, there is some interesting technology brought across that gives the Cayenne an even greater scope of dynamic ability than before - it really handles every situation expertly well.

For the Turbo Porsche's new three-chamber air suspension is standard, as are Porsche's fancy new Porsche Surface Coated Brakes. Complicating matters is the fact that the test car featured ceramic brakes, rear-wheel steer, electromechanical roll control and torque vectoring. Porsche adding plenty of expensive options to a test car - told you there weren't any surprises here.

Thus equipped, however, the Cayenne Turbo is capable of extraordinary things. Of course it wasn't shabby in either previous iteration, yet now the standard has been raised yet again. A combination of those very clever anti-roll bars, the rear-wheel steer and giant (285-section front, 315-section rear) tyres means the car dives into bends, entry speed seemingly as much of a concern as what level of cooled seat you're enjoying. Lean, roll or understeer simply do not figure on the road, the Cayenne handling like a car many hundreds of kilos lighter. Get on the power early enough and it's the rear tyres that can be felt doing most of the work on corner exit - that will be the torque vectoring doing its job.

Course it's lovely inside - what did you expect?
Course it's lovely inside - what did you expect?
It's comfy too, the air suspension offering bandwidth for whatever kind of drive you're doing. Indeed the normal mode seemed to suit in most situations, the stiffer settings almost eerie for how little the car seemed affected by braking, turning and accelerating. The Porsche Sport Chrono switch, along with individual buttons on the dashboard, makes configuring your ideal set-up fairly simple too.

You'll probably want the powertrain at its most aggressive though, so addictively ferocious is this engine and gearbox combination. Like a Tekken fighter that can both punch brutally hard and kick your head off whilst boasting a great defence, there seemingly isn't a weakness. And it'll bimble around in as high a gear as possible when required.

Borrowed from the Panamera, the twin-turbo V8 is so eager that it's hard to believe - beyond the titanic torque - that there's anything but a whole load of cubic centimetres up front. Buried inside the cylinder vee, the turbos are near-impossible to detect in any regard - the Cayenne simply rumbles up to some indecent speed without delay or fatigue. Furthermore it's not until late on that the gearbox is confirmed as a conventional torque converter; so rapid are the changes it felt for all the world like a PDK. Perhaps the sound of a Range Rover Sport SVR is even richer, though it would be a fairly shallow victory for the Brit bruiser here; the Porsche is more accelerative, uses a better gearbox and will be more efficient too.

Nobody else coming through if you are!
Nobody else coming through if you are!
That becomes part of the problem when comparing the Cayenne to its obvious rivals: while a few can match it in certain areas, it's a struggle to think of anything that can offer such a range of abilities. An XC90 may look better and boast a similarly sumptuous interior, but it won't drive as well. A Range Rover Sport offers a lot dynamically (and more off road), but even its new cabin is unlikely to match the Porsche. One of the AMG SUVs will match it for pace, though with an older chassis and design.

The Cayenne is a very, very hard car to pick fault with. Some people may find the styling a little unimaginative, but that was probably being said about 911s in the 1980s, so it's unlikely to be too much of an issue now. Lower down the range the Cayenne may appear a bit aloof in its preternatural brilliance; however combine its abilities with the bombastic performance offered by the Turbo and the result is a seriously classy - and perhaps class-leading - SUV that will also entertain and engage like the very best. Entirely unsurprisingly then, the Cayenne Turbo is a phenomenally competent and compelling car; whether it's the very best way to spend £100K on a fast family bus we'll hope to answer soon.

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SPECIFICATION | 2018 PORSCHE CAYENNE TURBO
Engine:
3,996cc, twin-turbo V8
Transmission: 8-speed automatic, four-wheel drive
Power (hp): 550@5,750-6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 568@1,960-4,500rpm
0-62mph: 4.1sec
Top speed: 178mph
Weight: 2,175kg (DIN, without driver)
MPG: 23.7
CO2: 272g/km
Price: £99,291

 

 

 

 

 

 


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ivantate

Original Poster:

166 posts

168 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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With no other reference in the images the proportions now don't look like an SUV, but an oversized hatch.
Other than that front end. Not sure why they thought that was OK.

Having said that, I am sure if you want to sit a little bit higher than a car and don't want to cruise around in a Range Rover this is the best one out there. (I am assuming that the Bentley is out of reach and no-one wants to be seen in its anyway)

tgclowes

198 posts

116 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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Looks great inside and out, for me. Was very interested in the last one but I thought the seating position was very off, given my feet were 2ft to the right of my torso.

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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It looks like a panel has fallen off the front end.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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That front end is hideous, looks unfinished....

Plinth

713 posts

88 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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J4CKO

41,532 posts

200 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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Plinth said:
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Cold

15,244 posts

90 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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//Wide mouthed frog joke goes here//

Herbs

4,916 posts

229 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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Looks like it will be a very accomplished car.

Be interesting to see what the switch panels look like after it has been used a couple of time - the back of my Samsung Galaxy spring to mind hehe

Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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Inside = beautiful.
Outside = hideous.

DamnKraut

458 posts

99 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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Looking at the UK retail price this has to be one of the bargains in the Porsche range, relatively speaking of course.

Just to draw a comparison: in Germany prices start at 125k GBP for the Cayenne Turbo

Audemars

507 posts

98 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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Why would people buy this car? If you really like Porsche then get a £3k Lexus RX300 and a used £95k 991 Turbo S. Use the change from £125k to pay for servicing, petrol, insurance etc.

Ares

11,000 posts

120 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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Daft to say, but at £99k, it's a good looking SUV and seems (comparative) decent value.

Friend has just got a RRS SVR. Beautiful, but it should at £108k. It doesn't drive as well as the Mk2 Cayenne though (although looks nicer), and assuming the Mk3 improves the drive, it's a benchmark set.


corcoran

536 posts

274 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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Just out Lexus'd Lexus:

https://ph-classic-prod-images.s3.amazonaws.com/ni...

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Roma101

838 posts

147 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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I assume that price is without options.

Just spec'ed up a Cayenne S on the website as I am quite interested in the Cayenne. £68k starting price ended up at £87k with options and I didn't go crazy (ok, except for the chassis and driving options).

Shame, as the Macan is not quite big enough. Will have to look elsewhere for a large SUV.

cayman-black

12,642 posts

216 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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I really want to like this but i find it ugly and nowhere near as heart pulling as a Range Rover SVR .
As for the interior i,m sure the Porsche is well made and full of leather but again the new SVR looks a class above imo of course.
Look forward to see how these two compare.

h0b0

7,590 posts

196 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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Audemars said:
Why would people buy this car? If you really like Porsche then get a £3k Lexus RX300 and a used £95k 991 Turbo S. Use the change from £125k to pay for servicing, petrol, insurance etc.
I would never drive the 991 if I bought it. I am not going to use a 991 for comuting and the weekends are dominated with gymnastics and football. My kids still need to ride in car seats and it is very rare I drive my car anywhere on my own.

Also, I only have parking for 2 cars. My wife would not be happy if I kicked her car out of the garage as we get snow in feet where I live. It was the strongest reason she gave for not buying another brand sports car that I thought would be a good investment.

I notice other posters call out the front end.I agree that the Turbo version looks a bit open at the front. The previous gen GTS looks like this and I hope they take some styling from it (I admit I am extremely biased because mine looks just like this. I also admit that a cayenne has a face only a mother could love)



I think most of the exterior gains on the new model will be at the back as they were with the panamera. Taking on the Macan rear will benefit it greatly.


It will be the inside that is the biggest step forward though. My car has most options and is like being in the cockpit of a plane. The new version has gone for the much more user friendly touch screen.


Someone else mentioned the driving position. I have only driven left hand drive Cayennes so can't comment. It might be the offset is a function of moving the steering wheel.

Overall,I am very happy this is not a step change like the Range Rover was. Over night the previous gen Range Rover looked extremely dated. So much so, my friend sold his on very quickly. This Porsche doesnt overly date my generation but highlights some of its short comings.




Cheib

23,240 posts

175 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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Ares said:
Daft to say, but at £99k, it's a good looking SUV and seems (comparative) decent value.

Friend has just got a RRS SVR. Beautiful, but it should at £108k. It doesn't drive as well as the Mk2 Cayenne though (although looks nicer), and assuming the Mk3 improves the drive, it's a benchmark set.
I've got a six month old Cayenne S Diesel and had a RRS hire car a couple of weeks...I was pretty shocked at the quality of finish in the RRS....I am sure it's better in the SVR but it was very poor in the 3.0 diesel I drove. RRS was great at wafting down a motorway....a lot less good at going round bends. Current Cayenne's ride is definitely firmer than the RRS even in the softest setting on the Air Suspension but this new one sounds like it's a big improvement.

Murphy16

254 posts

82 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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Those shiny touch buttons look awkward and dangerous to use on the move.

Wills2

22,802 posts

175 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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That would be a stonking car as a daily, some serious performance on offer with a lovely interior as well.


Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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Fantastic machine that Porsche will sell by the boatload. The profits from this and the Macan pay for development of the halo cars so great to see the new model being so good.

At £100k this looks good relative value as well.