RE: Lotus Elise Sport 135: PH Fleet

RE: Lotus Elise Sport 135: PH Fleet

Sunday 26th November 2017

Lotus Elise Sport 135: PH Fleet

Danny tries to make links between his Elise and a very special 911. Sort of succeeds



What could be more tragically ironic than spending seven years of Elise ownership yearning for off-street parking outside my front door, only to close in on this goal with the looming prospect of having to sell the Lotus to fund it. First world problems and all that, but I'm sure many of you have been forced to liquidate a pride and joy to make one of life's more responsible upgrades. And it probably hurt.

Oh yes, and the Porsche 911 in question
Oh yes, and the Porsche 911 in question
Fortunately, the sums seem to have worked in my favour, and it looks like the Elise can stay. That said, I came close enough to the classifieds to realise just how much it's got under my skin over the years.

So, if all goes well, the Elise will soon have its own six metres squared of concrete to sit on, which is probably the most significant upgrade I've bestowed on it in my tenure, and while very exciting from my perspective, intensely dull to the rest of you. So I'm going to mention something that's sure to get the pulse racing; Singer. And, no, not the one that can deliver a precision overlock stitch.

A few weeks ago I got to experience the ultimate unicorn. The re-imagined made very real, parked right outside my office, and entrusted to the hands of a very good friend.

Whichever way you slice it, there's no escaping the potent desirability of a Singer. Whether the particular commission you are lucky enough to see and touch in the flesh is to your particular taste is irrelevant; the sheer beauty draws you in like a traction beam. And because the shape is so familiar, so iconic, you can allow yourself to be drawn in by one of the tantalizing details - the machined Perspex engine cover, the brushed aluminium wing mirrors, the beautifully dished Fuchs rims, the... well you get the idea - without feeling like you're losing sight of the outline. And then you slowly shuffle around its perimeter, visually joining the dots between these features, while the owner, or in this case custodian, shoots regular glances at his watch.

Not a Singer, but lovely details abound
Not a Singer, but lovely details abound
Heaven help you if they open the engine bay, because that's another hour gone, and then, if you're lucky enough to be beckoned inside, you descend into the most perfect Recaro buckets, surrounded by upholstery that's somehow both luxurious yet honest. And your eyes sweep across the period radio to the stubby ball-topped gear lever and simple, slim-rimmed, three-spoke steering wheel, before descending to the delicate CNC pedals.

To look at it is to nourish the eyes, but to ride in it, even sitting in the wrong seat, is to allow the levels of want to spiral out of control. Sadly my ride was just a brief taster, but what I took away was that air-cooled background thrum, a hint of transmission whine, a responsive, inertia-free flywheel, a lack of mass and a car that demands a certain level of competence from its driver.

All of which is unapologetic indulgence, I grant you, but there is also a point to it. Throughout the experience, I couldn't help drawing parallels with something much closer to home; the humble S1. Yes there are numerous, obvious differences, and I don't mind if you think I've taken leave of my senses here, but metaphorically squint a little and essentially you've got two lightweight, manual, effectively rear-engined sports cars that are unequivocally driver-focused.

For a modern supercar the Singer is modestly powered. Likewise, for a contemporary sports car the Elise is puny. For a good lap time, or a smooth, flowing run down a B-road, both require driver skill and a bond between man, or woman, and machine. You can't rely on your right foot and sophisticated electronics to make up for a deficiency in ability. You need to understand its weight balance, respect its shortcomings and learn how to exploit its advantages. On wet days, in the case of the Elise particularly, you have to constantly read the cambers and assess the road surface, which keeps you alert and involved in the process of driving. Sit in a modern car and distractions are everywhere, but the Elise demands your full engagement.

Tiny dimensions shared too!
Tiny dimensions shared too!
A stationary S1 will never take as long to walk around as a Singer, but there are still plenty of design details to savour: the extrusions; the glimpses of that bonded alloy tub; the minimal driver-focused cabin; the Stack display; the fuel filler cap. For a mass-produced car it elevates itself above the hum-drum in the same way that the Singer does.

I could go on, but you probably get the point. And while I agree that it's not the most convincing argument, my brief encounter has left me both hopelessly smitten with the gorgeous Singer, and considerably more appreciative of my little Lotus. So while the former has cemented its place in my dream garage, I'm happier than ever that the latter resides on my actual drive (subject to contract, of course).


FACT SHEET
Car:
1999 Lotus Elise Sport 135
Run by: Danny Milner
Bought: October 2010
Purchase price: £9,500
This month at a glance: Singing the praises of the little Lotus

Previous reports
For speed add lightness, to wallet in this case
Suspension fettling brings results, just in time for the alternator to go pop
Scottish road trip answers 'should I sell?' dilemma
Is it time for the Elise to go?
A cry of alarm from the Lotus - just drive me!
To Goodwood in the Elise
Why is the Elise slower on its new suspension then?
Nitron suspension upgrade for Danny's Elise
Elise shows its displeasure at winter weather
Pilgrimage to Hethel and a lap with handling guru Matt Becker
New wheels on and roof off; to Spa!
Handling's sorted, now surely it's time to go faster
Welcome back again old friend!
Sitting comfortably? There's a lot to get through!

 

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Iamnotkloot

Original Poster:

1,426 posts

147 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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They are both lovely.....

G.Fraser

206 posts

126 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Indeed. Despite pretending to myself, realistically I think I’m too tall to ever be able to consider owning a Lotus frown

996GT3_Matt

199 posts

204 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Couldn’t agree more, I would regularly lose 20 minutes in my garage drinking in my S1. The GT40 inspired bonnet, the swooping bum and mini ducktail.. lovely

At which point my wife would usually poke her head into the garage and ask if I wanted a cup of tea.. time to re-enter the house!

Maldini35

2,913 posts

188 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Cracking car the Sport 135.
I miss mine. It was just so fun to drive.
Fun. Now there’s a thing...
Maybe time to get back into a Lotus.

Mikebentley

6,105 posts

140 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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I drove an S1 maybe 15 years ago and found it a bit rough on anything other than perfect surfaces. I had a Clio 172 at the time that would leave it for dead on most journeys. The thing is though I am genuinely lusting after one now and the silver one in the article is just stunning. I don't generally like silver cars either so I think it is something about the simplicity of the S1.

Sion111R

312 posts

92 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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I have really struggled to bond with anything as much as I have with my S1. As an earlier poster said, it delivers fun in bucketloads. It’s also an absolute hoot driven to the max (of my ability) on track - where it is most definitely at home. I swear if it had a tail it would be wagging it madly as you arrive on track. Erm, anyway....
My S2 111R is supercharged and delivers a very different and faster type of fun.
But if I absolutely had to choose one, based on that “fun” factor which is so hard to describe, the S1 would stay.

Sion111R

312 posts

92 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Gratuitous photo of both. 🙄

bobo79

294 posts

149 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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G.Fraser said:
Indeed. Despite pretending to myself, realistically I think I’m too tall to ever be able to consider owning a Lotus frown
I'm 6'5 and fit fine. It really depends on the relative proportions of your legs and torso. Best way to find out is try sitting in one...

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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I love my Elise S1 Sport 160 and can never see myself selling. I have driven hundreds of cars but nothing (incurring newer and faster Loti) gives me such joy on road and track.

Slideable, driftable and so adjustable on track. Great sound from the Larini too and has more communication than pretty much anything ever made.

My car has Nitron dampers, upgraded brakes, quick shift, Larini CS, carbon induction etc and it is a great car.

I had a Cayman GT4 but ended up selling it as the Lotus blew it away for fun on road.

Next year's upgrades are an ultra close ratio straight cut gearbox, LSD, Tillet B6 seats and some harnesses. Then it is done. For me, the perfect useable road racer.



givablondabone

5,503 posts

155 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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SidewaysSi said:
I love my Elise S1 Sport 160 and can never see myself selling. I have driven hundreds of cars but nothing (incurring newer and faster Loti) gives me such joy on road and track.

Slideable, driftable and so adjustable on track. Great sound from the Larini too and has more communication than pretty much anything ever made.

My car has Nitron dampers, upgraded brakes, quick shift, Larini CS, carbon induction etc and it is a great car.

I had a Cayman GT4 but ended up selling it as the Lotus blew it away for fun on road.

Next year's upgrades are an ultra close ratio straight cut gearbox, LSD, Tillet B6 seats and some harnesses. Then it is done. For me, the perfect useable road racer.


Yes. Yes please. In my favourite colour too.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Thanks. A well sorted S1 is a thing of joy. Mine currently has old, worn tyres and it is a good laugh...

I often think about getting a V6 but I am not sure I will enjoy it half as much. Great car though.

highway

1,955 posts

260 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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What did the op end up doing with regard to engine tuning? It was mentioned in an earlier update but left hanging...

Tickle

4,918 posts

204 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Great 135 Dan

Long'un

93 posts

187 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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bobo79 said:
G.Fraser said:
Indeed. Despite pretending to myself, realistically I think I’m too tall to ever be able to consider owning a Lotus frown
I'm 6'5 and fit fine. It really depends on the relative proportions of your legs and torso. Best way to find out is try sitting in one...
I'm also 6'5'' and I manage. Side mounted Tillett B6's add a fair bit of head and leg room.

G.Fraser

206 posts

126 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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bobo79 said:
G.Fraser said:
Indeed. Despite pretending to myself, realistically I think I’m too tall to ever be able to consider owning a Lotus frown
I'm 6'5 and fit fine. It really depends on the relative proportions of your legs and torso. Best way to find out is try sitting in one...
That’s encouraging to hear, I’m 6’5” too (long legs). I had a sit in an Exige at a recent Sunday Service and although I got in, it was tight and I felt visibility was restricted a bit by the low roof/top of windscreen. As you say though, I can only really know by trying one out. Perhaps it’s not a closed door after all!

KurtB

50 posts

125 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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I have to say the Singer is a thing of pure (unattainable) beauty! My S1 Exige followed an Elise 111S, which in turn was proceeded by a 1969 Europa. There's just something about Lotus DNA! I've had the Exige since 2011 and genuinely believe I'll never part with it.

suffolk009

5,388 posts

165 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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G.Fraser said:
Indeed. Despite pretending to myself, realistically I think I’m too tall to ever be able to consider owning a Lotus frown
I have a 6'4" friend who owns one. Just remove the seat runners and bolt the seat directly to the floor as he did. You won't be able to wear a crash helmet with a roof on should you wish to do track days.

G.Fraser

206 posts

126 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Useful to know, thanks!

CABC

5,575 posts

101 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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SidewaysSi said:
I often think about getting a V6 but I am not sure I will enjoy it half as much. Great car though.
I don't think you will.
V6 is ballistic and awesome, but the s1 is lighter and sweet.
The journos just want max power in a great chassis (V6 or GT4) and normally omit simple fun!

Rich135

769 posts

242 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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I too had a Sport 135 and really miss it. It was pure driving experience and even my wife says it was her favourite car to drive (evidenced by the fact she was still driving it when she was 8 months pregnant - that made for an interesting entry/exit!).

I now have a 1970 Elan +2 which is great in it's own way, but I wish I had space for another Sport 135!!