RE: BMW 640d M Sport Gran Coupe: Spotted

RE: BMW 640d M Sport Gran Coupe: Spotted

Monday 27th November 2017

BMW 640d M Sport Gran Coupe: Spotted

Could this car offer the best bang for your grand-touring buck in the PH Classifieds?



When speccing up your ideal BMW, you'll want to get a few things right.

First, you'll need a large and punchy engine. If it has to be a diesel, and I accept there are circumstances where this is a more logical option for some people, then a 308hp 3.0-litre six should do it. Second, it should be automatic, of course, and, as we're not What Car? here, it should drive through the rear wheels only. Third, it should see off 0 to 62mph in around 5 seconds, waft up to a limited 155mph with ease, return 50mpg, seat four comfortably and preferably have four doors. It should also be as luxurious as humanly possible and, because it's a BMW, it must grip and handle like the very best of sporting saloons.


Enter this gorgeous 640d M Sport Gran Coupe. New, this'll set you back a whopping £67,450. Here, we've found a 2013 example that'll cost you a mere £22,480, which appears to us to be a bit of a bargain. Indeed the one we've found only has 45,000 miles on the clock, has had but one owner from new and comes with a BMW service history. On top of which it seems to have every luxury you could conceivably want, never mind need, and a set of 20-inch alloy wheels, just to make it even better looking.

Not only does it satisfy all of the criteria I outlined at the beginning, the Gran Coupe also has the finest and most consistent shut lines and panel gaps of any car I've studied recently, including other BMWs. That only adds, even if subconsciously, to the impression of quality this big Beemer gives off, heightened in the car we've found by its metallic Carbon Black paintwork.


Okay, so some initially thought it didn't make sense in the Beemer range. It took a two-door coupe and added two extra doors and then charged you a lot more, but that generally is what these four-door coupes do. Some might argue that the higher price was justified by the improvement in proportion, and it's certainly true that this Gran Coupe is a beautifully proportioned old Hector. Its looks are probably worth the price alone, as it looks like a million dollars, although that is a statement I should qualify by letting you know I have never actually seen a million dollars.

At £22,480, though, it makes real sense. It's a great cruiser, a nimble sportscar, a refined and luxurious gentleman's carriage and a classy grand tourer, and it's barely run in.


SPECIFICATION - BMW 640D GRAN COUPE

Engine: 2,993cc, 6-cylinder turbodiesel
Transmission: 8-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 309bhp@4,400rpm
Torque (lb ft): 464@1,500rpm
MPG: 50.5
CO2: 147g/km
First registered: 2013
Recorded mileage: 45,000miles
Price new: £63,900
Yours for: £22,480

See the original advert here

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Chestrockwell

Original Poster:

2,627 posts

157 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Beautiful, I think it’s absolutely outrageous that BMW have now reshuffled their range and discontinued this car. From now on, if you want a 6 series, you get a rebadged 5GT!

What do you see more on the road, 6GC’s or 5GT’s? I don’t see the logic, anybody care to explain?

I hope they don’t do this with the 4GC either

HannsG

3,045 posts

134 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Is there a petrol alternative to this diesel model?

Chestrockwell

Original Poster:

2,627 posts

157 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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HannsG said:
Is there a petrol alternative to this diesel model?
Yes a 640i & 650i

BlueMeganeII

338 posts

159 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Chestrockwell said:
Beautiful, I think it’s absolutely outrageous that BMW have now reshuffled their range and discontinued this car. From now on, if you want a 6 series, you get a rebadged 5GT!

What do you see more on the road, 6GC’s or 5GT’s? I don’t see the logic, anybody care to explain?

I hope they don’t do this with the 4GC either
Are you sure? I thought the GT was simply renamed and added to the 6 series range?

lord trumpton

7,392 posts

126 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Nice cars these.

I clicked on the advert and was faced with the large skyscraper of advert text. Why can't sellers use paragraphs?



BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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BlueMeganeII said:
Chestrockwell said:
Beautiful, I think it’s absolutely outrageous that BMW have now reshuffled their range and discontinued this car. From now on, if you want a 6 series, you get a rebadged 5GT!

What do you see more on the road, 6GC’s or 5GT’s? I don’t see the logic, anybody care to explain?

I hope they don’t do this with the 4GC either
Are you sure? I thought the GT was simply renamed and added to the 6 series range?
The 5 Series GT has been replaced by the 6 Series GT. The 6 series coupe and GC is going to be replaced by the upcoming 8 series.

Mike335i

5,004 posts

102 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Nice enough, but when speccing an 'ideal BMW', it would not be a diesel or an automatic!

Haven't driven one of these, are they nimble? I can imagine it's very planted and very quick point to point.

T16OLE

2,946 posts

191 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Mike335i said:
Nice enough, but when speccing an 'ideal BMW', it would not be a diesel or an automatic!

Haven't driven one of these, are they nimble? I can imagine it's very planted and very quick point to point.
Manuals are not available in any of the range.

Quite honestly, with the ZF there’s no point either.

It’s quick car, but they’re not quick from “point to point’ as you imagine.

I love mine though

Vee12V

1,332 posts

160 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Article said:
because it's a BMW, it must grip and handle like the very best of sporting saloons.
In theory, yes. In reality it's far from sporty.

Ninja59

3,691 posts

112 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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BlueMeganeII said:
Are you sure? I thought the GT was simply renamed and added to the 6 series range?
The 6GT is a complete new car not just rebadged.

Like other posters even my dealer cannot understand the logic of getting rid of the 6 series in F06,F12,F13. From the plans the whole Gran Coupe "concept" seems in question with BMW - that goes for the 4GC as well.

Technically speaking the 8 is no direct replacement for the 6 and operates in a complete different price bracket.

As for the prices quoted in the text total nonsense I know of no one that paid list for these cars and regularly saw 20% off list buying new. So the depreciation is not as bad as many think.

For me the comfort seats are must though over the sports seats.

sidesauce

2,475 posts

218 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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I have a coupe version of this and while I love it, there are some things to bear in mind:-

It's a heavy car therefore consumables like brake pads and tyres will be gone through a lot. Forget the run flats, it's way better/quieter on a P-Zero or equivalent of your choice.

The diesel engine does its thing but it's pretty rattly on start up and I think they synthesise the sound in the car as it sounds WAY better in the cabin than it does outside! That being said, with a light right foot it's surprisingly frugal.

Being such a large car it's inevitable that you'll scrape the wheels at some point, somewhere...

I do however think it's a true wafter and although I'll be replacing it soon I will miss it somewhat; unlike some on here I think it's definitely one of BMW's better modern designs, particularly this Grand Coupe version (and most certainly better than that previous Bangle abortion) and in terms of reliability it's not let me down at all even though I've put almost 100k on mine.

Incidentally Aes87, I believe the chassis of the Rolls Royce is also shared with this car, the F10 5-series as well as the E65 7-series...



Edited by sidesauce on Monday 27th November 09:20

p1stonhead

25,541 posts

167 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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640dGC is going to be my next car I’ve decided. Lovely.

I think it would be perfect for me if the 6 had a hatch like the 4 series GC.



Shame it doesn’t.



Edited by p1stonhead on Monday 27th November 09:25

Wills2

22,804 posts

175 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Ninja59 said:
As for the prices quoted in the text total nonsense I know of no one that paid list for these cars and regularly saw 20% off list buying new. So the depreciation is not as bad as many think.
At points they were knocking 16-18k off them or could be leased for £400-500 a month, typical PH hyperbole quoting the never paid list price to up the click count in the classifieds.



Ninja59

3,691 posts

112 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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sidesauce said:
I have a coupe version of this and while I love it, there are some things to bear in mind:-

It's a heavy car therefore consumables like brake pads and tyres will be gone through a lot. Forget the run flats, it's way better/quieter on a P-Zero or equivalent of your choice.

The diesel engine does its thing but it's pretty rattly on start up and I think they synthesise the sound in the car as it sounds WAY better in the cabin than it does outside! That being said, with a light right foot it's surprisingly frugal.

Being such a large car it's inevitable that you'll scrape the wheels at some point, somewhere...

I do however think it's a true wafter and although I'll be replacing it soon I will miss it somewhat; unlike some on here I think it's definitely one of BMW's better modern designs, particularly this Grand Coupe version (and most certainly better than that previous Bangle abortion) and in terms of reliability it's not let me down at all even though I've put almost 100k on mine.

Incidentally Aes87, I believe the chassis of the Rolls Royce is also shared with this car, the F10 5-series as well as the E65 7-series...



Edited by sidesauce on Monday 27th November 09:20
I would say mine has been bad on brakes 27k in and not needing them yet for another 3k. It does depend on your driving though. Tyres they can be, but they are heavy still (despite having no steel in the body panels (aluminium or composite).

Regarding RR not 100% on the Phantom's chassis, whilst technologies are shared the actual chassis is not. However, the Ghost, Wraith and Dawn do share the chassis with the previous 7 Series (F01 etc.), 6 series (F06,F12,F13), 5 Series (F07, F10,F11) and therefore suffer similar issues.

Another little fact is the Gran Coupe wipers being shared as well with the Ghost, Wraith and Dawn as well...(oddly the coupe and cab 6 series wipers are different).


Edited by Ninja59 on Monday 27th November 09:38

Ninja59

3,691 posts

112 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Wills2 said:
At points they were knocking 16-18k off them or could be leased for £400-500 a month, typical PH hyperbole quoting the never paid list price to up the click count in the classifieds.

How is it hyperbole when BMW were discounting them so heavily?...I have no particular interest in CTR to the classifieds for them even as an owner, and I did clarify that by saying "I know of no one", not that no one ever paid list.

AppleJuice

2,154 posts

85 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Aes87 said:
While I respect this car, I would personally bypass this and go straight to an E65 7 Series (short wheelbase petrol) simply because there has never been such a comfortable car before or since (other than the Phantom, which was of course based upon it). If you can find a facelift 760i (good luck) that is truly the ultimate four door grand tourer. I used to search for this holy grail car every day for years until I finally gave up and started having a can of bitter instead
Not so - the Phantom VII was based upon its own platform and body architecture. Sounds a little bit 'Rover 75 was based on the E34' to me; the Rover 75 also used its own body architecture from the ground up - the R40 platform.

Incidentally, the Phantom VIII's architecture is unique to itself; the same cannot be said of the Ghost, however, which uses a modified F01/F02 platform and shares ~20% of components with the 7-Series.

Is it the Ghost what you were thinking of Aes87?

culpz

4,882 posts

112 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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These look like great all-rounders. I think the styling is fantastic too. It just looks bang-on, as an entire package. I'm also a big advocate of the 3.0 twin-turbo diesel. A petrol would be nice but, in a car this big and heavy, combined with that ZF auto, i actually reckon the 640d is probably the one to go for.

As silly as it may be, i'd stick to the coupe, as apposed to the grand coupe. I just think it looks so much better with less doors. Anyway, if i really wanted to be practical, i'd probably just go for a 5-Series. I'd only be going for the 6 if i wanted something that's a looker and a bit more interesting.

JohnGoodridge

529 posts

195 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Price-wise this isn't a million miles from an early F10 M5. Different league running costs of course, but can't say I wouldn't be tempted.

Uncle John

4,284 posts

191 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Always had a soft spot for these and I'm not a BMW fan.

I think they look and go great. Can't understand why they are discontinuing them.

Ended up going with an E class coupe instead.

edo

16,699 posts

265 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Had one of the first 640d Coupes. Stonking engine. Great interior. Lovely car.