RE: Alpina B5 arrives in the UK for 2018

RE: Alpina B5 arrives in the UK for 2018

Wednesday 3rd January 2018

Alpina B5 arrives in the UK for 2018

Deliveries are beginning now, so if you don't fancy an M5 or E63...



The appearance of the Alpina B5 in our most read road tests of 2017 initially came as something of a surprise, though in hindsight perhaps it shouldn't have. PH loves a fast estate, and the B5 Touring - with a top speed of 202mph - is the fastest production estate in the world. PH also loves a V8, and both Alpinas feature two turbos in addition to an octet of cylinders. That in addition to the fact that PH is fond of BMWs and, while Alpina is a discrete manufacturer, there's a very close relationship with the parent company. It even gets BMW-approved warranties.

Excitingly, UK deliveries of the B5 have now begun. And with nothing new to report on the car, it proffers the perfect opportunity to ponder just what you might do with £90,000 to spend on a super saloon or estate. After all, you're not short of alternatives at the moment...


A Mercedes-AMG E63 would seem like the obvious choice, available as an S variant (because that has the Drift Mode) for £88,490 in four-door form or £90,490 as a wagon. And it has more power than the Alpina. Plus the Drift Mode.

Closer competition comes from the new BMW M5, just £640 more than the Alpina saloon at £89,640. It too boasts a fancier four-wheel drive system than the Alpina, but lacks the niche appeal of the Buchloe bruiser. When was the last time you were carved up or tailgated by an Alpina driver? Exactly.

For better or worse, the latest M5 is unlikely to be produced as a Touring, which means that, as well as the E63, the Alpina Touring lines up squarely against the Audi RS6 for uberwagon supremacy. An RS6 Performance may be an older design than the rest, but it still packs 605hp and a devilishly good soundtrack. Officially it costs £88,345, though deals must surely be easier to come by than with the others.


There's more too, if you're willing to think a little differently. A Porsche Panamera Sport Turismo isn't going to match the B5 Bi-Turbo for outright performance, though it has a lot going for it in terms of desirability and dynamics. A 440hp Panamera 4S Sport Turismo is £93,979. For a saloon-only alternative, the recently launched XJR 575 gets closest to the Alpina's incredible top speed (the Jaguar will do 186mph) and costs £93,710. We probably should entertain the SUV option too, with a £90,280, 525hp Range Rover Sport Autobiography Dynamic yet another fast way to ferry the family about.

A fortunate few look spoilt for choice then, should the B5's compelling blend of performance, luxury, excitement and rarity not quite cut it. That's before you consider the used alternatives, too. Yes, yes, it's not a fair argument, but this is PH and it's hard to resist. There's everything from a Dodge Charger Hellcat to a Tesla Model X available with very few miles, yet there remains the sneaking suspicion that the Alpina might be the very best way to do swift, subtle and spacious. Or is there another option? Over to you...

 

 

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rare6499

Original Poster:

654 posts

139 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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I would take a beautifully specified saloon over an M5. It’s just so much more understated, classy and plain cool.

kambites

67,543 posts

221 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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Shame the couldn't make the interior a bit less... BMW but I suppose that'd be too expensive to change it significantly.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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I like this a lot!

Twoshoe

851 posts

184 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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I'm sure it'll be brilliant, but obviously not quite as good/fast/whatever as a remapped Golf R estate, yawn, waffle, drone...

Edited by Twoshoe on Wednesday 3rd January 17:13

Olf

11,974 posts

218 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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See autotrader. Sytners have a green touring for 108k.

Black S2K

1,470 posts

249 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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^Good find.

What a stupidly big, heavy, overpowered lump.

Why do I find myself strangely drawn to one?

DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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Usual aftermarket looking glued on front bumper.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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love the bit in the article about a discount being easier to achieve on this compared to an M/ AMG etc. Good luck with that!

scenario8

6,558 posts

179 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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Polynesian said:
love the bit in the article about a discount being easier to achieve on this compared to an M/ AMG etc. Good luck with that!
Easier on the soon to be discontinued Audi, was it not?

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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Olf said:
See autotrader. Sytners have a green touring for 108k.
Came here to say the same thing. I would have it for sure

E65Ross

35,048 posts

212 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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Can't understand those saying it's understated compared to the M5?! In what way? It's still got 4 exhausts. It's also got horrible decals on the front splitter alike it's the 1980s.

Nice car, but more understated than the M5? No way!

Edited by E65Ross on Wednesday 3rd January 19:41

Amanitin

420 posts

137 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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DoubleD said:
Usual aftermarket looking glued on front bumper.
how about the rear bumper



that being said I will buy an Alpina over an M every time

Chestrockwell

2,625 posts

157 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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Olf said:
See autotrader. Sytners have a green touring for 108k.
They’re charging a huge mark up, 108 grand with 5k miles, they’re having a laugh aren’t they, who’s going to pay a huge mark up on a fast estate to save 3 months.

I thought dealers weren’t allowed to flip cars!

DanS

1,137 posts

284 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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Chestrockwell said:
Olf said:
See autotrader. Sytners have a green touring for 108k.
They’re charging a huge mark up, 108 grand with 5k miles, they’re having a laugh aren’t they, who’s going to pay a huge mark up on a fast estate to save 3 months.

I thought dealers weren’t allowed to flip cars!
It’s not 3 months. When I drove the green one in December Alpina had sold out of B5 tourings for most of 2018. I’d expect it will be 2019 before you can get into one now

It’s also not a premium, that will be list for that car with options.

PS it’s very, very good. Astonishingly fast, the 4ws disguises the bulk brilliantly and that engine just pulls and pulls.

only1ian

687 posts

194 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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Would love to see a return of the alfa sport-wagon with the ferrari derived V6

Krikkit

26,513 posts

181 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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DanS said:
Chestrockwell said:
Olf said:
See autotrader. Sytners have a green touring for 108k.
They’re charging a huge mark up, 108 grand with 5k miles, they’re having a laugh aren’t they, who’s going to pay a huge mark up on a fast estate to save 3 months.

I thought dealers weren’t allowed to flip cars!
It’s not 3 months. When I drove the green one in December Alpina had sold out of B5 tourings for most of 2018. I’d expect it will be 2019 before you can get into one now

It’s also not a premium, that will be list for that car with options.

PS it’s very, very good. Astonishingly fast, the 4ws disguises the bulk brilliantly and that engine just pulls and pulls.
Link for those wanting an ogle: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Gorgeous.

danielj58

123 posts

174 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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E65Ross said:
Can't understand those saying it's understated compared to the M5?! In what way? It's still got 4 exhausts. It's also got horrible decals on the front splitter alike it's the 1980s.

Nice car, but more understated than the M5? No way!

Edited by E65Ross on Wednesday 3rd January 19:41
The decals are optional (or optional deletes) if I remember correctly, as are the Alpina pin stripes.

Can't argue about the 4 exhausts, but I imagine if you parked it up next to an M5 (or even an M550i) and asked an average punter which cost more/was faster/stood out the most, they'd point at the BMW and not the Alpina. Of course, all subtly is removed by anyone who recognises the badge/wheels/splitter though, where an M550i can be de-badged and made to look nearly indistinguishable from the average 520d M Sport rep mobile. Me thinks if you want subtle, that's the way to go, 450 ponies is more than enough to dispatch most things, and if you're after subtle then top trumps doesn't really matter.

Hairymonster

1,426 posts

105 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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Black S2K said:
What a stupidly big, heavy, overpowered lump.
Don't be so harsh on yourself :-)

Hairymonster

1,426 posts

105 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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Olf said:
See autotrader. Sytners have a green touring for 108k.
It's gorgeous, though I guess it's had the options list thrown at it to cost £108k.

Seriously, the law of diminishing returns kicks in big time with this B5 Estate - I love it and would love to own one, but I'd always have that voice at the back of my mind saying:

530i SE Touring costs £43k - 252hp 0-60 in 6.5 - this is the 4 pot lump

or if you want more cylinders:

540i SE Touring costs £50k - 340hp 0-60 in 5.1 - this is 3 litre 6 pot engine.

You could almost have a 530i and a 540i for the price of the B5, and I guarantee you wouldn't notice the difference for 95% of the time.


Hairymonster

1,426 posts

105 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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only1ian said:
Would love to see a return of the alfa sport-wagon with the ferrari derived V6
Yes, yes and furthermore, yes - Giulia Quadrofoglio estate with 2.9 twin turbo V6 lump. Yes please!!