RE: Volkswagen Golf GTI Mk5: Spotted

RE: Volkswagen Golf GTI Mk5: Spotted

Thursday 15th February 2018

Volkswagen Golf GTI Mk5: Spotted

The saviour of the Golf GTI, now from £4k...



It's difficult to overestimate the importance of the Mk5 Golf GTI, both to the credibility of the 'GTI' badge and to VW's reputation overall. Since the passing of the Mk2 in the early 90s, the successive GTIs had been crap; there was a glimmer of hope in the shape of the Corrado, though of course that borrowed heavily from the old Golfs. The Polo GTIwas tepid, the equivalent Lupo was stylish but ordinary to drive and there was a real concern that VW simply might not be able to make a fun car again. The creators of the genre looked to be heading out of the game.

You'll no doubt be aware of that context already, though it does bear worth repeating. Now we expect a modern VW Group hot hatch to have a disarmingly broad range of talents, which simply wasn't the case a couple of generations back. If the Mk5 had been a spudder too, who would have given VW another chance after more than a decade of hot hatch mediocrity?


Of course we all know that it wasn't: zesty, desirable, fast and entertaining, the £20k Mk5 was everything a modern Golf GTI should have been and all that the Mk3 and 4 hadn't been. Sales and plaudits flooded in, the GTI drawing praise from all quarters - hallelujah, VW could make a hot hatch once more.

As well as banishing memories of previous duffers, the Mk5 Golf GTI set the template for future versions too; the Mk6 was less fondly received than the 5 (despite lots of shared stuff), but the Mk7 was right back at the sharp end on its 2013 introduction, with just 20hp more than the Mk5 and a not-dissimilar look. Indeed just last month Autocar awarded the current 'Mk7.5' the title of best hot hatch ever, and it's difficult to imagine that happening without the Mk5.

It's a pretty big deal, then. And like all the good Golf GTIs, the Mk5 sold healthily and has now depreciated to an alluringly low level. Remember when the Mk1s and Mk2s did that, before they became classics? What it means for Mk5s, though, is that very presentable cars like this one are available for just £4,000.

As far as specs go for a Golf GTI, this 2005 car is very good: manual gearbox, tartan upholstery and 18-inch wheels. Five doors may put some off, but it should be noted that good three-door manuals are unsurprisingly quite hard to get hold of. It's had a very recent cambelt change (as in less than 5,000 miles ago), a new clutch and has a year's MOT. Sure, a freshen up of a few more consumables would probably be a good idea, but which 100,000-mile car wouldn't benefit from that? This looks as good a start as any, as long as we assume that the missing interior pics have simply been innocently forgotten...


Don't go thinking, either, that the GTI's contemporaries have plummeted further: £4k remains the entry point for both the Astra VXR and five-cylinder Focus ST. In addition, you can pay more money than this Golf for an older Audi S3 based on the Mk4 Golf. And why would you do that?

Sadly rust is a known issue on these Golfs (as highlighted out in the PH Buying Guide), so that has to be a key inspection point on any prospective purchase. Again, though, name a car that hasn't presented problems later in life. What's on offer here is a seemingly fine example of a fine hot hatch, one that, if cared for properly, should always be in demand later in life. The 15th anniversary of the Mk5 Golf GTI is next year, so classic status can't be far off, can it?


SPECIFICATION - VOLKSWAGEN GOLF GTI

Engine: 1,984cc, 4-cyl turbo
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 200@5,100rpm
Torque (lb ft): 207@1,800-5,100rpm
MPG: 35.3
CO2: 189g/km
First registered: 2005
Recorded mileage: 101,000
Price new: £19,995
Price now: £4,000

See the full advert here.

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Murphy16

Original Poster:

254 posts

82 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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Looks like a decent, cheapish all rounder

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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Our Octavia VRS of similar vintage and mileage is still plodding along happily. You couldn't call it exciting but it does the "dull but worthy family car" thing very well and has enough grunt to be very easy to drive.

HardMiles

318 posts

86 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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There’s no better way to say, I’ve absolutely no imagination and I don’t like excitement...

Welshman Adam

72 posts

212 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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Had an Edition 30 for 2 years, sold it in 2015 and still miss it. Great cars once you've sorted the "common faults" out.

thecremeegg

1,964 posts

203 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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HardMiles said:
There’s no better way to say, I’ve absolutely no imagination and I don’t like excitement...
Not driven one then? We have one, great car, especially for £4-5k!
Add a remap for £300 and it'll see off most challengers!

tomkingshott

54 posts

145 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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currently own a silver 3dr manual myself. Its nothing special in terms of spec but I picked it up on 78k for under 5k in late 2016, I was amazed at how cheap they had become, (that or I got a bit lucky). People always say about VW's having check engine lights and stuff but to date this has been my most reliable car, low owners low mileage and a massive stack of paperwork to go with it. My only criticism of it is that fully standard it's boring, it seems unfair comparing it against my old cars being a mk1 focus rs or my focus st which had 350bhp but it just doesn't have any real "fun factor" to it. yeah its nippy enough handles better than my st ever could but I still find it boring to drive. But the more I think about this the more i'm tempted to add some goodies and get it mapped to give it a bit more punch which would undoubtedly make it more fun.

on the plus side however it's very good on fuel for a "hot hatch" I quite regularly get mid-high 30's driving it around weekly. It's not an amazing car but it certainly isn't the worst i've driven either, makes a reasonably good daily driver

Edited by tomkingshott on Thursday 15th February 10:08

culpz

4,882 posts

112 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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Great all-rounders. I like them apart from the plastic rear bumpers. However, that can easily be rectified.

Keeping on top of the maintenance can see them go on for some time!

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=15...

ZX10R NIN

27,598 posts

125 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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Nice cars but the Focus ST was the better car IMO but that's the joys of choice.

JackReacher

2,127 posts

215 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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Good all round cars but not particularly exciting, was glad to get out of my 2005 GTi and into a 350z at the time, which cost about the same used.

Never understood the edition 30 hype, same car with a bit more power, often mapped and thrashed by point and squirt drivers.

mooseracer

1,885 posts

170 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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thecremeegg said:
HardMiles said:
There’s no better way to say, I’ve absolutely no imagination and I don’t like excitement...
Not driven one then? We have one, great car, especially for £4-5k!
Add a remap for £300 and it'll see off most challengers!
I had one for 3 years and 50k, remapped for most of it, Great car when new and I've no doubt they still are today. Yes, they're no R26R but they weren't intended to be and they are still more than capable of an exciting drive. I'm not sure how anyone could claim otherwise.

Turbobanana

6,265 posts

201 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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HardMiles said:
There’s no better way to say, I’ve absolutely no imagination and I don’t like excitement...
Perhaps a bit harsh, although I kind of agree - and without the GTI wheels it just looks like white goods. There's a guy who parks near where I do that has an Edition 30: it always looks a bit dowdy, even when it's clean. Yellowing headlight lenses don't help...

Trophy-GTA

101 posts

98 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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thecremeegg said:
Not driven one then? We have one, great car, especially for £4-5k!
Add a remap for £300 and it'll see off most challengers!
So it’s quick then. Still boring though.

BFleming

3,605 posts

143 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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Reading this article & seeing that Mk5 GTI could be had for as little as £4k... I thought it was a misprint & should read 'as much as £4k'.They can be had cheaper than £4k, but probably not from a dealer - the source of advertising revenue for pistonheads, hence the shameless plugs for traders that spend their money with Haymarket group.
The descriptive powers of the person that wrote the ad is woeful. So whilst Matt Bird says the spec is 'very good', he's basing his opinion on the fact that it has a manual gearbox (or 'the standard gearbox'), Tartan upholstery (again, standard) and the 18in alloys (ok, I'll give him that one). As there are no interior pictures, and a distinct lack of words in the ad, who knows what else it has. Or doesn't have.
Mk5 GTI's are a specification dependent beast as so many were ordered as company cars & had zero extras - no leather/Cruise Control/multifunction steering wheel, basic audio, base 17in wheels. I think I'd prefer to sit in heated leather. A sunroof wouldn't influence me either way.
The one extra I wouldn't want ticked would be the DSG gearbox; unfortunately that was probably the most commonly ticked option. Great when new, but the thing of nightmares over a decade down the road, partly due to maintenance neglect, partly due to the complexities of that particular shifting arrangement. As a result the cheapest GTI's come with 2 pedals and a price tag also beginning with a 2.

Rich Boy Spanner

1,311 posts

130 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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Seeing this has made me realise how long it is since I have seen a MK5 GTi. They all seemed to be getting endlessly thrashed, so maybe most of them died.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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ZX10R NIN said:
Nice cars but the Focus ST was the better car IMO but that's the joys of choice.
Thirstier, shoutier, but yes more fun and a great noise.

Both are great choices, as is the Megane R26 at this price point.

Jon_S_Rally

3,403 posts

88 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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I quite like these. Nice car for the money.

I found the intro a bit odd though. It seemed to slate all '90s VW products but, as I recall, road testers were quite fond of some of them. The Golf VR6 got decent reviews, and I don't seem to remember the 16v GTI being slated wildly, while people appear to covet the Lupo GTI like it's an E-type.

andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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I really enjoyed the 7 years I spent with a MK5 GTI, bought new in 2006. I'd agree that it's not the most exciting car, but I'd argue that it wasn't really ever meant to be. Mine was pretty much faultless in the time I owned it, and proved to be the perfect car to transport a family around in, and have a bit of fun in from time to time.

WCZ

10,523 posts

194 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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a remap is a must, great value for money although i'd go for a focus st

LordHaveMurci

12,042 posts

169 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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Considered an R26, ended up buying a 55 plate Mk5 GTi, this was 9.5yrs ago - kept it for 9mths which is the shortest I've owned a functioning car for.

As others have said, they are a great all rounder but by God, they are boring!

The rare one I spot these days has normally been barried in some way, not as bad as most VW products admittedly.

Mr Peel

480 posts

122 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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Brilliant cars - love mine (2005 3-door manual, 90k). They aren't exciting enough for some of the driving gods on here mind you...