JLR Classic Defender V8 | UK Review
Have 70 years and £150,000 been enough to perfect the venerable off-roader? We found out...
Luckily for Mrs Cackett senior I happened to be the bloke on the ground, not Nic, and managed to grab a five-mile punt through Geneva's back-blocks in the new toy. It was a bit of a surprise. A Defender will always be a Defender - what with the cramped driving position and all - but the Recaro seats, an eight-speed ZF auto and enough velvety grunt for a 5.6 second 0-60mph time - plus an unimpressive 106mph top speed, which shows how bad those aerodynamics really are - make this a really engaging vehicle, at least for those of a filthy rich persuasion.
Somebody called this "the Defender as it always should have been" which is stretching the friendship somewhat because you've got to spend silly money to have a Landie as good as this. You can do lots of creative things with £150k. But there is a feeling, once you've driven that Classic, that JLR's engineers have zeroed in on the the weakest spots of the Defender, and discovered how to fix them, all in time for the 70th anniversary. Better late than never...
Land Rover Defender V8 - Specifications | |
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Engine | 4,999cc, V8 |
Transmission | 8-speed automatic, all-wheel drive |
Power (hp) | 405@6,000rpm |
Torque (lb ft) | 380@5,000rpm |
0-60mph | 5.6 sec |
Top speed | 106 mph |
Weight | TBC |
MPG | TBC |
CO2 | TBC |
Price | from £150,000 |
Steve Cropley
Had my name (and deposit) down with a dealer when there were rumours of a V8 last hurrah back in 2014/2015... zero interest in paying £150k for one of these re-manufactured ones.
The standard TDCi is slow and deeply flawed, but it makes no attempt to hide what it is and has tremendous character as a result. Have the cash and want a V8 or travel in greater comfort? There's the FFRR... or a 50th. I know where my money would go.
When the parts are set to be manufactured, the tooling is brought in and set up and parts start being made. This usually requires a degree of tinkering and perfecting; in the case of the Defender, a great deal. Once an acceptable part is produced, quality will sign it off as acceptable and a batch of parts will be manufactured.
I've lost hours of my life attempting to sign off Defender components, only to find various different issues, preventing sign off. Rubbish tooling is usually to blame.
When the parts are set to be manufactured, the tooling is brought in and set up and parts start being made. This usually requires a degree of tinkering and perfecting; in the case of the Defender, a great deal. Once an acceptable part is produced, quality will sign it off as acceptable and a batch of parts will be manufactured.
I've lost hours of my life attempting to sign off Defender components, only to find various different issues, preventing sign off. Rubbish tooling is usually to blame.
The standard TDCi is slow and deeply flawed, but it makes no attempt to hide what it is and has tremendous character as a result.
Makes the Defender the vehicle it should have been, at least from a power perspective!
If the driver wants a car that can do silly speeds and quick acceleration, then they can always go for a Jaguar. But a Defender is meant to be thrown off road, not on road.
If the driver wants a car that can do silly speeds and quick acceleration, then they can always go for a Jaguar. But a Defender is meant to be thrown off road, not on road.
While I love this, there is no way you can reasonably claim it's the Defender it should always have been. Silly piece of journalism.
too late
too much
how can any company justify charging £150k for that?!
so it pushes power up to 400bhp and sorts out some sloppy steering, adds new brakes / gearbox and tweaks the suspension - finishes it with some leather inside... If you add up those costs you might just get to half the selling price... I am having a new engine built for my RRC - c. £3-4k cost we are aiming at 300bhp with good torque, but it wouldn't have been that challenging to get it to 400 / 500 bhp etc.
A Chevy LS7 7.0litre / 500+bhp is here for £13k: http://www.partsworldperformance.com/ls7-v8-crate-...
how exactly do they get to £150k?!
bizarre what people will pay!
Interesting thing to muse over though, JLR design, engineer and bolt together in the main, suppliers make the parts. When parts fail due to quality then JLR get the blame not the supplier which is not correct.
Had my name (and deposit) down with a dealer when there were rumours of a V8 last hurrah back in 2014/2015... zero interest in paying £150k for one of these re-manufactured ones.
The standard TDCi is slow and deeply flawed, but it makes no attempt to hide what it is and has tremendous character as a result. Have the cash and want a V8 or travel in greater comfort? There's the FFRR... or a 50th. I know where my money would go.
People have been slotting V8s into Defenders for years. There are also companies who have installed the 6Sp box from the D3 along with the 2.7TDV6 too. The LS1 engined Defenders are pretty awesome and they are £90k.
If you wanted a V8 Defedner, I recon you could have found a company to build you one for £50k using a TDCI as a base or maybe a late TD5. Nicer interior on the TDCI though.
As a long term LR fan and an owner of two (Always need one spare), I don't have a lot of love for this £150k collectors piece (Which is what it is) LR will keep two or three and I'd imagine the rest have already been sold to collectors all over the world. Several top china and the UAE probably.
LR should have done this build years ago years ago. There was a rumour going round that an un-named dealer bought a load of the Defender 90s in the last months of production. I'm wandering if this is what they were for.
What's wrong with stating 4WD ?
There's a difference here...?
Newsflash: It's 4x4, too.
As for the ride improving - do we think that might be something to do with the suspension now being uselessly st off-road? Those wheels certainly will be.
Just asking
150 grand for a second hand Land Rover with a big engine, there must be a market so fair play to them but I can think of a million better things to spend 150 large on, even if I was remotely bothered about farm machinery, cant you get your own and do something similar for a lot less money, cant see where 150 grand has gone ?
FFS get on with making a new one, though everyone knows it will be a bit too "lifestyle", it really wont be for farmers, the military and those that lift on the side of hills, they buy Japanese these days I guess, so the market is now for expensive playthings for those who other high end SUV's are a bit passe, no thanks on the X5M, Cayenne Turbo or similar, I will have a really fast version of the old utility one, sort of like the idea but its like mobile phones, run out of the normal expensive options, get a Vertu, not cutting edge as a phone, generally worse than something cheaper but the plebs cant afford them and you can ring a man to get you an Irish Coffee at 3 am and get it delivered to their bedroom.
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