RE: Shed of the Week: Honda Accord Type R

RE: Shed of the Week: Honda Accord Type R

Friday 9th March 2018

Shed of the Week: Honda Accord Type R

2018 marks 20 years since the hot Accord's introduction, so how better to celebrate than with this marvellous Shed?



No, it's not April 1st, and no, your eyes are not deceiving you. That is indeed an Accord Type R you're looking at. An Accord Type R with an MOT, no mechanical or rust issues that we're aware of, and a Shed-qualifying price of £1,450.

And they said Man would never fly.

Actually, what they did say in the forum for last week's SOTW column was that you would never find a Type R Accord in the cheap seats, not any more. And yet, as if by magic, just one week later here it is. Nobody's saying this one is perfect - the bodywork isn't dent-free, and the mileage isn't low - but can you see any major problems?


Younger readers may think we're getting carried away here. After all, how good can an Accord be? Why did Honda even decide to wave the Type R wand over such a boring car, you might be saying? Well, there was some BTCC heritage there, back in 1998 when Alain Menu was in the Renault Laguna, Warwick and Cleland were in the Vectra and Nigel Mansell was sort of in the Mondeo.

Prodrive ran the 'works' Honda Accord effort with James Thompson, who scored a few wins in it in the '98, '99 and 2000 seasons, and his sometime teammate Peter Kox went on to do pretty well with it in the 2000 European Super Touring championships. But the road car that came out of it was arguably the high point of the whole 'hot Accord' story. Honda managed to turn an excellent but essentially worthy family car into a fizzing, sparkling and generally brilliant fast saloon that was also still an excellent family car, on demand and as required.


The H22A7 redtop 2.2-litre VTEC motor is, predictably, an absolute belter. There's not much torque - just 164lb ft at 6,700rpm - but getting to the 217hp at 7,200rpm via the 'kick in' at just over 5,000rpm is a joyous exercise that never gets old, even if the gearing is just a fraction too long for optimal powerband hopping.

A great engine wasn't all you got. The chassis was stiffer, the suspension lower, the wheels bigger. There was a snickety gearbox topped by a metal knob, quite the thing at the time, a proper limited-slip diff, proper hydraulic power steering, Xenon lights, superb Alcantara Recaro seats and a leather Momo wheel. The boot spoiler was an option box that most buyers ticked.

Our Shed seems to have lost its original gearknob, which might be tricky to replace if you're looking to restore this car to originality, but the rest of it looks pukka and the MOT history gives no cause for concern. We won't bother to go through what might go wrong as there is a much more detailed look at that already in place on PH in the form of Al Suttie's excellent and comprehensive Buying Guide. In short though it's a strong machine with relatively cheap suspension consumables and 30mpg in most kinds of use. The cambelt runs on a 72k/eight-year change schedule, and it's really worth using (and regularly refreshing) decent oil. Fifth gear synchro has been known to wear prematurely. Otherwise it's all good.

See the original ad here

Here's my 2001Honda accord type R, have had this car a year and the plan was to keep it as I've always wanted to scratch the vtec honda itch but a company car has forced me to sell to free up space on the driveway.

MOT till September 2018

Full mongoose exhaust system with catalytic converter still, not too loud but makes a great sound.

K&N typhoon induction system with filter placed low in engine bay makes a great sound!

Interior is extremely clean considering mileage with only the drivers seat bolster wearing slightly

Exterior as a whole is clean but a dent in boot near the lock and few scratches, nothing horrendous.

Part service history with last service been completed in October 2017.

Rust has been repaired on bulkhead, common place for accords.

Have priced which i think is sensible, the mileage is high but has been cared for with no smoke on vtec and no rattles and knocks in engine. Really is a good car and in truth im sad to see it go!

These cars are getting rare and finding a nice clean one is getting harder to find now.

   
 

 

 

 

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Cambs_Stuart

Original Poster:

2,865 posts

84 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Fantastic SOTW. There's got to be something wrong with it.
If not I suspect it won't be available for long.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Bulkhead probably rusted to buggery. Love these cars though...

Brompty

153 posts

144 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Looks like a great SOTW, although mileage and mods would make me a little wary.

exgtt

2,067 posts

212 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Brilliant project/track slag for someone.

2smoke

216 posts

111 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Great shed this week! MOT history looks a bit flaky but to be expected considering the age/mileage.

Nors

1,291 posts

155 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Test drove one of these many moons ago. I did like the car but I remember at the time thinking it was too hard to drive on 'normal' roads due to the nature of the engine and gearbox.

To get the best out of it you had to rev it (vtec -no surprise there) but change up gear at 8450 rpm instead of 8500rpm at it would momentarily drop out of the power band which could be quite scary when overtaking a lorry on an A road. Found myself watching the rev counter too much as I wasn't able to do it by listening to the engine note, being unfamiliar with the car.

I'm sure once you 'tuned in' to the characteristics of it's engine and gearbox, you would overcome that and be able to change at the sweet spot (without trying to watch the rev counter) to get the best out of it.

At the time I remember thinking great track car, hard work and fuel greedy to extract the best from it as a daily user although it was very plesant when just driving normally, if not a bit slugglish.

Still something about it though!

kellyt

158 posts

119 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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No rust issues? The MOT history contains all of the key phrases that heralded the demise of two of my three Hondas, excessive corrosion around suspension mounting areas. That's usually MOT speak for not much underbody left to hang the components on any more.

Interesting cars in their day, but unless someone is okay with the current MOT very possibly being the last it ever sees, or being extremely nifty with a MIG welder, then it'd not be on my shed list.

Blackpuddin

16,507 posts

205 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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He says the bulkhead has been repaired though?

samoht

5,703 posts

146 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Sounds like it could be an offer of six months of fun over the summer, then scrap it and put the drivetrain into an Elise or similar over the winter ;-)

s m

23,222 posts

203 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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One of these is featured in a twin test with the Octavia Vrs in Modern Classics this month. Looks nice in the red colour.
I drove one at one of the CCIA days at Donington last millenium. A few weeks prior I'd driven the Primera P11 GT and they felt remarkably similar to drive re handling etc, just the the Accord had that extra kick at the top end

Edited by s m on Friday 9th March 08:21

Fetchez la vache

5,572 posts

214 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Crikey.Top shed. Alarm bells are ringing in my ears with this, but nevertheless...

99dndd

2,082 posts

89 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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exgtt said:
Brilliant project/track slag for someone.
Wrap it in the BTCC livery.


Matt_N

8,901 posts

202 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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I had an ATR for 3 years and loved every minute of it, except when the head gasket went, that was a bad day and cost me £1000 to put right.

But other than that I adored it, the engine whilst not massively torquey still pulled well and when you engaged VTEC you felt as if you were in a Super Tourer racing against John Cleland and the like.

The chassis was superb, just point it at a corner then use the diff to drag you out the other side, amazing how quickly it could take a few of the roundabouts around here.

kellyt

158 posts

119 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Blackpuddin said:
He says the bulkhead has been repaired though?
Not the bit of the car that would worry me most though. The rear arches, the sill boxes in front of them, all the steel in the inner arch. It was all on a mission to disappear in my Hondas.

I'm sure it's a fun car to drive and the usual Honda mechanical excellence, but a lot of rust has gone under the bridge since it was new.

Valgar

850 posts

135 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Hot damn that's a good find, going against bangernomics, but if you were to give it some TLC you've got a future classic on your hands

Jonny_gti

289 posts

80 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Very decent shed indeed, syncros on the gearbox maybe a worry but easy fixed and he mentioned the rust on the bulkhead been attended too, recently I've seen a few ATR around the 2k mark so not too surprised by this. cracking cars for the money H22 lump is a beast!

culpz

4,882 posts

112 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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SidewaysSi said:
Bulkhead probably rusted to buggery. Love these cars though...
Other than the advert saying it's been repaired, you mean wink

These look fantastic and it's a bit sad to call it a shed. This is the cheapest one i've seen for a while in not bad nick. Quire a rare find too. Last one i saw on AT was a red one which looked an absolute state and the seller was asking for over 2 grand for the pleasure. It makes this one look pristine.

Someone get it bought!

Turbobanana

6,262 posts

201 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Most boring SOTW for ages.

Not the car - that looks great. The write-up however, reads as though Shed has had his wings clipped (probably by Mrs Shed when she heard him muttering something about a knob gone missing).

PoopahScoopah

249 posts

125 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Wow! When someone commented in last week's SOTW that you could pick up an ATR for shed money I ho estly thought they were just trolling!

This will be in the shortlist for SOTY come Dec.

Plate spinner

17,696 posts

200 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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samoht said:
Sounds like it could be an offer of six months of fun over the summer, then scrap it and put the drivetrain into an Elise or similar over the winter ;-)
That would be my thinking.
Breaking it for parts and the drivetrain is where the £1500 value is in this car.