RE: Ferrari 412: Spotted

RE: Ferrari 412: Spotted

Saturday 24th March 2018

Ferrari 412: Spotted

Long the poor relations of the Ferrari family, it's time for the three-box V12s to come in from the cold



Isn't it nice when, just occasionally, one can have a little look through the classified ads at a classic car or two and go, 'Actually, that's not a stupid price'? Granted, it happens rarely these days. But just now and again, a surprise can come at you from the unlikeliest quarter.

Take this Ferrari 412, for example. It's on for £39,995 which is, of course, a significant chunk of money for most people. However, in light of the fact a Ford Sierra can easily cost you significantly more these days, it doesn't seem preposterous.

The 412 - and its predecessors, the 365 GT4 2+2 and 400i - have, for a long time, been the black sheep of the Ferrari family. Blame the fact they're front-engined V12s that don't look like your typical Ferrari; blame the fact that 70 per cent of those sold were automatics; blame the fact that they're cruisers at heart, and therefore don't steer or handle with the same finesse as their stablemates. Either way, these models have languished at the bottom of the Ferrari desirability tree for ages.


But while they might not look like typical Ferraris, you wouldn't kick them out of bed for farting. OK, so the angular, vaguely skeletal front end is a bit of an acquired taste, although some might argue even that has mellowed with time from 'ugly' to merely 'unmistakeable'. But the side profile is elegance personified, while the tail takes those iconic Ferrari donut lights and applies them to a graceful notchback. Few grand tourers of the period had quite this combination of louche presence and understated beauty.

As the culmination of the series, the 412 is reckoned these days to be the best all-rounder, and its fuel injection, anti-lock brakes (the first road-going Ferrari so-equipped) and enlarged boot made it arguably the most useable of the lot. Under the bonnet, the quad-cam, fuel-injected V12 was bored out to 4.9 litres from the 400i's 4.8, making it good for 340hp and a 0-62mph time of 8.3 seconds in automatic form.


Indeed, seeing the 412 for what it was is crucial to understanding why it's such an underrated beast. The V8 sports cars and 12-pot supercars might have grabbed all the limelight, but here was a four-seat grand tourer which excelled in the role for which it was designed, all the while oozing such class and power that it made lesser GTs like the Jaguar XJS and BMW 6 Series look and feel ordinary.

Yet these days, a BMW 635CSi with similar mileage won't cost you a whole heap less. And let's face it: while the big Six is undoubtedly lovely, it's still essentially a pretty body draped over a 5 Series, while the 412 is a genuine Ferrari.


Then again, perhaps that's the reason, for with a genuine Ferrari comes the sort of repair bills a genuine Ferrari incurs. You'll need to carry out a major service every 12,000 miles, for example - and without any additional work, that will set you back at least £2,500, if not more.

Happily, this one's just had that done fairly recently, along with several other bits and pieces; what's more, there's a big chunk of service history to back up the low mileage. None of which will protect you completely from those potentially terrifying bills, but will hopefully allow you to enjoy the car for at least a short while before another crops up. Indeed, we're struggling to find a reason why £40k isn't - brace yourselves - actually quite a sensible price for this tidy, classy and extremely usable classic Ferrari. Anyone?


SPECIFICATION - FERRARI 412

Engine: 4,943cc V12
Transmission: three-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 340@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 333@4,200rpm
MPG: 15.4
CO2: N/A
First registered: 1988
Recorded mileage: 36,000 miles
Price new: £71,760
Yours for: £39,995

See the original advert here.

 

 

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LewisR

Original Poster:

678 posts

215 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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I love these. IMO, a Ferrari for those that don't like Ferraris.
I love the styling, that it's SD1-esque (both from Daytona's styling, probably) and that it's a FWD V12.
You could also probably get away with parking it almost anywhere and no one really knowing what it is. Definitely would rather have this than a 3-door Cosworth, except when it comes to repairing it.

Esceptico

7,463 posts

109 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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Didn’t like them when they were new and the shape hasn’t grown on me since. The 0-60 is pretty unimpressive too for a V12 Ferrari.

I expect dynamically it isn’t great either. I have driven the much prettier 512 BB. That was a case of don’t meet your heroes because to drive it just felt very old.


Johnspex

4,342 posts

184 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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LewisR said:
I love these. IMO, a Ferrari for those that don't like Ferraris.
I love the styling, that it's SD1-esque (both from Daytona's styling, probably) and that it's a FWD V12.
You could also probably get away with parking it almost anywhere and no one really knowing what it is. Definitely would rather have this than a 3-door Cosworth, except when it comes to repairing it.
RWD not FWD.

Venturist

3,472 posts

195 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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These are a couple of well done Instagram posts/Petrolicious type features away from doubling in value inside a year, I’m sure of it.

rodericb

6,736 posts

126 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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These things are awesome. Like the ultimate cold war era car - big, expensive, complicate and drawn up on an easel with rulers. And with the power to cost a chunk of a countrys' GDP to run and maintain.

Johnspex said:
LewisR said:
I love these. IMO, a Ferrari for those that don't like Ferraris.
I love the styling, that it's SD1-esque (both from Daytona's styling, probably) and that it's a FWD V12.
You could also probably get away with parking it almost anywhere and no one really knowing what it is. Definitely would rather have this than a 3-door Cosworth, except when it comes to repairing it.
RWD not FWD.
You're on the ball today!

CharlieAlphaMike

1,137 posts

105 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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I don't know why people have such a low opinion of these Ferrari's. I really like them smile

Esceptico

7,463 posts

109 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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Venturist said:
These are a couple of well done Instagram posts/Petrolicious type features away from doubling in value inside a year, I’m sure of it.
Not sure. These have been touted as the bargain Ferrari that are “too cheap” for at least a decade.

If you are going go expose yourself to hideous bills then go for the 456. Much better looking and actually good to drive. Almost bought one but came to my senses and got another 911 (yes boring). Eventually scratched the Ferrari itch with a 360 CS

Gameface

16,565 posts

77 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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Few years back at a country pub, we were sitting in the beer garden and a dark blue one of these pulled in.

But what really piqued my interest was the fact the driver was taking his whole family out for lunch in it. Wife and two youngish kids.

Very cool Sunday family transport, I thought.

TR4man

5,226 posts

174 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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I know that I'm in a very small minority but I actually liked the shape of them when new and even more so now. Still can't afford one though.

suffolk009

5,385 posts

165 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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Should I remind younger readers that the 412 is traditionally the barometer for the classic car market collapse?

As soon as they start getting favorable reviews, and the prices start to firm up a bit, then the whole market is mere months away from a major correction.

73RS

71 posts

208 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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Always loved these. But £2500 for a service is out of my league - then again I wonder how many miles these cars average a year? Might only have to service it every 5 years. Knew I could rationalise it somehow.

Turbotechnic

675 posts

76 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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As a youngster I didn't like the 400i/412i but looking at this with a more mature petrol head on and I must say that is a great looking car. Will these be the next rocket ship in terms of value now that its predecessors are fetching 500k+?

irocfan

40,428 posts

190 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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TR4man said:
I know that I'm in a very small minority but I actually liked the shape of them when new and even more so now. Still can't afford one though.
This ^^^

ghost83

5,477 posts

190 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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I’ve always liked them

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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Cool as ice, what a great way to move the family around. I’d have one if I had another £40k spare for the fuel and bills.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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I think this is car that has dated quite well, but clearly not a looker in the traditional sense.

It's also slow, proper slow. Today, it simply won't see which way a basic 4-pot 520d went.

Servicing looks crippling and got know what the damage to your wallet if anything broke.

Am oddball, not one you want to drive, but note collectable enough to tuck away?

That said, I like it.

Edited by Helicopter123 on Saturday 24th March 09:35

AMGSee55

633 posts

102 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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Love the shape of these, if I had the means i’d have a 400 manual in a heartbeat

probably chalk

671 posts

192 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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For me it's the definition of cool. But like much that is cool it is also quite silly. And therefore very cool.
Much like anything from DeTomaso for example.

Behemoth

2,105 posts

131 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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Purely on the basis of this video, sold smile

https://youtu.be/hrB-_nIer88

forzaminardi

2,290 posts

187 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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I love these also, one of the few Ferraris I genuinely would like, and to this day not only one of Maranello's best-looking cars, but a fine-looking machine by any standard (in my opinion).

I know the 'main car' in the movie 'Rainman' is a Buick Roadmaster, but Tom Cruise has one of these as his own car at the start - I thought it was super super cool.