RE: Prior Convictions: Espada at 50

RE: Prior Convictions: Espada at 50

Saturday 12th May 2018

Prior Convictions: Espada at 50

Lamborghini's four-seater was extraordinary even for 1968 - now its kind is almost unimaginable



The Lamborghini Espada is 50. Don't see many, do you? Which is not surprising; the internet reckons only a little over 1200 of them were made during a 10 year life cycle - just 10 a month.

Today, 1200 cars wouldn't be enough to keep the Urus production line going for four months. And yet back then this four-seat GT car lasted Lamborghini a decade.

Here's a short video about it, featuring Lamborghini's Head of Design at Centro Stile ('an innovative studio for our talented designers'), Mitja Borkert.

 

Always fascinating to hear a designer talk about the proportions of a car, but, well, not a straightforward conversation to listen to if you have the Urus and the, er, more controversial aspects of its design, at back of your mind.

"You can really see what Ferruccio Lamborghini wanted to do," says Borkert. "He wanted to be innovative, and the Espada is standing for something, for innovation, because such a car did not exist."

Um, yeah. Urus: not so much.


"For me it's a forecast of all these GT coupes, or four-seat coupes." Yup. Agreed. Like, sadly, even Ferrari looks like they might abandon in favour of a more utility/activity kind of vehicle.

"What can we learn from the car? For me what is very important is the lightweight look of the car, the sleek lines, the proportions, you know? On the Espada you can study perfect proportions."

Mitja, are you trying to impy something about the 2.2 tonne, VW Touareg-based SUV you've just launched?

"You have a really long but sleek roofline..." Right..."I like very much because you can see the position of the v12 engine in the front but when you see the car, it is so sleek and slim and lightweight looking..."


OK! Christ mate, enough already, you'll get yourself fired.

But by gum he's right. Won't you just look at the Espada? It is like nothing else then, and not like too much else since, thanks, surely, to the fact that there aren't millions of people who want their passengers to have to scramble into rear seats.

And I suppose that's why, now that people seem to have the sheer nerve and temerity to be running businesses actually like profit-making businesses, that the introduction of an SUV seems as inevitable as the dawning of the sun, and that the days of cars like the Espada - quirky, beautiful, useless cars like the Espada - will forever be a thing of the past. But I'm glad today's designers still love it.

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80sMatchbox

Original Poster:

3,891 posts

176 months

Saturday 12th May 2018
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Effortlessly cool..

There's a sense of style and grace which is not usually there on such a big machine. Love them.

grumpy52

5,580 posts

166 months

Saturday 12th May 2018
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One of the very few cars that I drooled over as a teenager that I have never got to see in the flesh .
I have seen and even driven most of the poster cars from my youth .
Didn't one of the Beatles own one ? Probably George or Paul .
Such a cool car .

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Saturday 12th May 2018
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Love the Espada, but here is the truth

The Lamborghini Espada is 50. Don't see many, do you? Which is not surprising; the internet reckons only a little over 1200 of them were made during a 10 year life cycle - just 10 a month.

Today, 1200 cars wouldn't be enough to keep the Urus production line going for four months.

Lamborghini will sell more of the Urus in 4 months than they did with the Espada in a decade.

You can't blame them for building what people want.

CS Garth

2,860 posts

105 months

Saturday 12th May 2018
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Let's not forget Lamborghini was a very successful tractor company and that's what essentially paid for this car.


clarkey

1,365 posts

284 months

Saturday 12th May 2018
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I grew up in Maidenhead in the 70s. For many years there was a non-runner parked on the road in a local council estate. it looked amazing next to the Hillman Hunters and Escorts.

Ocarru

143 posts

200 months

Saturday 12th May 2018
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CS Garth said:
Let's not forget Lamborghini was a very successful tractor company and that's what essentially paid for this car.
Very true. Self-made millionaire, mechanically gifted and used his tractor company (and other business interests) to employ some of the best young designers and engineers in the industry.

LuS1fer

41,133 posts

245 months

Saturday 12th May 2018
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Stunning car and the Lamborghini that first made me think WOW, before the Countach came along.
Made me disregard Ferraris as a bit dull.

ChasW

2,135 posts

202 months

Saturday 12th May 2018
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This is what triggered my interest in cars as a boy. I never get tired looking at it.

Captain Smerc

3,021 posts

116 months

Saturday 12th May 2018
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My dad's mate had a Series 3 one of these in the 70's . Amazing looking thing , sounded like nothing else on the road ! I have cherished memories of blasting up the A127 and cruising round Romford town centre . Man , that V12 howled like a demon ! Later on got a new Countach QV . He had style yes

theholygrail

261 posts

168 months

Saturday 12th May 2018
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Got a close-up look at one of these at the Stratford upon Avon Festival of Motoring last weekend. Just gorgeous. And uber cool smile

998420

901 posts

151 months

Saturday 12th May 2018
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CS Garth said:
Let's not forget Lamborghini was a very successful tractor company and that's what essentially paid for this car.
  • is... A local farmer near me has a lovely new Lamborghini tractor
I remember seeing one at the Earls Court Car Show in about '73, like others here who had similar experiences, they are just incredibly exotic, elegant and seductive cars.

MikeGalos

261 posts

284 months

Saturday 12th May 2018
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Without question the most beautiful and timeless 4-seat car. The Iso Fidia and Maserati Quatroporte (the second and third generation) that followed it tried to do the sleek 4-seat GT but couldn't compare.

Between the Miura and the Espada, Lamborghini of the late 1960s and 1970s really rewrote beauty in supercar design.

MikeGalos

261 posts

284 months

Saturday 12th May 2018
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Helicopter123 said:
… You can't blame them for building what people want.
Actually, yes, I absolutely can.

Following the market is what the mass producers like Ford and Toyota and Porsche do.

Specialty companies like Lamborghini and Lotus and Land Rover and to a lesser degree Ferrari and Aston Martin and Bentley are the ones whose job is to push the market forward and to set trends rather than follow them. Their owners trade reliability and large dealer and service networks and a lot of extra money for the excitement of owning something that's a generation ahead of what they're next to at a traffic light.

With everybody following the trends nobody really innovates and there's little justification for not just buying a Toyota.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Saturday 12th May 2018
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MikeGalos said:
Helicopter123 said:
… You can't blame them for building what people want.
Actually, yes, I absolutely can.
They've sold the first two years production already. That's 9,000 cars. Will bankroll a lot of Supercar development and that's where the innovation will come from.

JohnGoodridge

529 posts

195 months

Saturday 12th May 2018
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Helicopter123 said:
Love the Espada, but here is the truth

The Lamborghini Espada is 50. Don't see many, do you? Which is not surprising; the internet reckons only a little over 1200 of them were made during a 10 year life cycle - just 10 a month.

Today, 1200 cars wouldn't be enough to keep the Urus production line going for four months.

Lamborghini will sell more of the Urus in 4 months than they did with the Espada in a decade.

You can't blame them for building what people want.
Don’t think anyone is expecting an Espada like car to be a cash cow. But there is an argument that the Urus creates a moral imperative for Lamborghini to produce wilder cars. Something like this perhaps? With a V12. In S spec.



Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Saturday 12th May 2018
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JohnGoodridge said:
Helicopter123 said:
Love the Espada, but here is the truth

The Lamborghini Espada is 50. Don't see many, do you? Which is not surprising; the internet reckons only a little over 1200 of them were made during a 10 year life cycle - just 10 a month.

Today, 1200 cars wouldn't be enough to keep the Urus production line going for four months.

Lamborghini will sell more of the Urus in 4 months than they did with the Espada in a decade.

You can't blame them for building what people want.
Don’t think anyone is expecting an Espada like car to be a cash cow. But there is an argument that the Urus creates a moral imperative for Lamborghini to produce wilder cars. Something like this perhaps? With a V12. In S spec.


+1

Wayne95

403 posts

246 months

Sunday 13th May 2018
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Want a modern example, Aston Martin Rapide. Sleek, V12, elegant , few sales over a long period and people didn't think it was a great profitable machine.

Based on an extended car platform to bring luxury and extra space to a great GT.

Last of the great 4 door V12 cars for crossing continents.

Just need to wait 40 years for people to recognise it as a great Aston, and great Car full stop

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Sunday 13th May 2018
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Wayne95 said:
Want a modern example, Aston Martin Rapide. Sleek, V12, elegant , few sales over a long period and people didn't think it was a great profitable machine.

Based on an extended car platform to bring luxury and extra space to a great GT.

Last of the great 4 door V12 cars for crossing continents.

Just need to wait 40 years for people to recognise it as a great Aston, and great Car full stop
True, buyers just not interested.

But how many £150 - £200k a year SUVs would Aston sell?

This is the problem facing manufacturers today - build a genuinely interesting car that no-one wants, or a bling-bling SUV that sells 9,000 units pre-launch as per Lamborghini?

dunnoreally

963 posts

108 months

Sunday 13th May 2018
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You'd never hear them admit it, but Lamborghini today is a very different company to the one that made the Espada. Back then they were a single successful businessman's passion project; now they're an ultra-high-end brand within a huge multinational company. Factor in how much times in general have changed, and is it really any surprise that the cars they're making now don't have a lot in common with the ones they made back then?

I think companies like Pagani and Koenigsegg have a lot more in common with the company Lamborghini used to be. Heck, think of it in terms of a few enthusiasts making the cars they really want to make rather than what they think the market wants, and you realise new TR might not be too far off...

techguyone

3,137 posts

142 months

Sunday 13th May 2018
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MikeGalos said:
Helicopter123 said:
… You can't blame them for building what people want.
Actually, yes, I absolutely can.

Following the market is what the mass producers like Ford and Toyota and Porsche do.

Specialty companies like Lamborghini and Lotus and Land Rover and to a lesser degree Ferrari and Aston Martin and Bentley are the ones whose job is to push the market forward and to set trends rather than follow them. Their owners trade reliability and large dealer and service networks and a lot of extra money for the excitement of owning something that's a generation ahead of what they're next to at a traffic light.

With everybody following the trends nobody really innovates and there's little justification for not just buying a Toyota.
That's a really good post, wonder what's doing that function today? Tesla maybe? Model S