Thursday 31st May 2018

Toyota GT86 'Blue Edition' launched

If the Club Series Orange Edition '86 wasn't for you, Toyota now has an alternative...

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Yes, yes, another GT86 special edition - it really is hoping to emulate the MX-5 in every way, isn't it? Bring on the GT86 Euphonic, the Indiana and the Jasper Conran...

This Blue Edition '86 is the latest of the Club Series cars, introduced last year with the Orange Edition to celebrate its motorsport heritage. You can hopefully spot the running theme in the CS models, though any new GT86 that proffers a legitimate chance to watch Patrick Snijers in the rally car again sounds like a worthy addition.

This Electric Blue version should allow you to indulge those fantasies even more authentically with the introduction of a Performance Pack. Comprised of Sachs Performance dampers (used on the Yaris GRMN, don't forget), larger Brembo brakes and a new design of alloy wheel, it adds £1,475 to the price of a manual GT86 Blue Edition.

Beyond the paint scheme and the PP option, this Club Series car is as you were for a GT86 Pro: 200hp, 140mph and Torsen LSD, plus the niceties that come with a higher trim level including nav, climate control and auto headlights.

On sale from tomorrow, the Blue Edition will cost from £28,980. The range also includes an automatic option at £30,335 as well as the two Performance Pack models: £30,455 for the manual, £31,795 for the auto. As yet there isn't any news on the availability of Performance Packs on other GT86s. Still, with early cars now half their new price and going out of warranty, there's nothing to stop you making the GT86 of your dreams, be that blue or otherwise...

[GTEYE]

The wheels at least look better than the standard ones - but they could hardly be worse.

I can't remember the last time I saw a recent registration plate GT86 on the road, which is a shame - maybe not everyone's favourite car, but we should applaud Toyota for at least making the effort.

Maybe lopping the price a bit might help a bit. Especially as pre-reg cars seem to start at £22k - so they must have the margin to slice a bit off!

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20180317466...

Edited by GTEYE on Thursday 31st May 13:53

Edited by GTEYE on Thursday 31st May 13:54

[Onehp]

Would buy one again if I had use/space for one. Definitely with the performance pack. Not impressed as such with the special editions, but I don't mind the blue colour, could work... Looks will change anyway after mounting wheels of choice...

[Helicopter123]

Seems a lot for a GT86.

[cerb4.5lee]

Helicopter123 said:

Seems a lot for a GT86.

Performance per £ is certainly on the low side. I am still strangely drawn to them though.

[Murphy16]

I'd rather buy a used one, supercharge it and change the wheels over buying a brand new limited edition coloured one.

[Shappers24]

Enjoyed my time in my gt86, a car I lusted after ever since the concept broke cover. Not sure I’d have another one though, and certainly not for £30K.

[Pica-Pica]

Not sure about the red calipers though!

[Pica-Pica]

Not sure about the red calipers though!

[Bladedancer]

I just don't get Toyota's pricing strategy. 370Z starts at just below 30k and as much as I like the GT86 it's nowhere near the Nissan performance-wise.
At 22-24k sure, GT86 makes sense. At 30? You gotta be kidding me.

[Ahbefive]

Agree with the comments. Wheels look better but £30k? No chance.

[LordGrover]

Bladedancer said:

I just don't get Toyota's pricing strategy. 370Z starts at just below 30k and as much as I like the GT86 it's nowhere near the Nissan performance-wise.
At 22-24k sure, GT86 makes sense. At 30? You gotta be kidding me.

Define performance. If you're simply comparing stats, obvs - but comparing a fat tourer with a nimble 2+2 coupe? Apples and oranges.

Blue touchpaper lit...

[rallycross]

Does this model come with £5,000 cash in the glove box?
The price might make more sense if it did.

[Deep Thought]

Bladedancer said:

I just don't get Toyota's pricing strategy. 370Z starts at just below 30k and as much as I like the GT86 it's nowhere near the Nissan performance-wise.
At 22-24k sure, GT86 makes sense. At 30? You gotta be kidding me.

I'm wholly with you on this however the view on here will be its a different car, Z isnt as good on the limit, GT86 is a better drivers car, etc, etc but the 370Z is a great car in its own right.

Like you i'd find it very hard to walk past a 370Z for one, particular as the likes of Broadspeed.com are offering a base 370Z for £24,016, a 370Z GT for £28,816 and a NISMO for £33,046

[Deep Thought]

LordGrover said:

Bladedancer said:

I just don't get Toyota's pricing strategy. 370Z starts at just below 30k and as much as I like the GT86 it's nowhere near the Nissan performance-wise.
At 22-24k sure, GT86 makes sense. At 30? You gotta be kidding me.

Define performance. If you're simply comparing stats, obvs - but comparing a fat tourer with a nimble 2+2 coupe? Apples and oranges.

Blue touchpaper lit...

And i'll bite...

Granted the Z is heavier but the sheer power it has overcomes the weight difference by far. Will it be wholly as nimble as a GT86 - no. Will it be a very fast cross country weapon. Yes. Absolutely.

[Torquey]

Shappers24 said:

Enjoyed my time in my gt86, a car I lusted after ever since the concept broke cover. Not sure I’d have another one though, and certainly not for £30K.

+1 - exactly the same thoughts. There would be other similar cars to try before buying another one of these. For the money I'd be swayed towards a new-ish Civic type R. If not a 370z (never realised they were so cheap)

[GiveItSomeWellie]

Love mine, they make an excellent buy at a few months old. I bought this one in January with 3k miles at 6 months old for almost £7k under list including options.



£30k is a lot, but for the amount of fun I'm having in this car I don't doubt that it's worth it. Instead of finding the £10k to upgrade I think I'll wait until they release the brake kit as an accessory

[anonymous-user]

The orange edition was a really nasty shade of orange, and now the blue edition is a really nasty shade of blue. 10/10 for consistency.

[spikyone]

Deep Thought said:

Bladedancer said:

I just don't get Toyota's pricing strategy. 370Z starts at just below 30k and as much as I like the GT86 it's nowhere near the Nissan performance-wise.
At 22-24k sure, GT86 makes sense. At 30? You gotta be kidding me.

I'm wholly with you on this however the view on here will be its a different car, Z isnt as good on the limit, GT86 is a better drivers car, etc, etc but the 370Z is a great car in its own right.

Like you i'd find it very hard to walk past a 370Z for one, particular as the likes of Broadspeed.com are offering a base 370Z for £24,016, a 370Z GT for £28,816 and a NISMO for £33,046

Why is it that so many PH threads compare the list price of a car being criticised as expensive with the broker price of something else? Broadspeed are offering almost £4k off the price of the previous GT86 special edition, so this is going to come in at ~£25k - and the GT86 comes with heated leather/alcantara seats and cruise control as standard whereas the base Z does not.

The GT86 has outsold the Z by around 3:1 despite going on sale 2 years later and being too expensive, not powerful enough, and every other tired PH forum cliche. And yes, a GT86 costs more than getting the same performance from a hot hatch - but it 's a RWD coupe, not a tarted-up mass-market driving school car.

[otolith]

Bladedancer said:

I just don't get Toyota's pricing strategy. 370Z starts at just below 30k and as much as I like the GT86 it's nowhere near the Nissan performance-wise.
At 22-24k sure, GT86 makes sense. At 30? You gotta be kidding me.

Yet nobody buys the Nissan. And the cheapest Audi TT with 180bhp is £27,965.

[Deep Thought]

spikyone said:

Why is it that so many PH threads compare the list price of a car being criticised as expensive with the broker price of something else? Broadspeed are offering almost £4k off the price of the previous GT86 special edition, so this is going to come in at ~£25k - and the GT86 comes with heated leather/alcantara seats and cruise control as standard whereas the base Z does not.

The GT86 has outsold the Z by around 3:1 despite going on sale 2 years later and being too expensive, not powerful enough, and every other tired PH forum cliche. And yes, a GT86 costs more than getting the same performance from a hot hatch - but it 's a RWD coupe, not a tarted-up mass-market driving school car.

Simply because at this stage i'm not seeing any discount listed at the brokers for this new Blue edition. If dealers are selling off the previous edition cheap then thats their prerogative but at this stage theres no discount figures avail for this car.

Dealers may be reluctant to discount this limited edition significantly at this stage.

And likewise, as has been pointed out on other threads in other markets such as Australia and the JDM the GT86 is within perhaps 10% of the price of a Fiesta ST, so the whole "oh we need to charge so much more because its a RWD coupe" doesnt hold water with me frankly.

And those arent cliches by the way - they're valid reasons why a lot of people didnt and dont buy them.

The 370Z has had its issues - the taxation at over £500 a year for so long put a lot of people off, as did the (perceived) fuel economy and being a PCP driven market the really crappy manufacturer PCP deals did it / do it no favours either.

Even IF you could get 10% off this right now today - which i doubt, to me the 370Z GT would be the better buy at a few £s more. Again, not saying thats who everyone should think or that that view is the One True View, but for me as a prospective buyer thats where i would be.

Edited by Deep Thought on Friday 1st June 10:06

Edited by Deep Thought on Friday 1st June 10:06