RE: Honda Civic Type R (EP3): PH Heroes

RE: Honda Civic Type R (EP3): PH Heroes

Sunday 3rd June 2018

Honda Civic Type R (EP3): PH Heroes

The high-revving Honda is worthy of Hero status for many reasons, but 8,250 of them in particular.



Prior to the introduction of the EP3, Honda had not treated the UK to its own version of the Civic Type R. Officially speaking, the original EK9 model was JDM only, and a very rare sight on British roads even in its late nineties heyday. Consequently, rumour of its brilliance (many of the trick bits were shared with the DC2 Integra) did not spread particularly far - and with the notable exception of the lightly fettled 160hp Jordan, the Civic was more famous over here for its enduring popularity with the sensible shoe brigade.

Plainly, this needed rectifying. To meet the EK9 Type R in 1999 was like encountering a bootleg copy of the Basement Tapes thirty years earlier. It was a world away from the homologated saloons being imported en masse by Subaru and Mitsubishi or the cheery excess of the R34 Skyline. Its maker, of course, spurned forced induction, preferring the response and righteousness of its own mechanical solution to Japan's prohibitive road tax system. The 187hp 1.6-litre B16B motor found in the Civic announced Honda's VTEC (Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control) technology in the best possible way; at 5,800rpm, and didn't quit reminding you of its advantages until 9,000rpm.


Like the Integra, the model was about the flintiness that comes with low weight and seriously enhanced stiffness. There was even a Motor Sports edition, which helpfully subtracted almost all the electronically-powered equipment from the interior. Think RenaultSport Clio 172 Cup, and you're very much in the conceptual ballpark. The follow up, in contrast, was a little more grown-up. It was also a lot more European: the EP3 signalling a move from JDM to EDM for the Type R, with manufacturing shifting from Suzuka to Honda's giant facility at Swindon.

The sixth generation Civic has been built at HUM, too - but the EP3 marked the first time it would build cars destined for the Japanese market (no little testament to the quality of its output). Better still, it allowed Honda to gate crash the UK's famously buoyant hot hatch segment. The 'breadvan' model wasn't an ideal icebreaker - in its cooking format, the design was focused on increasing interior space, not enhancing performance - nevertheless, as with the EK9, the Type R was less about frivilous styling and much more to do with the occupant of the engine bay.


In the case of the EDM version, that unit was the K20A2; a 200hp DOHC 2.0-litre four-pot and a constituent of Honda's all-new K Series. For the A2, built specifically for Type R models, VTEC featured on both the intake and exhaust valves, with ludicious speed engaged at 5,800rpm. (For the JDM variant, it was a little later, and the output a little higher at 215hp - although peak torque came later, too.) Total horsepower was delivered at a heady 7,400rpm, but there was no limiter until 8,250rpm, and it was this tantalizing fact that earned the car instant acclaim in the UK.

It remains the Type R's USP today - and, because turbocharging is now virtually omnipresent, it stands out from the crowd even more distinctly than it did in 2001. Barely any rival back then drove like the Civic, and now none do - not even its more recent descendant, the FK8, which has gleefully absorbed the benefits of forced induction. The EP3, in stark contrast, makes you wade through the pitfalls before granting you access to the good stuff. This was always the way, and by design: beforehand you get docility and parsimony and quietness - afterwards you get the whites of your eyes and the whirring drama of a valvetrain gone bananas.


That said, the shift between the two was never quite as stark as in earlier iterations (where it felt as though some internal button had been pushed), the K20A2 moving through its phases a little more progressively. But the result is still much the same: below the watermark you could be driving any fairly peppy version a naturally-aspirated Civic, after it you could only be in the Type R. Between the two there will certainly have been a gearchange - possibly more than one - but that's okay, too, because the EP3 featured one of the best and most snickety close-ratio manual six-speed gearboxes to ever grace a hot hatch. Sure, it looks van-like mounted on the dash, but that just keeps it close at hand - where it absolutely needs to be.

Elsewhere, not everything about the EP3 could claim to be worthy of such superlatives. Contemporary reviews noted the firm ride quality and inconsistent steering feel, and even in the immaculate facelifted version driven, it's even easier now to find fault with the passive dampers and variable-ratio rack. Even so, the chassis is not without its smarts: it inspires considerable confidence in the dry, and even without the limited-slip diff that was fitted exclusively to the JDM models, traction isn't usually a problem. There's a feelsome sense of balance, too, once the initial tendency to roll is dealt with. By and large, it feels as good as the drivetrain needs it to be.


Because once you've dialled into the Honday VTEC way, it's very easy to obsess about the rev counter in the Type R to the exclusion of everything else. Extracting the engine's full potential means staying permanently above that 6000rpm threshold; short shift and you'll be momentarily stranded outside the power band. Consequently, there are no half measures in the EP3 (or none that seem halfway satisfying). You drive it sedately or else on its door handles - and accept that transitioning from one to the other typically requires determination on your part.

It's not for everyone, granted. But, if you're so inclined, it's very much the antidote to an age of effortlessness. There's never a feeling of nonchalance or detachment when driving this Type R fast because it wants so much pedalling - and it's that frenetic, take-no-prisoners attitude that makes it feel like racing bike saddle in a world of La-Z-Boys. This makes it a copper-bottomed Hero on spec - but it's worth adding that (for now at least) the EP3 also remains largely immune to silly secondhand values. You can get a perfectly decent example for less than £5k, and you won't need more than £10k to buy an immaculate one. When you consider that there's already practically nothing else like it - and never will be again - Swindon's very first Type R still makes the best kind of sense.


SPECIFICATION - HONDA CIVIC TYPE R (EP3)
Engine:
1,998cc, four-cylinder
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 200@7,400rpm
Torque (lb ft): 145@5,900rpm
0-62mph: 6.6secs
Top speed: 146mph
Weight: 1,204kg
MPG: 31.7 (NEDC combined)
CO2: 212g/km
On sale: 2001 - 2005
Price new: £15,995
Price now: £3,000 - £10,000

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Kenny Powers

Original Poster:

2,618 posts

127 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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Fabulous cars with a scintillating motor and world beating gear change, somewhat letdown by the lifeless steering. Certainly in the UKDM model anyway.

Swindon.

Butter Face

30,277 posts

160 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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Had mine 4 years and I’ve honestly never been bothered about the steering (it seems to crop up every time the EP3 is mentioned but it’s still loads better than lots of moden hatches IMO)

As with all Hondas, once you tweak them a bit they get better and better. Bilstein shocks, Eibach springs, get the handling setup.

Then some better brakes, good tyres, then start on the engine.




Oh dear, I see how I’ve ended up where i have hehe



They’re fun with 200bhp, they’re amazing with 300+. And the prefacelift is infinitely prettier than the facelift IMO.

je777

341 posts

104 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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Is there a good reason why most gearsticks are not where this one is?
Up near the steering wheel seems the obvious place to put it.

arkenphel

484 posts

205 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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The first time I went in one was from Dundee to Edinburgh many years ago. At 70mph the engines tone was a dentists's drill piercing into my headand i felt quite deaf and nauseous after.

Now a friend of mine has one and I can appreciate the engineering uniqueness of it. Plus my hearing is much worse then it used to be so the drone doesn't matter anymore.

Very short geared, definitely not for cruising. I want one now

df76

3,626 posts

278 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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I’ve just bought one as a hillclimb / track project. It’s not perfect, but will spend the next couple of years developing it as a project. So many bits available and all good value.



If I had £6k to spend on one, I’d be looking at a fresh JDM import.

BrewsterBear

1,503 posts

192 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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I have one in my little collection. Yes, RWD sports cars are where it's at, but there is such a huge amount of joy in wringing the neck of the EP3 on a twisty road. It gets used for tip run duties and those times when I wouldn't want to leave the others parked up (Tescos, cinema, etc). Sometimes I feel a bit glum when I walk past the others in the workshop to take the Honda, but pretty much every time I do take it I come back with a huge grin on my face.


JackReacher

2,123 posts

215 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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BrewsterBear said:
I have one in my little collection. Yes, RWD sports cars are where it's at, but there is such a huge amount of joy in wringing the neck of the EP3 on a twisty road. It gets used for tip run duties and those times when I wouldn't want to leave the others parked up (Tescos, cinema, etc). Sometimes I feel a bit glum when I walk past the others in the workshop to take the Honda, but pretty much every time I do take it I come back with a huge grin on my face.

I think I'm going to purchase one for similar use. Still the greatest engine / gearbox in a hot hatch in my opinion. I've had a few quickish rear wheel drive cars since I sold my EP3 8 years ago, but I still rate it very highly. Great drive on the right road.

rossub

4,437 posts

190 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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df76 said:
If I had £6k to spend on one, I’d be looking at a fresh JDM import.
No chance of getting one for £6k I’m afraid - £8k minimum and £10k plus with lowish miles.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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je777 said:
Is there a good reason why most gearsticks are not where this one is?
Up near the steering wheel seems the obvious place to put it.
I bought mine and found that exact same question coursing through my mind from the first drive home. It is just a brilliant set up, superb engine, great chassis, awesome close ratio and close to hand gear change and to be frank I always found the steering feel just fine.... try some of Audi's output in comparison for really poor steering feel.

I chopped mine in after a few years for a Jag XJ8..... needed something completely different to not end up losing my licence :-)

DanielSan

18,771 posts

167 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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rossub said:
No chance of getting one for £6k I’m afraid - £8k minimum and £10k plus with lowish miles.
There’s a few fairly tidy pre facelift JDM’s around for £6-6500, facelift JDM’s are rarer and command a bit more of your hard earned.

a11y_m

1,861 posts

222 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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BrewsterBear said:
I have one in my little collection. Yes, RWD sports cars are where it's at, but there is such a huge amount of joy in wringing the neck of the EP3 on a twisty road. It gets used for tip run duties and those times when I wouldn't want to leave the others parked up (Tescos, cinema, etc). Sometimes I feel a bit glum when I walk past the others in the workshop to take the Honda, but pretty much every time I do take it I come back with a huge grin on my face.

Great collection.

“Don’t know what you got ‘til it’s gone” sums up my EP3 ownership. It had a hard act to follow after 3yrs driving a tweaked Clio 172 and I never gelled completely with the Civic. But looking back now I realise I was harsh on it: it WAS a good car but I continually compared it to my Clio which was more fun, just as quick and IMO better looking.

It’s only now I realise how good it was.

Neith

621 posts

140 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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Had one for just over a year. It made a great noise, the gearbox was brilliant and the steering felt sharp, if lacking some feel. It was a shame the UK cars weren't built to the same spec as the JDM ones (more power and a LSD...)

I enjoyed my time with it for the most part but it never felt that special to me honestly. Great cars but I dont think I'd have another. It was miles better than the frankly awful Clio 197 I had later though!

GregE102

44 posts

184 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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My Neighbour Has an EP3 he super charged it getting over 400Bhp with standard internals and some trick bits and suspension and it is one of the fastest cars I know! I have been in the passenger seat along side some very quick stuff and just pulled away from them.

Andy_5

93 posts

98 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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I love a hot hatch and have had my fair share over the years. But this is one of the few cars, that just never got under my skin and left me a bit 'cold'. Shame as I really wanted to like it......

irish boy

3,533 posts

236 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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Haven't been in one for years but I would certainly consider putting one on the drive again. Hard to find a clean and unmolested one.

JMF894

5,488 posts

155 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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Fabuloue engine and a wonderful gear change in an average chassis with annoying steering and dreadful front end traction when cold or slightly damp on the OE Bridgestone Potenzas.

Bought a new Premier Edition in 2005 and got rid after 8 months.

Shame.

That said I could still be tempted by and ITR as I think a less compromising car alllows you to be more forgiving towards it's faults. A case of forgiving the lows because the highs are higher.

Gee Whizz

77 posts

240 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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irish boy said:
Haven't been in one for years but I would certainly consider putting one on the drive again. Hard to find a clean and unmolested one.
10 bags of sand will buy you this one...

http://www.4starclassics.com/for-sale/honda-civic-...

macky17

2,212 posts

189 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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Very much enjoyed mine a few years ago. It always seemed insulting to me that Honda would build the jdm diff cars here then export them to japan. I never did drive one - how good were/are they? As good as a DC5?

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

12,889 posts

100 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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Gee Whizz said:
irish boy said:
Haven't been in one for years but I would certainly consider putting one on the drive again. Hard to find a clean and unmolested one.
10 bags of sand will buy you this one...

http://www.4starclassics.com/for-sale/honda-civic-...
Kept so that will surely be worth a LOT in a few decades time!

Chestrockwell

2,625 posts

157 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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Had a 140k 1500 pound one for a year, I seriously abused that car, put hardcore miles on it, about 10k, not a single issue, you open the bonnet and don’t smell anything unlike my e46 330i before it, its amazing how Honda can provide such an exciting car with a 8250rpm Rev limiter with a truly headache free ownership experience, I sold it in the end for 1100, needed an MOT, windscreen and 2 drop links. Looking back I should have kept it as the car was worth more to me than the money but the insurance price for me (23 at the time) cost the same as the 430d BM (1600) I replaced it with. Shame as I didn’t want to sell it.