RE: RS Q8 and next RS6 spied testing

RE: RS Q8 and next RS6 spied testing

Monday 23rd July 2018

RS Q8 spy film confirms turbocharged V8

Audi's range-topping Q8 remains on course for its RS badge



UPDATE - 23-07-18
Hear that? It's the turbocharged V8 heart of Audi Sport's next RS Q8, which has been filmed testing at the Nürburgring by our everdiligent spy snapper. Due out next year as a rival to the Range Rover Sport SVR, the high performance heavyweight - unconfirmed by Audi Sport but, well, there in the video - shares its underpinnings with the Bentayga and Urus.

All the detail remain pinned to Ingolstadt's chest, although it seems almost certain that the same electric anti-roll bars appearing in the Audi as they do in the other high performance versions of the MLBevo platform (given its apparent lack of roll on video). No sign of the new RS6 on the same afternoon sadly, but naturally we'll keep you posted on the progress of Audi Sport's much more interesting wagon...

 

ORIGINAL STORY - 12-06-18
No rest for the wicked, eh? With the dust barely settled on the Q8 unveil, our bush-bothering snapper has already caught what appears to be an RS version testing (towing, in fact) on German roads. Naturally there's no official confirmation yet on whether or not a fully-fledged Audi Sport variant is inbound - but it does rather make sense given the model's direct rivals (the Range Rover Sport SVR among them) and the fact that its shared underpinnings have already been made to go very fast indeed by both Bentley and Lamborghini.

See the humungous tailpipes? You can bet whatever is left of your lunch money that those are connected to the twin-turbocharged 4.0-litre V8 that fills out the engine bay of most of its siblings. See those brakes? They're humungous, too. All the better for stopping two-tonnes of offensively fast SUV. Expect that camo to conceal what appears to be a fairly modest reworking of bumper and sill. And expect, as well, circa 600hp if it is an RS (because that's more than a Bentayga, less than a Urus) - unless, of course, Audi has snuck a newfangled hybrid powertrain into the SUV mix. In which case all bets are off.


Adding credence to the range-topping speculation is the proximity (like right in front) of a next generation RS6 mule. In this case, the 55 TFSI badge is fooling no-one; again we get the giveaway oval exhaust pipes, but we also get the telltale flared arches - indicative of the widened track the model has worn since forever. No prizes for guessing which engine is most likely to feature here, too - nor its output, with the internet already speculating about a 650hp figure to improve upon the 605hp the previous Performance version departed with. Which would also coincidentally exceed the 625hp produced by the forthcoming BMW M5 Competition.

While we wait for the conjecture to be confirmed one way or the other, let's dwell briefly on looks. The outgoing model, no doubt about it, was the Anthony Joshua of the estate car division. No matter what you thought of the car underneath, it undisputedly looked the part. The new one? Possibly not so much. The current RS4 and 5 have already been toned down for a 'sleeker' appearance; seems the RS6 is destined to follow. Which is a shame, no? Sleek is for supercars and two-door GTs - hugely powerful wagons are best when dressed like Yakuza.

 

 

 

 

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GranCab

Original Poster:

2,902 posts

146 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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OK Audi haters .... Let's get all your clichés out in the first page ... rolleyes

numtumfutunch

4,721 posts

138 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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 hugely powerful wagons are best when dressed like Yakuza

Would have to disagree, I always thought the current RS6 to be far too shouty

Cheers

Resolutionary

1,258 posts

171 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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Audi lover here. The back of that 6 looks so much like an E class it's painful.

Otherwise what's not to like, 650ish horses in a wagon ought to do the job. The Q8 thing, well.. I'll wait to see one up close.

dandarez

13,276 posts

283 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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'This' wink is an Audi, not those modern tank-like everything looks the same monstrosities of today.



Shiv_P

2,742 posts

105 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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How I see this going
- complaints about understeer
- complaints about VAG
- complaints about SUVs
- complaints about not needing performance SUVs
- complaints about women drivers
- complaints about SUV drivers

etc

smilo996

2,783 posts

170 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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The RS6 could use more aggressive lines and a manual box but minor niggles.
Not short on power apparently.

They really should write pointless and flatulent on the side of the luxobarge though.
Because we all need to tow a four wheel trailer to 60mph in 3,5 secs and to 180mph. 😂😂

seefarr

1,464 posts

186 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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smilo996 said:
Because we all need to tow a four wheel trailer to 60mph in 3,5 secs and to 180mph.
Not every day, but it's nice to know you could. biggrin

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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Shiv_P said:
How I see this going
- complaints about understeer
- complaints about VAG
- complaints about SUVs
- complaints about not needing performance SUVs
- complaints about women drivers
- complaints about SUV drivers

etc
If all that wasn't true, you wouldn't be saying it.

culpz

4,882 posts

112 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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That RS6 looks so discreet, even when in that testing camouflage that they use. The new brake lights that go right across the boot look great IMO.

Zetec-S

5,867 posts

93 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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I've never understood the trend of taking a normal hatchback/estate, raise it up so it's (supposedly) more practical, better visibility and has "off-road" pretensions. And then for the top end model with the big engine, lower it back down again. Seems like you're just back where you started.

Anyway, who am I to judge... if someone wants one then crack on with it and enjoy.

As you were... coffee

Amizade

284 posts

225 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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Kierkegaard said:
Shiv_P said:
How I see this going
- complaints about understeer
- complaints about VAG
- complaints about SUVs
- complaints about not needing performance SUVs
- complaints about women drivers
- complaints about SUV drivers

etc
If all that wasn't true, you wouldn't be saying it.
- + complaints remapped 335d is faster.

C7 JFW

1,205 posts

219 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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Making the RS6 more discreet - Thank you Audi.

Don't get me wrong, I like the RS6 at a car show, but unfortunately for me, the basic premise of owning an RS6 type product, is to get from A to B as quickly as poss whilst blending in as much as you can - something the new M5 does absolutely perfectly.

Make it subtle, give it stupid power and a beautiful interior and you've got the ideal blend.

Not fussed about the Bungalow on wheels behind it.

Dr G

15,167 posts

242 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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That's an A6 shell with some bits stuck on; making judgements on the RS6's styling based on an engineering mule is a bit silly.

dvs_dave

8,612 posts

225 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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numtumfutunch said:
 hugely powerful wagons are best when dressed like Yakuza

Would have to disagree, I always thought the current RS6 to be far too shouty

Cheers
No, big shouty looks is not the, at least, traditional RS way. Subtle beef and aggression that someone in the know would notice, but a lay person would just think it’s a nice looking Audi. Iron fist in a velvet glove.

Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

127 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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smilo996 said:
They really should write pointless and flatulent on the side of the luxobarge though.
Because we all need to tow a four wheel trailer to 60mph in 3,5 secs and to 180mph. ????
It probably doesn’t come with a trailer permanently attached as standard, but probably a good idea to test it with one if it will be approved for towing. But hey...if you don’t want it then it must be pointless frown

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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Will this hot v be more thermodynamically efficient than that of he BMW and Merc?

dvs_dave

8,612 posts

225 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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Welshbeef said:
Will this hot v be more thermodynamically efficient than that of he BMW and Merc?
A bizarre question out of all the questions you could ask. What makes you question such a specific and specialist point that wouldn’t typically be in the public domain?

I suppose the fuel economy figures would give an indication, but the specific thermodynamic efficiency of the power plant is just one factor out of many that contribute to that overall number.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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dvs_dave said:
Welshbeef said:
Will this hot v be more thermodynamically efficient than that of he BMW and Merc?
A bizarre question out of all the questions you could ask. What makes you question such a specific and specialist point that wouldn’t typically be in the public domain?

I suppose the fuel economy figures would give an indication, but the specific thermodynamic efficiency of the power plant is just one factor out of many that contribute to that overall number.
I want to know out of the big 3 M5/E63S and RS6 given all are similarlower and pace which is actually the best engine and one thing which is an area of superiority given similar output is my question.

Remember what zen I used to say with Ferrari you buy the engine the car is free

footsoldier

2,258 posts

192 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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Recently sold my nardo RS6, which had no badges, black brake calipers etc.(OK, and an Akrapovic exhaust...)
That was subtle enough, IMO, and very few people realised what it was.
Don't need to go full A6 and make it relatively dull to look at.

PantsFire

519 posts

80 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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Might be the new S6, don't the RS's have wider wheel arches?