RE: New 250hp Audi S1 rumoured

RE: New 250hp Audi S1 rumoured

Tuesday 19th June

New 250hp Audi S1 rumoured

Hot on the heels of the new A1's debut, speculation about an S1 replacement has already begun



It seems that every sector of the automotive industry is now more competitive than ever, as manufacturers constantly seek new niches to exploit, before having to defend that hard earned territory when their rivals look to follow suit. It is thanks to this unending struggle that the past few weeks have seen Audi, once a maker of solid saloons, sporty coupes and world beating race cars, announce both the new range-topping Q8 SUV, and a successor to the supermini A1, a car for all intents and purposes at the opposite end of the automotive spectrum.

That's not to say that Audi has forgotten where it came from, of course. The new A1 is plenty schporty, with aggressive styling said to reference the original 1984 Sport Quattro - how about those bonnet slits, eh? - sports suspension, optional adaptive dampers, and up to 200hp thanks to the option of a 2.0-litre four pot engine. The launch edition even comes with a set of very snazzy 18-inch bronze wheels.


This being PH, though, we care rather more about the version which goes fast than the one which merely looks it. That'll be the new S1, the successor to a car which weenjoyed when we drove it four years ago, and which was itself inspired by the incredibly cool Audi A1 Quattro that we spent time in more recently.

Release date and specs

A new S1 is yet to be officially confirmed, but Autocar reports that the model is set for a predictable 2019 return. Like the previous iteration it will feature all-wheel drive as standard, with power expected to increase to around 250hp thanks to a more highly strung version of the 2.0-litre petrol found in the most potent A1. That ought to see a noticeable improvement over the outgoing car's 5.9 second 0-60 time, bringing it more into line with rivals from other brands.

It should look, and sound, even meaner than before as well - flared arches, lower ride height (currently -25mm from A1 to S1), bigger wing, etc. - especially with the aesthetics of the new A1 as a starting point. Fingers crossed that the A1 Quattro's white wheels make a comeback too...


It will differ from its predecessor in two key areas, however. The first being the lack of a three-door option, what with the new A1 being available in five-door format only, and the second being the likely addition of a seven-speed S Tronic automatic transmission. The new 2.0-litre A1 receives the auto 'box as standard, with the rest of the range getting a six-speed manual in its place. The previous S1, of course, was available with three pedals only.

2019 Audi S1 price

With the A1 expected to rise in price to around £16,500, a similar increase should be expected for the S1. This would see it nudging the £28,000 mark, an area where there is already considerable competition. Whether the new car will be able to hold its own there, we will have to wait and see.




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Jam12321

Original Poster:

154 posts

43 months

Tuesday 19th June
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Bit ugly but what else would you expect... Were the wheels nicked from a Ford Focus?

rb_89

36 posts

3 months

Tuesday 19th June
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I actually quite like the design of this, more so than the outgoing car.
It actually looks a bit more wild and aggressive, which IMO a hot hatch should... I am surprised to see a design like this come from Audi though, especially on an A series car.

At that price point though it is going to have some stiff competition.

VladtheImpala

11 posts

12 months

Tuesday 19th June
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Why does it have to be a 5 door?!

Brian Fallon

4 posts

4 months

Tuesday 19th June
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It's a shame that Audi are no longer offering a 3 door option. They've removed that option with he S3 and will do so with the new S1. Some of us don't want or need the rear doors. This just pushes buyers of 3 door cars to BMW.

andrewparker

3,223 posts

120 months

Tuesday 19th June
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VladtheImpala said:
Why does it have to be a 5 door?!
Yep, really needs a 3 door variant IMO.
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culpz

3,893 posts

45 months

Tuesday 19th June
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rb_89 said:
I actually quite like the design of this, more so than the outgoing car.
It actually looks a bit more wild and aggressive, which IMO a hot hatch should... I am surprised to see a design like this come from Audi though, especially on an A series car.

At that price point though it is going to have some stiff competition.
I agree. For me the 2.0 petrol "40" variant with 197 bhp is probably enough, especially with the S-Tronic gearbox. I'm definitely not against an S1 version though, by any means.

I actually hope they offer the S-car with an option of the S-Tronic 'box this time, as It really suits the engine IMO. It'd be good to have a choice of a manual aswell though.

Composite Guru

1,593 posts

136 months

Tuesday 19th June
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Jam12321 said:
Bit ugly but what else would you expect... Were the wheels nicked from a Ford Focus?
Was just about to say that about the wheels. Not the best choice.

NAS

2,237 posts

164 months

Tuesday 19th June
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andrewparker said:
VladtheImpala said:
Why does it have to be a 5 door?!
Yep, really needs a 3 door variant IMO.
Almost nobody buys 3 doors anymore. Not enough to make it worthwhile to produce a separate body variant at least.

Veeayt

2,671 posts

138 months

Tuesday 19th June
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Composite Guru said:
Jam12321 said:
Bit ugly but what else would you expect... Were the wheels nicked from a Ford Focus?
Was just about to say that about the wheels. Not the best choice.
Audi has more heritage-wise with snowflake wheels than Ford

Onehp

589 posts

216 months

Tuesday 19th June
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I hope they overdrive the rear axle and make it a lightweight competitor to the Focus RS. Manual must have, idem with the white rally wheels. If someone wants it a bit softer, the auto 'Polo GTI' version as pictured will do that job...

AppleJuice

1,666 posts

18 months

Tuesday 19th June
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Generically bland yet fussy with Fiesta ST wheels.

Does Audi's design department have any imaginaton (besides having a photocopier)?

ETA: the ruler-led stying is very Eighties...

Edited by AppleJuice on Tuesday 19th June 14:04

court

1,438 posts

149 months

Tuesday 19th June
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and there's me thinking that no one would ever consider copying the expanses of black fake grills all over the new Civic.

struttob

343 posts

82 months

Tuesday 19th June
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Looks like the i30N would fit in the same mould !

GTEYE

1,197 posts

143 months

Tuesday 19th June
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Those coloured bits of interior trim look wrong on the Polo GTi and they look just as wrong here.

Makes what otherwise might look okay, look really cheap and tacky.

neil1jnr

1,093 posts

88 months

Tuesday 19th June
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Bloated, just like the new Polo, Fiesta and Ibiza, all very ugly cars but this S1 might 'win' for the ugliest small hatch.

This might sound contradictive, but I quite like the Honda Civic Type R's styling, OTT and not very pretty. Audi have copied it and shoved a set of Focus ST alloys on it, this new S1 looks horrendous, it even has that weird large Mini look to it where the proportions look all wrong. vomit


mooseracer

357 posts

103 months

Tuesday 19th June
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Onehp said:
I hope they overdrive the rear axle and make it a lightweight competitor to the Focus RS. Manual must have, idem with the white rally wheels. If someone wants it a bit softer, the auto 'Polo GTI' version as pictured will do that job...
lol, keep hoping

mike74

972 posts

65 months

Tuesday 19th June
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AppleJuice said:
Generically bland yet fussy
This.

It's actually quite some achievement to make a car look both boring yet overly styled all at the same time!

ogrodz

70 posts

53 months

Tuesday 19th June
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After a spirited test drive of the current S1, I concluded the following;

Its a tad too small - particularly in the back - so good news that the new model is more bloaty IMO.
Noticeable torque steer - hope Audi fix this issue as it detracts from an otherwise pleasantly surprising experience
Stupidly high price - not confident that Audi will ever address this...


xjay1337

10,726 posts

51 months

Tuesday 19th June
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rb_89 said:
I actually quite like the design of this, more so than the outgoing car.
It actually looks a bit more wild and aggressive, which IMO a hot hatch should... I am surprised to see a design like this come from Audi though, especially on an A series car.

At that price point though it is going to have some stiff competition.
I agree. Looks really good to be fair.

g7jhp

5,660 posts

171 months

Tuesday 19th June
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I really want to find a decent hot hatch, but most seem to be heavy and over powered.

Shame there are so few lightweight, solidly built, naturally aspirated built these days.