RE: Nissan GT-R Litchfield Track Edition: First look

RE: Nissan GT-R Litchfield Track Edition: First look

Saturday 30th June 2018

Nissan GT-R Litchfield Track Edition | First look

Litchfield Motors has introduced its own take on the GT-R Track Edition. We dive under the covers...



Few people outside Nissan know more about the GT-R than Litchfield Motors, from near Tewkesbury. Originally an importer of grey Japanese goodness, Iain Litchfield's business has evolved into being one of the most respected tuners of R35 GT-Rs in the business. It has sold more than 500 of its handling kits for the R35 GT-R, and reckons - as PH does, incidentally - that the Track Edition might just be the sweet spot in the current GT-R range.

At £94,995, the Track Edition sits between the £81,995 regular GT-R and the full-on £151,995 Nismo edition. The Track Edition gets the fully seam welded shell of the Nismo, which necessitates it being taken off the line and to a different facility for prep, as well as a wider front track and wings, larger hubs, different front suspension arms, hollow anti-roll bars, different wheels/tyres and a carbon fibre rear spoiler.


UK buyers don't necessarily always agree. Nissan only sold four Track Editions last year. Which is a shame: the success of the Track Edition helps justify the existence Nismo, or vice versa, because of the additional shell work that happens to both. Anyway it's why Litchfield has launched a new variant - the Litchfield Track Edition - based on it.

At £98,895 on the road, the Litchfield variant takes the regular Track Edition and adds larger air intakes, larger injectors, a fuel pressure sensor, an intake manifold air temperature sensor, a new exhaust Y-section and recalibration of the ECUs for both engine and gearbox. Thus reworked, the Litchfield car makes 640hp, up from 570hp (the Nismo is only 600hp), and 600lb ft.


Litchfield fits its suspension kit, too, which it developed for the limited edition LM20 it launched last year. There are Bilstein dampers, and Eibach springs which are 44% stiffer at the front and 13% stiffer at the rear. The roll bars are stiffer, and changes to the front suspension slightly change the wheelbase and caster angle, aimed at giving more front end grip and steering feel. To match the drivetrain and suspension changes, Litchfield calibrates its own stability control. Then there's a new front splitter and rear lip spoiler.

And it all gets a three-year warranty. Which is quite a lot of work for a mere four grand premium, no? I think there are a few reasons for that. A sub-£100k price tag is attractive, I suspect a few buyers will still ask Litchfield to do a little extra work again - turning the power up to the high sevens is pretty popular, I believe - and then there's the fact that Litchfield has a much better relationship with Nissan than it once did, so I suspect gets quite a good deal on the car. A bit like Japanese manufacturers used to frown on grey imports, before coming around to the idea, I think Nissan has realised that Litchfield is good, rather than bad, for GT-R business.


We managed to have a quick go, while on an airfield for some videos we're preparing. Not on the road and not in close proximity to a regular Track Edition GT-R, so we'll report back another time with a proper drive. But it's good: loads of power, evenly delivered, with surefooted handling, and, yeah, more steering feel than I remember - although it has been a while.

More details, then, when we pop back over to Gloucestershire for a proper drive. Alternatively, if you just can't wait, there's plenty of Litchfield's handiwork to be found in the classifieds, including everything from a Stage 1 to Stage 5 upgrade, and even a breathed-on Prestige model from horse's mouth. Alternatively, there's an unregistered 2018 Nismo waiting for a home, too. Choices, choices.


 





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rtz62

Original Poster:

3,360 posts

155 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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“...And turn it up to 11”
If only I could turn my settee upside down and shake out all the money I KNOW is in there.

ZX10R NIN

27,574 posts

125 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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This will be a sweet car I've had a drive of the LM20 & it's a very sweet drive now this at only a smidge under 100k is a real bargain especially considering it has a seam welded chassis.

406dogvan

5,326 posts

265 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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I'm old enough to have that voice in my head - the one which says "£100K for a Nissan!!!???" - and I know, I know etc. etc.

I do find myself wondering what the point is to the GT-R tho (other than raw number/feature bragging rights)??

I like how it looks - until I see one in reality when it's FAR too big - it's a 2+2 coupe the size of an E Class!!

It's clearly too big/heavy to be a "track car" and most will, at best, do a couple of runway/track days so the owner can try out the numbers.
"Fully Seam-Welded" - isn't really needed for that ;0

That they sold few 'track editions' says much - that they sell any of these at-all is testament to the fact some people just like some things (and that's fine of course)

It is one of those cars which is hard to explain tho - it makes little sense and maybe that's it's appeal - and £100K certainly reinforces that aspect ;0




arkenphel

484 posts

205 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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The point it exists is for the owner to enjoy. Not all of us want a Lotus for trackdays... I get to get the point of Loti and Caterhams,but I'd much rather have padded seats and Aircon on my track car, thank you very much.

I'm not a small feller and couldn't fit into a track car without looking quite out of place.

I don't get why track cars HAVE to be stripped out super lightweight cars. As long as you're having fun, it shouldn't matter what anyone else drives



Edited by arkenphel on Saturday 30th June 14:12

ZX10R NIN

27,574 posts

125 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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406dogvan said:
I'm old enough to have that voice in my head - the one which says "£100K for a Nissan!!!???" - and I know, I know etc. etc.

I do find myself wondering what the point is to the GT-R tho (other than raw number/feature bragging rights)??

I like how it looks - until I see one in reality when it's FAR too big - it's a 2+2 coupe the size of an E Class!!

It's clearly too big/heavy to be a "track car" and most will, at best, do a couple of runway/track days so the owner can try out the numbers.
"Fully Seam-Welded" - isn't really needed for that ;0

That they sold few 'track editions' says much - that they sell any of these at-all is testament to the fact some people just like some things (and that's fine of course)

It is one of those cars which is hard to explain tho - it makes little sense and maybe that's it's appeal - and £100K certainly reinforces that aspect ;0
They're actually a good drivers car in standard form, you're right it's not a track car in the conventional sense but compare it to an M6 which can be used on track & the GT-R looks like a bargain, as for it's size a 991 is pretty much the same size & the 180kg difference isn't an issue on the road.

The way the LM20 drove was better than standard the differences could be felt in normal driving conditions & for the money I think it's a bit of a bargain when compared to 2 door performance coupes.

BeillyNoy

389 posts

236 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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I'm one of the four.
I previously owned a standard car (64 plate), but the new Track Edition driving dynamics are that little bit better in every way.
One of the automotive world's best kept secrets IMO.

And that’s before Litchfield work their magic on it....

N.

Edited by BeillyNoy on Saturday 30th June 17:30

Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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406dogvan said:
I do find myself wondering what the point is to the GT-R tho (other than raw number/feature bragging rights)??
What's the point of something more expensive and slower? Image to impress the neighbours?

Baddie

612 posts

217 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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Like the Noble M12, the GTR is a track weapon. Both cars just have it all covered on a circuit, no weak areas, except you can feel the GTR’s weight. Yes it can slow down well and corners unfeasibly quickly, but you can feel the tread blocks squirming under the forces involved.

Speaking personally, the GTR is too capable to be enjoyable as a road car, it’s overall performance envelop (as opposed to just acceleration) is would just be frustratingly huge.

Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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Baddie said:
Like the Noble M12, the GTR is a track weapon. Both cars just have it all covered on a circuit, no weak areas, except you can feel the GTR’s weight. Yes it can slow down well and corners unfeasibly quickly, but you can feel the tread blocks squirming under the forces involved.

Speaking personally, the GTR is too capable to be enjoyable as a road car, it’s overall performance envelop (as opposed to just acceleration) is would just be frustratingly huge.
Which current performance has a small enough performance envelop it can be push to the limit on the road? The only car I can think of that would met that requirement is the Morgan 3 wheeler.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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BeillyNoy said:
I'm one of the four.
I previously owned a standard car (64 plate), but the new Track Edition driving dynamics are that little bit better in every way.
One of the automotive world's best kept secrets IMO.

And that’s before Litchfield work their magic on it....

N.

Edited by BeillyNoy on Saturday 30th June 17:30
Interesting

What, honestly, is the difference between a 2008MY one (let's say £40k), that you would modify to get better intercoolers, suspension, brakes and tyres along with new sportier ECU tune (let's be generous and say £20k) and one of these that costs £95k...aside from warranty :-)

Baddie

612 posts

217 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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Fittster said:
Baddie said:
Like the Noble M12, the GTR is a track weapon. Both cars just have it all covered on a circuit, no weak areas, except you can feel the GTR’s weight. Yes it can slow down well and corners unfeasibly quickly, but you can feel the tread blocks squirming under the forces involved.

Speaking personally, the GTR is too capable to be enjoyable as a road car, it’s overall performance envelop (as opposed to just acceleration) is would just be frustratingly huge.
Which current performance has a small enough performance envelop it can be push to the limit on the road? The only car I can think of that would met that requirement is the Morgan 3 wheeler.
Used to have a 3.8 M5, that was ok to enjoy at the time, but probably not in the same way now. Drove a friend’s E61 M5, that was definitely too much for me.

Have an E85 Z4 2.5i, seems about right. Enough oomph to push 225 rear tires, not so much that top end of third gear is banning country, and sounds nice on the way there

stuart-b

3,643 posts

226 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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xjay1337 said:
BeillyNoy said:
I'm one of the four.
I previously owned a standard car (64 plate), but the new Track Edition driving dynamics are that little bit better in every way.
One of the automotive world's best kept secrets IMO.

And that’s before Litchfield work their magic on it....

N.

Edited by BeillyNoy on Saturday 30th June 17:30
Interesting

What, honestly, is the difference between a 2008MY one (let's say £40k), that you would modify to get better intercoolers, suspension, brakes and tyres along with new sportier ECU tune (let's be generous and say £20k) and one of these that costs £95k...aside from warranty :-)
The difference is it’s not 10 years old! There has been a lot of subtle changes in that time, let alone the age element. Your maths mean a brand new 3 year warranty, performance seam welded car is 35k more. That’s 3.5k a year depreciation if this was a standard car, which it isn’t. That’s less than a 320d.

There’s your answer. Spending 60k on a 10 year old one would be more madness than buying this.

borat52

563 posts

208 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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Baddie said:
Fittster said:
Baddie said:
Like the Noble M12, the GTR is a track weapon. Both cars just have it all covered on a circuit, no weak areas, except you can feel the GTR’s weight. Yes it can slow down well and corners unfeasibly quickly, but you can feel the tread blocks squirming under the forces involved.

Speaking personally, the GTR is too capable to be enjoyable as a road car, it’s overall performance envelop (as opposed to just acceleration) is would just be frustratingly huge.
Which current performance has a small enough performance envelop it can be push to the limit on the road? The only car I can think of that would met that requirement is the Morgan 3 wheeler.
Used to have a 3.8 M5, that was ok to enjoy at the time, but probably not in the same way now. Drove a friend’s E61 M5, that was definitely too much for me.

Have an E85 Z4 2.5i, seems about right. Enough oomph to push 225 rear tires, not so much that top end of third gear is banning country, and sounds nice on the way there
Agree, I’ve got a 800bhp R35 and the problem in the road is that once rolling you’re 3 seconds from doing silly speeds, and it can pretty much hold those speeds round corners which means you won’t have a license for long if you want to enjoy driving the car.

Also own a 1999 impreza Sti, much more enjoyable on the road because it’s not as quick in a straight line and can’t corner as well which makes it more of challenge without needing to do 100+mph to push the limits.

406dogvan

5,326 posts

265 months

Sunday 1st July 2018
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Fittster said:
406dogvan said:
I do find myself wondering what the point is to the GT-R tho (other than raw number/feature bragging rights)??
What's the point of something more expensive and slower? Image to impress the neighbours?
The thing about cars is that image is absolutely front-and-centre - whether you seek it or seek to avoid it, cars are ALL about image.

It's not just 'prestige image' or 'racing history' - every car has some sort of image (even if it's that it's not got a high-profile image!!)

No-one buys a GT-R because they wandered into a Nissan dealer and it seemed nice - the GT-R sells to people who love GT-Rs, the Gran Turismo generation - it's image is why Nissan can sell it for that price when most of their cars are 1/4-or-less that sort of cash (and almost none would appeal to someone looking for a GT-R)

As for "expensive" and "slower" - those things are contextual and relative - there's always something cheaper/more expensive/faster/slower than your car - people make choices (which, as I said earlier, is fine) but some cars are just a bit 'out there' and the GT-R, to me, is one such car (I do wonder if Sony shouldn't get royalities on every one sold! smile )

snuffy

9,709 posts

284 months

Sunday 1st July 2018
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xjay1337 said:
Interesting

What, honestly, is the difference between a 2008MY one (let's say £40k), that you would modify to get better intercoolers, suspension, brakes and tyres along with new sportier ECU tune (let's be generous and say £20k) and one of these that costs £95k...aside from warranty :-)
One is a 10 year old car is one is brand new.


big_rob_sydney

3,401 posts

194 months

Sunday 1st July 2018
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406dogvan said:
Fittster said:
406dogvan said:
I do find myself wondering what the point is to the GT-R tho (other than raw number/feature bragging rights)??
What's the point of something more expensive and slower? Image to impress the neighbours?
The thing about cars is that image is absolutely front-and-centre - whether you seek it or seek to avoid it, cars are ALL about image.

It's not just 'prestige image' or 'racing history' - every car has some sort of image (even if it's that it's not got a high-profile image!!)

No-one buys a GT-R because they wandered into a Nissan dealer and it seemed nice - the GT-R sells to people who love GT-Rs, the Gran Turismo generation - it's image is why Nissan can sell it for that price when most of their cars are 1/4-or-less that sort of cash (and almost none would appeal to someone looking for a GT-R)

As for "expensive" and "slower" - those things are contextual and relative - there's always something cheaper/more expensive/faster/slower than your car - people make choices (which, as I said earlier, is fine) but some cars are just a bit 'out there' and the GT-R, to me, is one such car (I do wonder if Sony shouldn't get royalities on every one sold! smile )
The GTR is inching its way up the price bracket and into territory normally fielded by prestige brands. Good luck to them, and I've not got any personal issue with it, other than observing it in marketing terms.

I suspect for a lot of people, the image means a lot.

Not sure this is a direction I'm personally interested though. I believe in the bang for buck, value for money proposition. A liter bike is £10k, quicker in a straight line, and arguably more fun. That leaves £90k to put a tin roof over my head for the DD. Possible?

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Sunday 1st July 2018
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BeillyNoy said:
I'm one of the four.
I previously owned a standard car (64 plate), but the new Track Edition driving dynamics are that little bit better in every way.
One of the automotive world's best kept secrets IMO.

And that’s before Litchfield work their magic on it....

N.

Edited by BeillyNoy on Saturday 30th June 17:30
Pics please.

I suspect very few TP and Nismo were sold in the second generation, because of the lack of investor interest in the first generation.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Sunday 1st July 2018
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snuffy said:
One is a 10 year old car is one is brand new.
Thanks for that insight! Brainwave ! smile

borat52

563 posts

208 months

Sunday 1st July 2018
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406dogvan said:
Fittster said:
406dogvan said:
I do find myself wondering what the point is to the GT-R tho (other than raw number/feature bragging rights)??
What's the point of something more expensive and slower? Image to impress the neighbours?
The thing about cars is that image is absolutely front-and-centre - whether you seek it or seek to avoid it, cars are ALL about image.

It's not just 'prestige image' or 'racing history' - every car has some sort of image (even if it's that it's not got a high-profile image!!)

No-one buys a GT-R because they wandered into a Nissan dealer and it seemed nice - the GT-R sells to people who love GT-Rs, the Gran Turismo generation - it's image is why Nissan can sell it for that price when most of their cars are 1/4-or-less that sort of cash (and almost none would appeal to someone looking for a GT-R)

As for "expensive" and "slower" - those things are contextual and relative - there's always something cheaper/more expensive/faster/slower than your car - people make choices (which, as I said earlier, is fine) but some cars are just a bit 'out there' and the GT-R, to me, is one such car (I do wonder if Sony shouldn't get royalities on every one sold! smile )
What you have with a GTR (even now) is something brand new that’s £70k less than a 911 turbo S but pretty much as quick in a straight line and round a track. Let’s not forget they were only £52k back in 2009!

It’s not really got anything to do with a PlayStation, or the desire to either own a car with a certain image or avoid another image. It’s got to do with the fact it’s as quick as you can go for as little as you can spend on a new car.

Then add the ability to tune it to near 700bhp for about £5k and even today it stands on its own in performance per £.

Oz83

688 posts

139 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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I think for many people who grew up playing Gran Turismo, a GT-R is an itch that needs to be scratched. Or at least experienced as a passenger. Sadly, I think a new one has moved slightly out of reach of the average car enthusiast. But there are loads of good used ones out there at half the price.

I had a good look round a MY18 on Saturday and the exterior styling/details and interior finish are way ahead of the older models. Is it a £100k car. I'd say yes, absolutely. The track edition looks perfect to me, and the Litchfield version seems a relative bargain.