RE: Noble M600: PH Carpool

RE: Noble M600: PH Carpool

Monday 9th July 2018

Noble M600: PH Carpool

A year into Noble ownership and this PHer could hardly be happier!



Name: Lee Sinden
Car: Noble M600
Owned since: June 2017
Previously owned: Many TVRs, Ferrari 360 Spider, Audi R8, Lamborghini Diablo, Morgan Aero Supersports and Mercedes SLS AMG.

Why I bought it:
"I first discovered and fell in love with the Noble M600 at the Autosport show hosted at the NEC back in January 2012. The car in question was finished in 'naked' carbon fibre with a tinted blue lacquer. I remember standing in awe looking at the perfection of the visible carbon fibre weave, the shape, fit and finish and, of course, those mighty performance figures. It really was love at first sight, but sadly very much out of my price range at the time.

"As the past few years have ticked by, the limited number of journalist reviews I'd seen on the M600 all gave the car immense praise and described it as a modern day Ferrari F40. The dream of owning a Noble M600 never went away.

"Although there are currently only around 25 M600s in existence, by sheer luck I stumbled across a used factory car that Noble Automotive themselves were selling that just fell within my budget. Being a factory owned car, she'd been exceptionally well maintained and was fitted with the latest updates. A test drive had me grinning like a Cheshire cat and after some negotiations I was part of the Noble family."


Things I love:
"The M600 is a very focused driver's car, for people who love DRIVING.

"With a proper manual gearbox it feels like an old-school analogue supercar from the future. The on-the-fly adjustable engine mapping (450, 550 or 650hp) enables you to select the right amount of power for the road ahead at the simple turn of a dial. As you bury the loud pedal, you're catapulted towards the horizon and a sonorous V8 growl akin to an American muscle car engulfs the cockpit. A split second later fluttering noises join the V8 orchestra as the turbos come on song and warp mode starts. The whole experience is very intoxicating.

"Pushing on through the twisty stuff over dips or crests the car never feels unsettled or skittish. The chassis and suspension setup is magical. Firm enough to inspire confidence yet soft enough to iron the road surface beneath you as you make significant progress. The steering is perfectly weighted and gives great feedback. The gearchange is very precise and the pedals are well spaced for some heel and toe action. The car demands to be driven properly and the way it sticks to the road is pure witchcraft. The dimensions and proportions give a purposeful look while still being narrow enough to use in anger down a twisty country road.

"The carbon fibre body shell is a work of art. The quality and pattern of the carbon weave is perfect and I'm sure even Mr Pagani himself would be mighty impressed. The general quality of the M600's construction is excellent and certainly up there with the very best of the competition.

"The buying experience of an M600 is a rather special affair, too, as you get to deal directly with the team at the factory including the MD of Noble Automotive, Peter Boutwood. Peter's a delightful guy to deal with and has a wealth of knowledge about his product and always has a story to tell about the early development and testing days. Above all, you're really made to feel part of the family rather than just another customer in a swanky showroom. I really like that.

"I love the fact that the M600 is relatively unknown and yet in the hands of the right driver its capabilities are arguably better than alternatives on offer from the likes of Lamborghini and Ferrari. With a Bugatti Veyron beating power to weight ratio of 542hp per tonne, it's mind-blowingly fast - a true giant slayer. As everyone moves to the latest automatic gearboxes and gets hung up on Nordschleife lap times, finding purist manual cars is becoming ever increasingly difficult. Whilst the large majority of us would probably set better lap times in a Nissan GT-R, I don't see the fun in piloting a computer with all the cheat modes activated.

"I previously toyed with the prospect of owning a Porsche Cayman GT4 or an Aston V12 Vantage - both of which are great driver's cars that I'd be happy to own, but lack the pace and sparkle that the M600 delivers in such abundance.


Things I hate:
"My main gripe about the car is the interior. The ergonomics work well and the fit and finish is second to none but the architecture is just starting to feel a little dated compared to the some of the competition. Noble has recently introduced a new touch screen infotainment system which goes some way to addressing the issue.

"My only other criticism is the lack of ABS, although in Noble's defence the standard Alcon brake setup does a superb job at stopping such a light weight supercar. Even under very hard use I've never experienced the wheels locking up, so there's a strong argument that ABS isn't needed."


Costs:
"The M600 is a bespoke hand-built supercar. As such, it's never going to be cheap to buy, run and maintain. However, compared to other bespoke, low volume, carbon fibre hand-built supercars with comparable performance (think Pagani, Koenigsegg and the like), my man maths tells me the base purchase price of around £270k is a bit of a bargain!

"Considering the performance on tap, the insurance, running and servicing costs are fairly reasonable due to the car's simplicity of design and lightweight construction. Failures and breakdowns should be very few and far between due to high quality components being sourced in the first place. Nothing has gone wrong yet and I don't expect any issues in the future."

What next:
"After experimenting with many cars over the years, I'm relieved to have finally found a car that I've fully bonded with. I've always had a desire to order a brand new car though, built to my specification and to keep forever; therefore unless a huge lottery win provides me with the funds to buy a McLaren F1 or Ferrari F50, my next step will likely be a brand new M600. Watch this space..."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Discussion

Gameface

Original Poster:

16,565 posts

77 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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Fantastic.

Always had a soft spot for these. I love the roadster.

The interior looks much better than it did it it's previous colour scheme.

They will be along soon I'm sure, but anyone who says the words "kit car" on this thread should be banned.

Cambs_Stuart

2,868 posts

84 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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What I would do for one of these. Just fantastic car.

myhandle

1,187 posts

174 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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Very good. I had a drive in one from SVR last year, which was this colour but had white wheels, perhaps this is the same car with some alterations made. Either way, it's a great car and I agree with everything you have said about it. Part of the sales pitch was that for a mega-performance supercar it is (apparently) very cheap to service.

Shiv_P

2,746 posts

105 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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Go leicester!!

snuffy

9,752 posts

284 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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As some who owned a Noble M12 for quite a long time (6 years) I do feel the M600 looks very dated. In fact, I think it's styling was dated from day 1.


Gameface

Original Poster:

16,565 posts

77 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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I'm not sure why your reference to your M12 is relevant? Chalk and cheese.

As for the looks, I can understand they might not be to everyone's taste, but personally I like them.

lockhart flawse

2,041 posts

235 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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Great car OP - you're a lucky man. I also love the M600 and, if I were ever in the position to spend that sort of money on a car, that's where the money would go. McLaren orange with some blue accents - same as the current F1 car!

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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snuffy said:
As some who owned a Noble M12 for quite a long time (6 years) I do feel the M600 looks very dated. In fact, I think it's styling was dated from day 1.
M12 (and relations) was a very good alternative to Lotus Esprit and at a relatively sensible price.

Anyone know how many M600 have actually been built and sold? It doesn't exactly seem to have taken the supercar market by storm. Reminds me of the Bugatti 110.

pwd95

8,383 posts

238 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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wavey
Hi Lee, nice motor mate. thumbup One of my faves....

Turbobanana

6,263 posts

201 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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Shame you had to ditch the front plate to get it in budget smile

Lovely car, enjoy!

Resolutionary

1,259 posts

171 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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I was at the NEC in 2012 and the same M600 had me bedazzled.

This is a lovely real-life write up of something I dream to, but probably won't ever get. I'm happy to hear someone enjoying their ownership of such a magnificent, UK made low production vehicle - especially when there has been such a lot of hyperbole surrounding this car on the PH forums.

Styling wise, while I would agree the M600 isn't ground breaking or overtly a fashion accessory, they are handsome things and have aged well, considering their contemporaries and how long the design has been around.

Well done Lee, keep us updated!

e30m3Mark

16,205 posts

173 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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Top of the list for when the lotto win comes. I don't know what it is exactly but I'd have this over any other super car. I like its understated styling and the lack of electronic driver aids. It'd make a perfect companion for my E30 M3. cloud9

Gameface

Original Poster:

16,565 posts

77 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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Aes87 said:
I used to be into performance - power to weight etc. - but am now far more into character and the experience of the drive at low to mid speeds, preferably with the roof down with all this good weather (shortlist is Z3 M Roadster / 356 Speedster replica). I frankly couldn't care about carbon fibre and big horsepower / price tags anymore
Great. confused

BRR

1,846 posts

172 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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Great write-up and an awesome car smile

redroadster

1,738 posts

232 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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Pleased it exists thinks its way too much money but hey if it sells good i think the smaller m400 was a better package for the money and prob feels as quick boosted up ?

redroadster

1,738 posts

232 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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Pleased it exists thinks its way too much money but hey if it sells good i think the smaller m400 was a better package for the money and prob feels as quick boosted up ?

Swampy1982

3,305 posts

111 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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Hi,

Thanks for taking the time to tell us all the really life view of what appears to be a truly fantastic car

Just one question, considering that the car is factory owned, and ticks lots of the option boxes, what's the appeal to specing a new one, what would that have that this one doesn't?

If you need help selling this beautiful machine then add me on the insurance, I'll happily do my commute in it with a "for sale" sign in the window to ensure the buying public get to see it... I'm sure thatll be the most effective selling method!

J4CKO

41,530 posts

200 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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Impressive car, though I think I would regard it a bit like how the strange neighbour from Friday Night Dinner regards his Alsatian, i.e. a bit scared of it, 600 bhp, mid engined and no driver aids.

One thing that puzzles me is how Noble went from the earlier cars, which were comparatively affordable to these which were several times more expensive, then nothing ?

macky17

2,212 posts

189 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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"Whilst the large majority of us would probably set better lap times in a Nissan GT-R, I don't see the fun in piloting a computer with all the cheat modes activated."

What a perfect turn of phrase. Yes exactly, and the reason I would almost certainly choose the M600 over the competition if I had the funds. Terrific car, sir.

MrFQ

26 posts

136 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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It's actually for sale - https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

So you are getting a new one!

Good timing on the article or advert biggrin

Would love one of these if I had the cash.