RE: BAC Mono Festival of Speed run: Time For Coffee

RE: BAC Mono Festival of Speed run: Time For Coffee

Monday 16th July 2018

BAC Mono Festival of Speed run: Time For Coffee?

Anthony Reid takes Goodwood honours as BAC beats Aston Martin, Ford and Porsche up the hill



If you wanted to go fast at Goodwood this year, electric propulsion was the way to do it. Both the VW ID R and Nio EP9 trounced the field in the Festival of Speed shootout, ahead of F3 cars, IMSA prototypes, Indycars and more. The future is most certainly here; who knows, perhaps an autonomous car isn't far from topping the time sheets?

That said, in the roadgoing supercar shootout, internal combustion still dominated. One in particular, in fact, as the 2.5-litre BAC Mono topped the time sheets with a 49.13-second time. Not only was that enough to be crowned fastest supercar at the Festival of Speed, it's also the quickest ever supercar up the hill - beating Jann Mardenborough's 49.27 run in 2014, driving a GT-R NISMO.


The Mono faced some potent competition for bragging rights, the shootout also featuring a 911 GT2 RS (50.38 seconds), Ford GT (51.63) and Aston Martin Vulcan (51.66).

Former BTCC driver Anthony Reid was driving the Mono, describing the car as "so accessible and agile that it lapped up the challenge all week." Co-founder Ian Briggs added: "It feels amazing to be the fastest supercar ever to take on the event and hammers home just how amazing a machine Mono is."

BAC's video of the run is fairly rudimentary, but just plonking a camera on the front splitter does at least do a good job of conveying the speed. Like many track focused lightweights, it's the corner speed that's most staggering, of course aided in this instance by more than 300hp. What must it be like on a bigger circuit? Hopefully that's a question we can answer very soon. For now, enjoy the vid!

 

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hondansx

Original Poster:

4,569 posts

225 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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Its not a supercar.

Plus, it's basically a single seater with some bodywork - not a cheap one either. I therefore expect it to be quick up the hill as it is, let's face it, a one trick pony.

Paddy78

208 posts

146 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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The times highlight just how impressive the Nismo GTR is, being that it has to haul an additional 1100kg up that hill. Also half the price of the GT2 RS if you wanted a passenger. I'm surprised at how (relatively) slow the Vulcan is. Maybe they weren't pushing as I would have expected it to be quicker given the better power to weight compared to the Porker.

Turbobanana

6,266 posts

201 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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It probably helps that the driver has won the Shootout twice in the past, too.

redroadster

1,738 posts

232 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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Think been a open top single seater with no doors it should b in a different cat its a nice bit of kit though .im wondering how a 1000 bhp ultima would compare to the top times ?

Cotty

39,539 posts

284 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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hondansx said:
Its not a supercar.

Plus, it's basically a single seater with some bodywork - not a cheap one either. I therefore expect it to be quick up the hill as it is, let's face it, a one trick pony.
Exactly what I was thinking. Its a road going single seater.

neil-1323bolts

1,083 posts

106 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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Did a caterham 620r not go a tad quicker last year ? I thought it was a 49. Something run

Bobo W

764 posts

252 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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At the risk of opening one of those perennial can of pistonhead worms - why wouldn't it be classified as a supercar?


anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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Bobo W said:
At the risk of opening one of those perennial can of pistonhead worms - why wouldn't it be classified as a supercar?
Because people that own Ferrari’s, Mclarens and lambo’s are huge snobs smile


Cotty

39,539 posts

284 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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Bobo W said:
At the risk of opening one of those perennial can of pistonhead worms - why wouldn't it be classified as a supercar?
I am not sure there is a exact definition but I agree with the "luxury, high-performance sports car or grand tourer" bit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercar

A single seater is not a sports car, its a single seater. A sports car should have at least 2 seats.

TheJimi

24,986 posts

243 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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Bobo W said:
At the risk of opening one of those perennial can of pistonhead worms - why wouldn't it be classified as a supercar?
Because a supercar isn't *JUST* about performance and figures.

A supercar is a package; a combination of elements.

Stuff like the Mono is very single-minded. It focuses on performance to the detriment of almost everything else.

That's how I'd define the separation.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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TheJimi said:
Because a supercar isn't *JUST* about performance and figures.

A supercar is a package; a combination of elements.

Stuff like the Mono is very single-minded. It focuses on performance to the detriment of almost everything else.

That's how I'd define the separation.
So an NA1/2 NSX is a supercar?

TheJimi

24,986 posts

243 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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Nope, in the same way as I wouldn't regard something like a 911 Turbo to be a supercar.

...and before you bite my head off the NA1/2 NSX is one of my all time favourite cars at any price and resides in my top three dream-garage.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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TheJimi said:
Nope, in the same way as I wouldn't regard something like a 911 Turbo to be a supercar.

...and before you bite my head off the NA1/2 NSX is one of my all time favourite cars at any price and resides in my top three dream-garage.
Well, it is. Because of its ethos and construction, the design envelope that it pushed made it so.

Like I said. It’s just all pure snobbery. A GT2RS is absolutely as special as an MP4, no question. The days of countach’s and woman scratching their backside holding a tennnis ball are long gone. As is the term supercar. Is a Noble a supercar, it’s all subjective.

TheJimi

24,986 posts

243 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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You're picking a fight for no other reason than to pick a fight.

How did you read my post above about the Mono then fling the NSX thing at me?

How did you read this -

TheJimi said:
Because a supercar isn't *JUST* about performance and figures.

A supercar is a package; a combination of elements.

Stuff like the Mono is very single-minded. It focuses on performance to the detriment of almost everything else.

That's how I'd define the separation.
Then decide that an appropriate response would be this -

yonex said:
So an NA1/2 NSX is a supercar?
Along with women scratching their arses holding tennis balls? WTF are you talking about?

Then after all that, you say that it's subjective?!

LOL


Edited by TheJimi on Monday 16th July 22:26

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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It is. Look at my history. I owned an NSX and love the Mono.

The concept of a car being ‘super’ when every performance metric evolves is silly. Is a Dino supercar, an E Type. Bentley blower?

It’s subjective

TheJimi

24,986 posts

243 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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Jesus Christ.

Read my first post again, carefully, this time.

I specifically said there's more to a supercar than just performance metrics.

fking hell banghead

Edited by TheJimi on Monday 16th July 22:45

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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TheJimi said:
Jesus Christ.

Read my first post again, carefully, this time.

I specifically said there's more to a supercar than just performance metrics.

fking hell banghead

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 16th July 22:45
We’ll I appreciate the Mono. It’s faster than many ‘supercars’, likely more fun. The term is totally outdated.



TheJimi

24,986 posts

243 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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yonex said:
We’ll I appreciate the Mono. It’s faster than many ‘supercars’, likely more fun. The term is totally outdated.
Good for you.

Although, evidently, you've still failed to comprehend what I said.




Edited by TheJimi on Monday 16th July 23:04

SpudLink

5,784 posts

192 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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Wow, it really is true that every thread turns into an argument.

However you categorise it, the Mono would be the first car in my lottery win garage.

I agree that it’s single minded on being a driver’s toy at the expense of everything else. But I don’t think it’s only about being the fastest. From what I’ve read it’s actually fun to drive, and accessible to those who are not driving gods. That’s unlikely to be the case if you spent the money on an ex F3 racecar, which has been suggested in other threads.

sisu

2,580 posts

173 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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That needs a V6 - using the Formula Renault 3.5 V6 which is a Nissan engine. Rather than a Ford Ecotech that sounds like a Focus ST
https://youtu.be/QchT3bQjgp0