RE: McLaren MP4-12C: Spotted

RE: McLaren MP4-12C: Spotted

Saturday 21st July 2018

McLaren MP4-12C: Spotted

Get in quick - this is the cheapest 12C in the country right now, and it looks a good'un!



It's hard to know what to think about the McLaren 12C. Here's a car which was widely lauded when new, but also criticised for lacking that little extra something. It's a car, too, which some aspiring enthusiasts struggle to get excited about, perhaps because it lacks the visual drama of, say, a Ferrari 458 Italia. Yet it's also a car which is beloved by its owners, who boast of a suite of talents more rounded than any supercar of its ilk - and unbeatable at the price.

What price is that, then? Well, for a long time the 12C has hovered around the £100,000 mark, which has made it seem good value versus the Ferrari, but rather pricier than an R8 V10 or a 911 Turbo. Of course, the counter-argument to that last point goes that the Macca is a class above either of those rivals; a genuine supercar with F1 technology and knowledge running through its veins.


The thing is, 12C prices are again, gradually, dropping. As evinced by this example - the cheapest we've yet seen online, and as far as we can tell, the bottom of the market in the UK at the moment. Granted, it isn't the most desirable 12C going - it's an early example, badged MP4-12C and introduced before a raft of upgrades that gave the model more sparkle.

Nevertheless, an early MP4-12C is still a very tempting thing at less than £80k. This is, lest we forget, about than the cost of an entry-level 911 with a couple of options on it. And the 12C is just as usable, too, as many of its owners will attest - fuel consumption is reasonable, seats are comfortable, and around town it's considerably less tricky than its Italian rival, while still offering the same level of pace and involvement out on the open road, or as near as makes no difference.


Downsides? Well, these aren't unreliable cars, but they are costly to fix when they do go wrong. McLaren parts are notoriously expensive, and independent specialists are few and far between, meaning you'll probably want to take it back to the dealer for work to be done, all of which is a pricey business. But McLaren's extended warranty is comprehensive, and covers cars aged up to 12 years old. So factor in the cost of extending it each year and an annual service - you should see change back from five grand all-in - and you shouldn't have any unpleasant surprise to worry about. And let's face it - running a 458 isn't exactly a business for the faint-of-wallet.

All of which makes this 12C a very tempting prospect. To hell with the naysayers; this is a bona fide McLaren supercar for a very reasonable price, and a proper supercar with a motorsport pedigree that you can nevertheless use every day, should the mood take you. All this for £80k? Where do we sign?


SPECIFICATION: MCLAREN MP4-12C

Engine: 3,799cc V8 twin-turbo
Transmission: 7-speed dual-clutch automated manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 600@7,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 443@3,000-6,500rpm
MPG: 24.2
CO2: 279g/km
First registered: 2012
Recorded mileage: 29,000
Price new: £168,500
Yours for: £79,995

See the original advert here.

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chazwozza

Original Poster:

334 posts

125 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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That is very tempting. Just need another £79k!

rare6499

237 posts

78 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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I’ve heard part supply is becoming a problem on these...

Not sure it’s where I would put my 80k. Long term it would feel better spent on a Porsche IMO.

spikyone

284 posts

39 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Lovely. My favourite colour combination for the 12C; if my numbers come up tonight they'll be putting a "sold" sticker on it first thing tomorrow.

Itsallicanafford

1,918 posts

98 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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I had this discussion with a friend who was looking for a £80k performance car and the MP4-C came up as a left field option. Thing is, it’s a £170k supercar built by a niche manufacturer in limited numbers with all the associated costs this entails. If he was In The market for a £100k + car then fine, buy this and you have slush fund for the bills. But the asking price was a stretch so he went Porsche GT4...I think he made the right decision.

Oz83

365 posts

78 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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I'd have one of these in a heartbeat. The design is way more cohesive than a 650s. Future classic maybe?
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HardMiles

181 posts

25 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Oz83 said:
I'd have one of these in a heartbeat. The design is way more cohesive than a 650s. Future classic maybe?
Totally agree, I think they took more time in designing a more classic looking machine so that they could get a customer base before forming their newer bloodline, much prefer the older stuff.

Also agree with the guy that said all I need is £79k and it’d be mine! :-) made me chuckle!

roger1361

57 posts

74 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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The design is pure and beautiful, the best looking McLaren of all excepting the F1. Is this a wise place to put my £80k ? well I dont think it is sadly not when theres the, less interesting , but safer default choice in Porsche

Gameface

7,534 posts

16 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Article mentions the upgrades/updates. Surely these will all have been done?

isaldiri

4,367 posts

107 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Gameface said:
Article mentions the upgrades/updates. Surely these will all have been done?
Very sloppy article. Other than the nav unit hardware upgrade to iris2, all other upgrades that 'added sparkle' per the article were software and would have been done long ago when the car was serviced at the dealership.

TP321

1,131 posts

137 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Some say, that I am not McLarens biggest fan biggrin, but this really is a no brainer!!. Yikes

BOR

3,826 posts

194 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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I saw the add for this a couple of days ago, and was surprised how low the prices have dropped.

I thought there might have been a story behind this one, but it looks like that's simply the way prices are going.

At first glance, 80k seems like good value, but this is one of those cars where running costs (warranty/servicing) are so high, that it could make sense to get a newer, more expensive model.

McLaren's stranglehold on spare part supply could bite them if the cars are seen to be unsaleable due to high maintenance costs for third / forth owners.

s2000db

781 posts

92 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Or for twice the price, you can get a brand new top of the range car!!

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

TP321

1,131 posts

137 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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BOR said:
At first glance, 80k seems like good value, but this is one of those cars where running costs (warranty/servicing) are so high, that it could make sense to get a newer, more expensive model.
..but the problem with that is that you just lose a fortune on depreciation. At least this one seems to have definitely found the bottom.

Gandahar

6,195 posts

67 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Great wheels and colour combo.

Exhausts look goppin but can be easily changed.

Would be good to strip out and tune for track days,



garystoybox

166 posts

56 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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TP321 said:
..but the problem with that is that you just lose a fortune on depreciation. At least this one seems to have definitely found the bottom.
Do you think? I remember the Mclaren ‘experts’ commenting what a bargain they were at £110k, then at £100k, then..... etc, etc. Why would they not keep depreciating as they have? The older they get, the more difficult they get to sell. Surely unless there’s a change of policy from Mclaren on supporting independents it will be business as usual.

Lovely car for the money, but surely over two years ownership warranty and servicing c£13k, depreciation, if used, c£15k. Dealer spread on trade in/SOR £8k? So probably £35-£40k ownership proposition (that’s assuming cash buyer and no interest payments).


Butter Face

18,059 posts

99 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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s2000db said:
Or for twice the price, you can get a brand new top of the range car!!

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
More than twice the price and not brand new.

Why not just go all in and spend £400k on a Aventador SV, it’s onky twice the price....

big_rob_sydney

2,236 posts

133 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Some of you have some...interesting perspectives. You talk about the place to park money, and yet I wonder if you've bothered to read the article.

For those incapable of reading (and one wonders where such people would find the money under such illiterate circumstances...) the prices are still dropping.

Yes, by all means, this may reverse itself in future. But this very car is an example of the price going the wrong way for the "investors." Remember kids, stay in school!

macdeb

7,259 posts

194 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Looks fantastic for an £80k car, stunning. I'd have one if I could, just the running costs of having to have a warranty. 911? not for me.

GranCab

1,392 posts

85 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Depreciation on all 'production' McLarens appears to be horrendous and they seem to be difficult to move on at sensible money, for example, there are disproportionate number for sale privately on the UK Supercars For Sale Facebook Group.

Considering they were 458 Italia money when new, they have dropped a massive percentage more in value as a used sale/buy.

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

109 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Supercar bargain of the century.
Things twice the price don't even get close.

This or a 360/F430 mmmmm let me think for a milli second. Why pay over the top for overrated prancing horse from yesteryear when you can have one of these