RE: PH Fleet: Renaultsport Clio 182

RE: PH Fleet: Renaultsport Clio 182

Thursday 2nd August 2018

PH Fleet: Renaultsport Clio 182

PH is never without a hot Clio for long. This one's been around for a bit longer than most, however...



When you’ve owned a car for many years, it becomes much more than just a motor vehicle. It’s a constant, a familiarity, something that takes you back home wherever you are or however you feel. Take the 2004 Racing Blue Renaultsport Clio you see on your screen here, which has been under my stewardship since May 2011. For the vast majority of this time this car has remained the ‘cock an inside wheel and rev the nuts off me’ hot hatch I’d always dreamt a 182 would be. It's been in my life for seven years now, and you know what? I’ll never sell it.

Mind you, I haven’t always felt this way. About 16 months ago I was close to flogging the darned thing. Having developed problem after problem in the second half of 2016 it seemed intent on making me drive it to a scrap yard and order it to be crushed. I’d grown frustrated after a string of niggles, all fairly minor (a seized caliper was followed by an untraceable misfire that was followed by an ABS issue, to name a few) but all demanded attention and more significantly, money. So I SORN’d the car and left it up on axle stands in a garage on the other side of town. It sat there for six months, gathering dust, looking tattier than the carpet in your local Wetherspoons.


I was planning on doing the minimum required to bring it back to a roadworthy state before selling it. But frustration fades in time, so when the garage door opened in the winter of 2017 I didn’t see a broken car; I saw the 182, painted in my very favourite colour, that had sat on my driveway back when I was a student in Leeds, waiting for the next wake up call to go and explore the twisting country roads that flashed into sight when you set out dead north on the Otley Road and landed in the Yorkshire Dales. The same car that had taught me the art of lift-off oversteer on track, or how to heel-and-toe without over revving or clunking the gearbox. Then there were the countless moments with friends, family and girlfriends that this very car, only my second car, had played a significant role in. I couldn’t abandon my 182 like that.

That somewhat emotional moment of realisation set me on a path I’m still on today. Having been reunited with my car on that bitterly cold morning in 2017, I decided there and then to restore it not just to roadworthiness, but to become the 182 I had always dreamt it would be: one that’s modified tastefully to become the ideal fast road and occasional track day car. Between then and now my wallet has bore the brunt of the parts supply, while my dear father, a mechanic of nearly 50 years, has bore the brunt of the work demands. The car was eager from day one, starting without complaint after only a battery recharge, oil check and three of turns of the starter. Over the following three months, the problems were fixed and, as if the car knew its fate depended on it, no others have developed since.


So what’s it like as it sits today? Let’s start with what was done before I nearly abandoned the car. The ECU was remapped at Renaultsport specialist K-Tec Racing in Dorset back in 2015 and the 2.0-litre F4R engine was producing a rolling road-tested 189hp. That 7hp gain over standard, impressive given the car’s then 120,000 odometer reading, was helped by the fitment of a Yozzasport cat-back exhaust system, which has a 2.5in bore and produces a lovely, raspy tone, as well as a K-Tec induction kit, which makes the car sound like it’s got independent throttle bodies. Big grin. A set of Pure Motorsport solid top mounts had also been fitted at about the same time, but other than that, the car was largely standard.

Having not carried passengers since becoming a motoring journalist (and gaining access to a fleet of new cars), upon the car’s return to the road in 2017 I decided to ditch the rear seats and fit lighter seats up front, all in a bid to boost the car’s power-to-weight ratio. I’ve kept the original interior parts in case I decide to return the car to standard one day, but for now its got a 330mm steering wheel, a flat carpet in the back and a part-leather Recaro Pole Position for the driver’s seat. I do intend to fit another Pole Position on the passenger side but, well, they’re quite expensive, so that’ll have to come later. For now, there’s a much cheaper Sparco R100 chair, a leftover from previous plans I’d had for the car, for guests.


The most recent modification, however, has also been the most significant. In the spring of 2018 I swapped the car’s set of Cup dampers and Eibach Pro-Kit springs (these were fitted almost immediately after I bought the car) for Bilstein B14 coilovers. What a transformation. Now the car not only corners flatter and feels more alert, it also, remarkably, rides better. It’s firm, there’s no doubt about it, but it’s no longer crashy at low pace. I recently had a go in the Hyundai i30N and it’s comparable to the Sport+ setting in that car, which I think illustrates just how sweet a setup the B14's is, because we love the Korean hot hatch at PH.

I now absolutely adore going for drives in the 182, which has slowly evolved into my occasional weekend toy and, in some circles, is regarded as a modern classic, which I love. It’s just had an auxiliary belt change and a full service, so it’s reliable (hooray), and I intend to take it on circuit at a Renault Sport track day in October. I’m not done with the enhancements, either, so there’s plenty to come, including a wheel refurb and some further chassis improvements.

Boy, am I glad I didn’t sell this car.


FACT SHEET

Car: 2004 Renault Clio Renaultsport 182

Run by: Sam Sheehan

Bought: May 2011

Mileage at purchase: 74,457

Mileage now: 124,623

Last month at a glance: Now the car is back to full health, the real fun can begin…





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ZX10R NIN

Original Poster:

27,566 posts

125 months

Thursday 2nd August 2018
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Nice work, love the colour I'm just not a fan of the black wheels a nice Anthracite for me.

Speed_Demon

2,662 posts

188 months

Thursday 2nd August 2018
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I'll never sell mine either. Currently my only car that I have to squeeze my 15 year old into but I plan on buying an old Volvo as a family shed soon. As soon as that is purchased I'll be going the fast road/track route too, strip it, insert full cage, BC coilovers (properly set up), quaife, BMS shifter on top of the ultraleggeras, ds2500s and whiteline arb and I am good to go biggrin

The problem is just where do you go after? What offers so many smiles per pound per miles. An s2000? I don't fit in one. An M3? Feels blunt in comparison. An Elise? Not many cheap ones about etc.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Thursday 2nd August 2018
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Sod the Clio. Tell us about the Lotus.

Sam Sheehan

71 posts

137 months

Thursday 2nd August 2018
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ZX10R NIN said:
Nice work, love the colour I'm just not a fan of the black wheels a nice Anthracite for me.
Agreed about the wheels - the satin black was a quick fix and the long-term plan has always been to go silver. When funds allow...

Speed_Demon said:
I'll never sell mine either. Currently my only car that I have to squeeze my 15 year old into but I plan on buying an old Volvo as a family shed soon. As soon as that is purchased I'll be going the fast road/track route too, strip it, insert full cage, BC coilovers (properly set up), quaife, BMS shifter on top of the ultraleggeras, ds2500s and whiteline arb and I am good to go biggrin

The problem is just where do you go after? What offers so many smiles per pound per miles. An s2000? I don't fit in one. An M3? Feels blunt in comparison. An Elise? Not many cheap ones about etc.
I was tempted by an S2000 a few years ago. I would love an E46 M3 but only as another car, I'd not chop the Clio in for one (as much as I do bloody love them). Your plans sound very good, the shifter is on my list, as is the ARB. Should be a very sweet setup.

SidewaysSi said:
Sod the Clio. Tell us about the Lotus.
That's one thing I plan to do very soon...

BaronVonVaderham

2,317 posts

147 months

Thursday 2nd August 2018
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Fantastic car and one of the best colours for it.

Much prefer the original Renaultsport badge on the rear, don’t understand why anyone would rebadge it with the rubbish looking r.s new one.

I have had a mk3 200 since new in 2009 and also will never sell it, they’re just so much fun!

JMF894

5,489 posts

155 months

Thursday 2nd August 2018
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An exhaust, a remap and an induction kit for 7bhp? How much did that lot cost? I know N/A engines don't give much with remaps but couldn't that cost have gone towards something that would have improved the car in other areas?

Robert-lhcbq

58 posts

88 months

Thursday 2nd August 2018
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JMF894 said:
An exhaust, a remap and an induction kit for 7bhp? How much did that lot cost? I know N/A engines don't give much with remaps but couldn't that cost have gone towards something that would have improved the car in other areas?
Ktech have a generous rolling road. You'd at the very least need polished and ported inlets to see that much.

What spring rates did you go for on the coilovers?

l354uge

2,893 posts

121 months

Thursday 2nd August 2018
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JMF894 said:
An exhaust, a remap and an induction kit for 7bhp? How much did that lot cost? I know N/A engines don't give much with remaps but couldn't that cost have gone towards something that would have improved the car in other areas?
Giving one figure for the improvements given is pretty pointless, we don't know where this new peak is made, how the torque curve now looks etc. the real improvements will be in throttle response, driveability and (most importantly to me) noise!


Maldini35

2,913 posts

188 months

Friday 3rd August 2018
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Lovely little cars these.
Such good value too.
I currently have 2: one boggo for the road and one fully race prepped.
Can’t think of anything under £2k I’d prefer.

PorkRind

3,053 posts

205 months

Friday 3rd August 2018
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Oh how I miss my 172.

frayz

2,629 posts

159 months

Friday 3rd August 2018
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Owned my cup packed inferno 182 for 4.5 years. 84k miles i put on that car from various trackdays, ring trips and the daily commute and i swear against all odds it never once let me down. All i did was service it and change the oil every 6k. If i could walk into a dealership and buy another one brand new right now, i would.

It knocked spots off the Mini GP1 that i stupidly replaced it with at the time. frown

To this day its still the best £ for £ car ive ever owned.


BPD1

6 posts

131 months

Friday 3rd August 2018
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I always said I'd never sell mine but I did and you will too.

greenarrow

3,577 posts

117 months

Friday 3rd August 2018
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JMF894 said:
An exhaust, a remap and an induction kit for 7bhp? How much did that lot cost? I know N/A engines don't give much with remaps but couldn't that cost have gone towards something that would have improved the car in other areas?
Except that these Clios didn't generally make book BHP as standard (wasn''t around 170 the norm?) so its probably quite a bit more than 7BHP extra on a n/a engine with 120,000 on the clock.

Lovely car btw. I keep thinking I need to dip my toe in the water and buy a Renaultsport Clio. I'm torn between one and a MK7 Celica VVTLI 190, which are an even bigger bargain at the moment and likely to need less fettling (I'm not handy with a spanner!) .




Edited by greenarrow on Friday 3rd August 10:02

Dale487

1,334 posts

123 months

Friday 3rd August 2018
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Did you ever get to the bottom of the miss fire problem?

My Peugeot 106 had one from time to time which seemed to a have a weather cause, I only found out after selling it that the problem was cracked HT leads - moisture gets in the cracks and affects their performance.

MiseryStreak

2,929 posts

207 months

Friday 3rd August 2018
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I had that K-Tec remap done to my Trophy back in 2006, it was brand new at the time and they accidentally wiped the ECU and couldn't reflash it. I had to drive back to Brighton in their 1.2 Clio courtesy car and use that to go to a friend's wedding the next day. I wasn't best pleased. They did the remap for free and delivered it to my work also replacing a kerbed alloy so more than made up for it. It was fantastic, I didn't have the car dyno'd before the remap but at a Rolling Road day with a load of other F4R Clios, mine made 189bhp, when quite a few others struggled to make more than 175bhp. The throttle response was the best bit, it just felt much more alive.

I have a 172 Cup now and I'm never going to sell it. It's so simple and cheap to run and practical there's just no point getting rid of it.

frayz

2,629 posts

159 months

Friday 3rd August 2018
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Has there been a more involving a pure FWD hot hatch since the 182? I honestly think there hasnt.
Small, light, super chuckable and well driven will hassle almost anything on a B road.

I drive a Cayman R these days and i still wouldnt pick a fight with a well driven 182 on the road.biggrin

SF89

5 posts

69 months

Friday 3rd August 2018
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Here's my RB182 that I picked up in February for £700, currently sat in the garage waiting for me to pull my finger out.

R8Steve

4,150 posts

175 months

Friday 3rd August 2018
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Love these cars! I’m on my 8th one now!

Here’s my current one.

treeroy

564 posts

85 months

Friday 3rd August 2018
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I just googled clio 182 and found the exact same article by the same person on Autocar, what's up with that? Is pistonheads and autocar the same company?

Sam Sheehan

71 posts

137 months

Friday 3rd August 2018
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l354uge said:
JMF894 said:
An exhaust, a remap and an induction kit for 7bhp? How much did that lot cost? I know N/A engines don't give much with remaps but couldn't that cost have gone towards something that would have improved the car in other areas?
Giving one figure for the improvements given is pretty pointless, we don't know where this new peak is made, how the torque curve now looks etc. the real improvements will be in throttle response, driveability and (most importantly to me) noise!
This! It's a driveability thing. Much stronger mid-range torque is the biggest bonus. Not night and day, but it really does improve responsiveness.