RE: Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS: Spotted

RE: Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS: Spotted

Sunday 12th August 2018

Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS: Spotted

Like it or loathe it, this painstakingly restored - and neatly modified - modern classic is like nothing else in the classifieds



Just how much performance can you really glean from a 1980s American performance car? Indeed, is it even worthy of being described as such? Two questions that will almost certainly come to mind the moment you click on the ad for this Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS.

Actually, that's a load of rubbish. What will come to mind first of all is probably the word "blimey", or some variant thereof, because frankly, you've probably never seen an '85 Monte Carlo SS quite like this. In fact, we'd forgive you if you'd never seen an '85 Monte Carlo SS before at all. Over in the USA, the Monte Carlo SS is something of a cult hero, conceived in the late 1960s with the idea of blending muscle car tropes - like a vast engine, lurid colours and thumping power - with the luxury and... ahem... class you'd expect from a personal luxury coupe.


It fared poorly in the face of rising oil prices and swiftly disappeared, but in 1983 it re-emerged as a version of the fourth-generation car, less elegant, but more imposing, with a formal roofline, a shovel nose and haunches you could land a light aircraft on. And despite the fact that the power figure was down to just 182hp - a far cry from the 366hp of the original - the Monte Carlo SS was welcomed back with open arms, seen as the rebirth of the muscle car for a modern era.

Yes, that power figure is disappointing, not least when you consider it comes from a 5.0-litre V8. But don't skip to the 'Reply' button to post something about how crap this Monte is just yet. Mainly because it isn't as wheezy and strangled as you think. The advert details plenty about the restoration, but there's not much in there about engine modifications. However, what it does say is that the smog equipment has been removed. And, tantalisingly, it mentions almost in passing that it has Edelbrock carbs and heads. If it's accurate, that should be more than enough to lend this Monte Carlo some serious go.


Hopefully, then, there's enough there to back up the looks. Have you ever seen a road-legal American car from the 1980s look more purposeful or more menacing? The advert details an extensive restoration to both the body and the interior, the latter almost entirely renewed and finished in dark grey crushed velour, and the former coated in slick solid grey paint and capped off with a mean set of American Racing wheels and white-letter tyres. The suspension, too, has been given a hefty going-over with all new and uprated parts to make it less of a boat.

So, should you buy it? Well, yes, almost certainly. I mean, £16,995 doesn't seem at all bad for a car this individual, that's had this much money spent. True, you could probably buy and import a mint Monte Carlo SS from the States for that sort of money or less - but this one's here, now, and it looks like this. And when you consider it's a 1980s performance icon - yes, we've decided you can call it that - and remember just how tremendous this thing looks, it doesn't sound unreasonable to us at all.


SPECIFICATION - CHEVROLET MONTE CARLO SS

Engine: 5.0-litre V8, naturally aspirated
Transmission: Four-speed automatic
Power (hp): 182 (standard)
Torque (lb ft): 235 (standard)
MPG: 22.7
CO2: N/A
First registered: 1985
Recorded mileage: N/A
Price new: £11,140 ($11,840 in 1985)
Yours for: £16,995

See the full ad here.

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Nimerino

Original Poster:

295 posts

113 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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Yes, the Buick GNX looks more menacing and is significantly faster. Sure, it’s a bit of a cliché, but I’d have one over this abomination any day.

Cambs_Stuart

2,855 posts

84 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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Fantastic. That would definitely stand out in the school run and in my work car park. Definitely worth the money. It's be interesting to see what the engine tuning options would be...

Camelot1971

2,698 posts

166 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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Bloody marvelous!

JMF894

5,494 posts

155 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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Like it cos it's different but I would want to have at least an idea of what it was kicking out.

p4cks

6,906 posts

199 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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I used to live in America and a neighbour had one of these tucked away in his garage. He used to take it out on a Sunday and it sounded bloody amazing.


Krikkit

26,514 posts

181 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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JMF894 said:
Like it cos it's different but I would want to have at least an idea of what it was kicking out.
In sure the bum dunno would give you a ballpark. I bet it's about 300.

irocfan

40,387 posts

190 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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I like it - but like someone above the GN is more desirable (one because it's bloody quick), that said a nice small-block is hard to ignore aurally

unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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Krikkit said:
JMF894 said:
Like it cos it's different but I would want to have at least an idea of what it was kicking out.
In sure the bum dunno would give you a ballpark. I bet it's about 300.
this small-block Chevy is capable of 300hp along with something resembling daily driver manners

the advert says, "Edelbrock carb setup and head etc"; it would be nice to know the flow / specs on the carb and heads

to achieve big power, we'll need an aftermarket performance camshaft (there's only one camshaft, remember), a performance intake manifold, and long-tube headers (all easily sourced, even from the UK, and at reasonable cost)

there's a lot of art in this build

the list of improvements is astonishing and a tribute to the craftsmanship of the UK builder: extensive and unique upgrades to body, suspension, dashboard, interior and exterior -- this car is better sorted than when new

although it's priced a bit sharpish for the US market (but certainly not at the top), this car is incredible value for money; I could see somebody in the southeast US wanting to import it!

for me, it's one of those things where I think, "Not for me per se, but I'm glad it exists"


cib24

1,117 posts

153 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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GIve me a Buick Grand National any day. Same platform but the Buick had a 3.8 V6 turbo outputting 240 h.p. and 360 lb. ft. In stock form with street tires you could cut a 13.8-14.0 second 1/4 mile. Increase the boost pressure, put a downpipe on the car and drag radials and you could run mid 12's all day long. Add some more fuel, a full exhaust, a larger turbo, some water injection and/or a bigger intercooler and you could run mid 11's all day.

I had one. They have so much presence. They drive like st outside of a straight line and the interior is absolutely terrible but they are so cool.


Wolvesboy

597 posts

141 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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I used to drool from afar whenever I spotted one of these whilst working in the USA as a 21 year old. In the flesh they are pretty purposeful and look mean, especially in black or red. My Lumina "Sport" was cool but never as cool as one of these!

Coatesy351

861 posts

132 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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Buy it and Do it for Dale.

petop

2,137 posts

166 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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Wasnt this the same car that Denzel Washington drove in Training Day?
If so all day long would i have this!

RWDan

42 posts

115 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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The daft petrol head inside me is saying sell up my e90 m3 and buy it jester
My sensible head is saying stick with the e90 as I could sell it and clear the loan comparatively easily should I ever need or want to.

RemyMartin81D

6,759 posts

205 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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cib24 said:
GIve me a Buick Grand National any day. Same platform but the Buick had a 3.8 V6 turbo outputting 240 h.p. and 360 lb. ft. In stock form with street tires you could cut a 13.8-14.0 second 1/4 mile. Increase the boost pressure, put a downpipe on the car and drag radials and you could run mid 12's all day long. Add some more fuel, a full exhaust, a larger turbo, some water injection and/or a bigger intercooler and you could run mid 11's all day.

I had one. They have so much presence. They drive like st outside of a straight line and the interior is absolutely terrible but they are so cool.

I still watch the Video of Chris Chows on the Dyno, to this day.

https://youtu.be/hsjx0LgtoDA

dancavgsi

23 posts

195 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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Hmmm this looks very familiar wink currently sat in the unit at work.

Being surrounded by some fancy cars this sort of thing makes me take notice as it's different.

It's had quite a lot of money and time spent on it for sure, few bits of paint could be better but for what it is you can't complain too much.

We have had a few American cars in lately, a corvette has just come in just looks a little boring compared to this.



wst

3,494 posts

161 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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Looks like it'd be at home in a pack of 20 others hustling around the M25 (anti-clockwise ofc) with <6 inches between them. Aside from the auto box I love this. If there was a way to get it properly ground-hugging without any risk from sleeping policemen it'd be a great motorway stormer... (or autobahn one I guess...)

Mr Tidy

22,259 posts

127 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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I love the idea of an American V8, but a Monte Carlo really isn't a looker IMHO!

I'd much rather have a 60s/early 70s Camaro, 70s Trans Am, or even a 60s Cougar XR7.

But it's great that cars like this are around!



unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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Mr Tidy said:
I love the idea of an American V8, but a Monte Carlo really isn't a looker IMHO!

I'd much rather have a 60s/early 70s Camaro, 70s Trans Am, or even a 60s Cougar XR7.

But it's great that cars like this are around!
it has a sort of Baroque aesthetic, doesn't it; like the suggestion of an overtly formal piece of furniture; formidable overhangs as well

such were the G body cars from GM

but hey... a 5.0-litre carbureted V8 that can be transformed at low cost into a bit of a powerhouse (as well as an aural delight)



DBRacingGod

609 posts

192 months

Monday 13th August 2018
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Page 1 and no-one has yet mentioned how a modern diesel estate would be faster? PistonHeads - you’ve changed.

DBRacingGod

609 posts

192 months

Monday 13th August 2018
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DBRacingGod said:
Page 1 and no-one has yet mentioned how a modern diesel estate would be faster? PistonHeads - you’ve changed.
Thank Christ.