RE: Honda Civic Type R (EP3): Spotted

RE: Honda Civic Type R (EP3): Spotted

Wednesday 22nd August 2018

Honda Civic Type R (EP3): Spotted

We say konnichiwa to a low mileage EP3 Civic Type R in 215hp JDM-spec...



The first Civic Type R to be officially sanctioned for Britain was also the first to be built at Honda’s UK manufacturing plant in Swindon. Every single example of the EP3-generation hot hatch was produced there, even those exported back to Japan’s domestic market - despite those cars being finished to a higher specification that made them even faster than the European models.

What you don’t know can’t hurt you though, so British buyers expressed no frustration at the less potent example they were offered, revelling in the car’s lust for revs and its stratospheric 8,250rpm limiter. Little did the (vast majority) know that buyers in Japan were sent a car powered by an atmospheric 2.0-litre delivering even more revvy lunacy to the front axle via an even shorter ratio gearbox and factory-fit limited slip differential. Really, it was a very different car.

Honda Civic Type R (EP3): PH Heroes


Don’t just take our word for it, look at the stats. JDM cars used Japan-built K20A four-cylinders (rather than UK made ones) that produced 215hp at 8000rpm, which was 15hp more and 600rpm later than the EDM (nothing to do with David Guetta, we’re talking European Domestic Market) models. They also spun all the way to 8,600rpm, meaning cars sold in Britain were denied 350 glorious revs above the VTEC barrier. On road performance was therefore quicker, with the 0-62mph sprint taking 6.4sec, two tenths quicker than European cars. This added potency wasn’t from a simple ECU map either, because JDM cars provided their extra ferocity thanks to upgraded engine components including higher specification cams, a unique inlet manifold and different headers, as well as a heightened compression ratio.

The chassis was different too. Ok, so the body in white was identical and was assembled down the same line as the EDM cars, but Japanese models used a slightly firmer spring rate and tauter damping to enhance overall responsiveness. And let us not forget the more forgiving Europe-spec setup wasn’t exactly lacking in driver-appeal, so this Japanese version was hailed as one very serious proposition in factory trim.

Not many cars stayed that way, of course, as is tradition in the Land of the Rising Sun, with buyers provided with an aftermarket parts list taller than Mount Fuji almost as soon as the EP3 landed on Japanese shores. That’s what makes the unmolested 5000-mile-old JDM import listed on the classifieds such a rare find. Not only does it come in Japan-only Championship White (not offered in Europe until the following FN2-gen model), it gets standard-fit JDM paraphernalia including red Recaro seats, a leather-wrapped gear knob and HID headlights (not included on EDM cars until the facelift).

Civic Type R facelift spied with more options


Interestingly, this one-owner car was imported back to Britain in 2015 but is yet to receive a UK custodian, which leaves some questions as to what it’s been up to these past three years. We’d like to think its Japanese owner relocated here and brought their pride and joy with them; the recently replaced brake pads, oil service and new tyres certainly suggest it’s continued to receive no-expenses spared maintenance.

Either way, there are few better ways to experience a breed of hot Civic that has long since passed, where revving the nuts off its engine was a requirement rather than an option, where the gear lever was located within a palm’s reach and at elbow height, and where exterior design was still fairly restrained. If only we had a spare £14k...


SPECIFICATION - HONDA CIVIC TYPE R (EP3)
Engine:
 1,998cc, four-cylinder
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 215@8,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 152@7,000rpm
0-62mph: 6.4secs
Top speed: 146mph
Weight: 1,204kg
MPG: 31.7 (NEDC combined)
CO2: 212g/km
First registered: 2002
Price new: £15,995
Price now: £13,995

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sidesauce

Original Poster:

2,475 posts

218 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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These type of cars have never been my thing but good Lord, that car is pristine. 5k miles? Wow.

I can't imagine that staying on the market for very long!

Butter Face

30,296 posts

160 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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It’s a lovely car. Not one that you can ever drive tbh.

You can buy one for 8k that you could actually use.

If I had the money and space to keep it tucked away I would though.

rossub

4,442 posts

190 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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That one has been passed around a few dealers since it came here. None of whom have been able to shift it at the price.

There’s not really much of a market for having these as garage queen 1k miles a year cars, which may be why it’s struggling to sell.

The JDM cars didn’t just come in white though - I’ve seen black ones at the Japanese auctions.

howardhughes

1,004 posts

204 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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Love the looks, and appreciate a superb engine, but that gear lever is enough for me to walk away - sorry.

bozzy.

780 posts

78 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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howardhughes said:
Love the looks, and appreciate a superb engine, but that gear lever is enough for me to walk away - sorry.
It’s one of the cars best features you mad man :-)

Butter Face

30,296 posts

160 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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howardhughes said:
Love the looks, and appreciate a superb engine, but that gear lever is enough for me to walk away - sorry.
Have you driven one? It’s possibly one of the best located gearsticks ever.

bozzy.

780 posts

78 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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Also...leather covered gear knob?? Say what!?!?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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I'd swap out for the normal aluminium gear lever. Otherwise great machine. Would probably turn yellow if you used it for a couple or three years, though (assuming Championship White).

luckystrike

536 posts

181 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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Another vote for superb gearstick location and fantastic shift action here. It’s one of the standout features on an all-round ace car.

krismccloy

256 posts

149 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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Crashed my 2006 Premier edition and replaced it with a 2002, 70k mile JDM model which is my only car for the road and I adore it. The JDM model is also equipped with a 22mm rear ARB vs. UKDM 19mm rear to add to chassis differences in article.

The general consensus is that even higher mileage import models are over priced, But after modifying my UK car I am not convinced, Fair bit faster, LSD, Better gearing, less rust etc... LSD is a must have in these cars in my opinion, Really livens up the steering and feedback. I had put a Wavetrac diff in my UKDM car.

And regarding the gearstick, I was on the fence about the position of it at first, but using it had me sold. Also, stock driving position is far too high for me being 6ft 1ish so I stuck in my pole position and it feels great. These cars have their flaws, But I think they're a lot of fun as a package and geometry adjustments make a world of difference.

Making use of mine:

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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I had a CTR years ago. I remember buying a whole interior, inlet manifold and headlights from a JDM one from the guys at Synchro Motorsport at the Swindon factory. They had pallets of the things as I think they used the JDM cars as shells for the BTCC cars of the time.

PixelpeepS3

8,600 posts

142 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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nothing can seem to touch the early fast fords for being overpriced but as previously mentioned i would rather spend £3-5k on a standard UK (04+) and enjoy driving it the only way you can get the most out of it... up in the dizzy rev heights of 'v-tech yooo' smile

Black S2K

1,471 posts

249 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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krismccloy said:
Crashed my 2006 Premier edition and replaced it with a 2002, 70k mile JDM model which is my only car for the road and I adore it. The JDM model is also equipped with a 22mm rear ARB vs. UKDM 19mm rear to add to chassis differences in article.

The general consensus is that even higher mileage import models are over priced, But after modifying my UK car I am not convinced, Fair bit faster, LSD, Better gearing, less rust etc... LSD is a must have in these cars in my opinion, Really livens up the steering and feedback. I had put a Wavetrac diff in my UKDM car.

And regarding the gearstick, I was on the fence about the position of it at first, but using it had me sold. Also, stock driving position is far too high for me being 6ft 1ish so I stuck in my pole position and it feels great. These cars have their flaws, But I think they're a lot of fun as a package and geometry adjustments make a world of difference.

Making use of mine:
Interesting about the LSD and geometry making a 'world of difference'.

I drove a UKDM on a greasy road and couldn't get the hang of it, as I could with an EK9.

Perhaps I've been selling the EP3 short...

u04pww2

72 posts

97 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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Black S2K said:
krismccloy said:
Crashed my 2006 Premier edition and replaced it with a 2002, 70k mile JDM model which is my only car for the road and I adore it. The JDM model is also equipped with a 22mm rear ARB vs. UKDM 19mm rear to add to chassis differences in article.

The general consensus is that even higher mileage import models are over priced, But after modifying my UK car I am not convinced, Fair bit faster, LSD, Better gearing, less rust etc... LSD is a must have in these cars in my opinion, Really livens up the steering and feedback. I had put a Wavetrac diff in my UKDM car.

And regarding the gearstick, I was on the fence about the position of it at first, but using it had me sold. Also, stock driving position is far too high for me being 6ft 1ish so I stuck in my pole position and it feels great. These cars have their flaws, But I think they're a lot of fun as a package and geometry adjustments make a world of difference.

Making use of mine:
Interesting about the LSD and geometry making a 'world of difference'.

I drove a UKDM on a greasy road and couldn't get the hang of it, as I could with an EK9.

Perhaps I've been selling the EP3 short...
Had my Fast Road Setup done last year but i wish i had done it sooner as it makes such a difference, it just eats corners up so easily now.

Jonny_gti

289 posts

80 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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Had a ukdm ep3 and didn't like the way it handled at all but I was coming from a jdm dc2. I really like the jdm ep3, think it would be a lot better than the uk models. Best motoring proved it was slightly faster than a dc5 also.

krismccloy

256 posts

149 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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Black S2K said:
Interesting about the LSD and geometry making a 'world of difference'.

I drove a UKDM on a greasy road and couldn't get the hang of it, as I could with an EK9.

Perhaps I've been selling the EP3 short...
I've owned an EK4 SiR, JDM DC2, FN2 too... You certainly can't beat the 90's chassis for handling (I'm building a B18C EG for racing now), But as a single daily car, as a package an EP3 suits me better. More guilt free fun in all weathers with rust not being such an issue with them, and the 6spd & K20 is a nice package.

Yeh I bought both cars stock, and -2 degrees camber up front certainly helps and the diff allows you give it a mash of the throttle in 2nd mid corner like the old R's did, whilst pulling you in.

adam.

407 posts

211 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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Jonny_gti said:
Had a ukdm ep3 and didn't like the way it handled at all but I was coming from a jdm dc2. I really like the jdm ep3, think it would be a lot better than the uk models. Best motoring proved it was slightly faster than a dc5 also.
The DC5 is a far better car to be in though, for one reason: the driving position. It is night and day different to the EP3, and one of the best 'standard' positions that I've ever experienced in a road car.

SaggyOstrich

392 posts

75 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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u04pww2 said:
Had my Fast Road Setup done last year but i wish i had done it sooner as it makes such a difference, it just eats corners up so easily now.
Mine also has the fast road setup and I didn't think it would make as much difference as it does, superb!

smaybury

87 posts

149 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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rossub said:
The JDM cars didn’t just come in white though - I’ve seen black ones at the Japanese auctions.
It meant that Championship White was only available on JDM cars.

finnersj

3 posts

82 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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May look odd but the gear change and position is superb on these cars.