RE: Toyota Yaris GR Sport

RE: Toyota Yaris GR Sport

Friday 14th September 2018

Toyota Yaris GR Sport

Missed the GRMN? Try the Yaris GR Sport, with the same tyres, wheels, dampers and... a hybrid powertrain?



While cars like the Yaris GRMN, new Supra and GR Super Sport concept are stealing the headlines, perhaps the more exciting news from Toyota's performance renaissance is the pyramid of GR (Gazoo Racing) hierarchy. Because below GRMN will sit three additional tiers: GR, GR Sport and GR Parts, the idea that you can get a hint of the flagship car model in your regular car. If you're one of those hoping for tasty aftermarket bits for a GT86 (with a warranty) under GR Parts, then you certainly aren't alone...

Anyway, here is the UK's first GR Sport model, the Yaris. Toyota says it delivers "genuine fun-to-drive performance and sports styling", with a range of modifications including Sachs Performance dampers "similar" to those in the GRMN, a solid rather than hollow anti-roll bar for rigidity and lower ride height. The 17-inch wheels use the same Bridgestone Potenza RE050 tyres as the supercharged car.

Aesthetically, the GR Sport will be distinguished by a rear spoiler, black details, unique headlights and optional red decals. It also gets GR-branded front seats, the same steering wheel as a GRMN (and therefore the GT86, too) and contrast stitching throughout.


A modest sporting overhaul then, and one that will only be offered as a hybrid as well. Shame. And we're not being dismissive of hybrid tech here - goodness knows that's more than proved its place now - but because in the Yaris that means just 99hp. So instead of something to go up against cars like the Corsa GSI, Swift Sport and Fiesta Zetec S, the Yaris is a small Japanese performance car that can only just crack 12 seconds to 60 and crawl across 100mph. Boo.

That said, GR Sport sits below both GR and GRMN in the new Toyota performance pyramid, so perhaps it was unreasonable to expect too much. It just seems something of a missed opportunity not to capitalise on the GRMN's favourable reception with a more widely available and similarly focused follow up. As it is it looks like GR Sport will be a trim level similar to VW's R Line and Peugeot's GT Line. The Yaris GR Sport will be shown at the Paris show, with sales due to commence before the year is out. As for a price, expect something in the £20k region that the current Yaris Hybrid range toppers reside in.

[Source: Jalopnik]



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rare6499

Original Poster:

656 posts

139 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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20 grand? 12 seconds to 60?

Come again?

BricktopST205

900 posts

134 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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Surely there is some mistake only 99 HP with 1.5l 4 cylinder with a hybrid power train!

Sam993

1,302 posts

72 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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"Missed the GRMN?"

I'm sure you can still get them. I know of one dealer that has one for sale in their showroom and they even have a promo offer on it.

AshD

218 posts

249 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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RR,

I’ve got an Up Gti (gloating)

Agreed, no chance against it, or the new Swift Sport either.

Vocht

1,631 posts

164 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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They need to release a few more hot GRMN products first before they start milking the 'GR Line' branding! Too soon Toyota!

Frimley111R

15,657 posts

234 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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You've got wonder who, at Toyota, thought a sporting hatch with a 0-60 of 12 seconds and a hybrid engine was good idea! It reminds me of Honda's disastrous recent CRX revival, a small couple with a low power and average handling...

Unless they are targeting new drivers who want something sporty looking but low insurance.....

MannyLanny

5 posts

67 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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They are rather aimed at getting money for a quality model interested for many people.

bozzy.

780 posts

78 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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I'm not sure I understand the logic of this, and I work as one of the sales execs at a Toyota dealership!

I'm wondering if there's been something lost in translation, and that actually the engine they are fitting is the 2NR-FKE 1.5 petrol. It's rated at 111 DIN hp, so not much better, but would at least be available in a manual. Also, hybrid Toyota's usually have a blue Toyota badge and the car in the pictures doesn't appear to follow suit if it really is a hybrid!

edit to add: I've since looked again the car is badged as Hybrid and the auto box is visible in the interior shot, so it certainly looks like it's a hybrid. Hopefully it's not the sole engine and will also be available in the 1.5 Manual.

Edited by bozzy. on Friday 14th September 13:44

TommoAE86

2,667 posts

127 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Maybe they will give us the full GR sports range eventually so you can even give the GR treatment to a Prius Alpha! biglaugh


I know it's impossible due to the market here but I'd really like a better range of cars to be offered by more manufacturers, nothing at all is interesting enough for me to PCP/Rent/Buy especially with the dead large petrol engine market from Europe.

I'd be straight down to the dealership for a Toyota Mark X which is a 3 series sized car, comes with a 2.5 or 3.5 petrol engine for between £25-£35k



mrbarnett

1,091 posts

93 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Can we not at least get excited about the fact that Toyota are fitting quality, branded suspension parts before upping the power? Is that not the right way to do things?

That said, the fact this is 2.5 seconds slower to 60 than my equally powerful Panda 100hp shows just how much heavier cars have become in the past decade, and that's going to impact on driving pleasure.

VeeFource

1,076 posts

177 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Sachs dampers & 99bhp?? What is the point, unless perhaps you've always had a craving to own a GRMN stuck in limp mode?

Screechmr2

282 posts

104 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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'Sport' rofl

Someone at Toyota clearly has a sense of humour

Although snail racing is also a sport

BugLebowski

1,033 posts

116 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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What marketing team came up with 'GRMN?' Is it spelt out or is it pronounced like you're talking about the sat-nav maker with a mouthful of cheese? confused

DanGPR

988 posts

171 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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mrbarnett said:
Can we not at least get excited about the fact that Toyota are fitting quality, branded suspension parts before upping the power? Is that not the right way to do things?

That said, the fact this is 2.5 seconds slower to 60 than my equally powerful Panda 100hp shows just how much heavier cars have become in the past decade, and that's going to impact on driving pleasure.
To a certain extent , yes.

But it's cheaper to fit aftermarket suspension at <£1000 for something fairly decent, than spending £4/5k on forced induction for a fun amount of power.

TonyRPH

12,971 posts

168 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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The back end looks sad probably because the front end is so ugly.

RumbleOfThunder

3,554 posts

203 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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mrbarnett said:
Can we not at least get excited about the fact that Toyota are fitting quality, branded suspension parts before upping the power? Is that not the right way to do things?

That said, the fact this is 2.5 seconds slower to 60 than my equally powerful Panda 100hp shows just how much heavier cars have become in the past decade, and that's going to impact on driving pleasure.
Quality suspension components because of the otherworldly "Sachs dampers". Sachs makes dampers for all types of cars of varying prices and quality. Sick of OEM's and journo's instantly assuming they're something special.

RSTurboPaul

10,366 posts

258 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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BugLebowski said:
What marketing team came up with 'GRMN?' Is it spelt out or is it pronounced like you're talking about the sat-nav maker with a mouthful of cheese? confused
Gazoo Racing, Meisters of the Nurburgring (IIRC...)

RSTurboPaul

10,366 posts

258 months

Sunday 16th September 2018
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mrbarnett said:
Can we not at least get excited about the fact that Toyota are fitting quality, branded suspension parts before upping the power? Is that not the right way to do things?

That said, the fact this is 2.5 seconds slower to 60 than my equally powerful Panda 100hp shows just how much heavier cars have become in the past decade, and that's going to impact on driving pleasure.
Perhaps they're going down the Peugeot 106 Rallye route - good suspension but low power, so it's all about the momentum?

Of course, the 106s weighed about as much as a crisp packet, whereas new cars, er, don't...

Smurf1001

5 posts

110 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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I keep reading this 99bhp 12sec, 0-60 second rubbish! I have owned a Yaris Hybrid Sport for 3 years now. These are facts :- It will out perform any 1.4 NA car. The off line performance 0-40 -50 mph is astounding I have left a Nissan skyline on the A322! I can understand why Toyota don't tell people because it's just not PC it's not designed to be a performance car!! If the GR goes like my other Yaris I'll be even more pleased. It was a bit sloppy into fast corners yes. The thing is from zero it has yes 99bhp plus 45 bhp extra electric boost massive torque and in race mode sorry out of 'ECO' it flys off the line! I guess I'm probably the only person to ever push a Yaris Hybrid past 70! I bet the guys at GR know the true figures but are never going to tell! I think is one of the best kept secrets known!

Hopefully mine wll be delivered in the next few weeks, I need to run it in first but will let all you non believers find out what it's really like.

Oh I did I mention the mpg.... smile

aka_kerrly

12,418 posts

210 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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Smurf1001 said:
It will out perform any 1.4 NA car. The off line performance 0-40 -50 mph is astounding I have left a Nissan skyline on the A322! I can understand why Toyota don't tell people because it's just not PC it's not designed to be a performance car!! smile
Hilarious, was it a 2.0 NA auto Skyline or sinply the driver not giving a monkeys when someone in a hybrid yaris thinks they are racing.