RE: Jaguar claims Project 8 lap record at Laguna Seca

RE: Jaguar claims Project 8 lap record at Laguna Seca

Friday 14th September

Jaguar claims Project 8 lap record at Laguna Seca

No other four-door car has been around the Californian circuit faster, says Jag - watch the vid here



Well, now we look a bit silly. That's because, in the space of a few days, there are two Jaguars on the PH homepage claiming lap records at Laguna Seca. With the same driver. D'oh.

Of course with knowledge that the XE SV Project 8 was going to lap the WeatherTech Raceway in 1:37.54, the I-Pace lap probably wouldn't have made the newsfeed. It's worthy, sure, and it's kinda interesting, but a 600hp V8 saloon still sits more comfortably with us than an EV crossover.


There's some noise, for a start; the supercharger shriek defining the saloon's journey around the 2.2 mile circuit as much as the V8 rumble. With both superchargers and V8s seemingly on their way out, to hear them in unison is a pleasure that's becoming more enjoyable the more seldom it's heard. Even if the noise is interspersed with some slightly sluggish downshifts...

The pace here is undeniable; as seen in the Nurburgring lap and reported in the P8 first drive, it's the composure carried by the car in high-speed corners and over imperfections that's arguably most impressive. See as well the braking into turn 2, the XE planted and assured as its carbon ceramics haul it down from beyond 130mph to just 40.

So yes, bravo Jag, this is one impressive Laguna Seca lap. Wonder how it will cope with some UK tracks and some UK weather? Hopefully one to discover soon. Finally, a quick point about the car the Project 8 surpassed to the four-door lap record, the Cadillac CTS-V. Sure, it's more powerful, but the big Caddy is three years old now, is much less track focused and will be heavier - to be just a second off the XE is damn impressive. We did say it was good!

 

 

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sh33n

Original Poster:

143 posts

120 months

Friday 14th September
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Surely the most pointless lap record yet? Perhaps suitable for a car which is also pointless.

DanielSan

13,337 posts

100 months

Friday 14th September
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I like the car but this is on par with Honda aiming track records for the new Type R over summer, it’s not a competition or an achievement when no one else is trying.

unsprung

2,395 posts

57 months

Friday 14th September
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lovely sound on this car

an impressive all-round performance, not least given the nearly 1750 kg

just for fun, there's some interesting bits online about the driver, Randy Pobst:

"Randy is a vegetarian, healthy food nut, and a motorcycle enthusiast with a sizable collection, with many vintage Japanese and cafe racer-style bikes."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Pobst


Frimley111R

8,959 posts

167 months

Friday 14th September
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Watch from 2.40 mins...

MannyLanny

5 posts

Friday 14th September
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He is certainly good, but I think in this race for speed they lose their individuality.
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daveco

3,544 posts

140 months

Friday 14th September
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unsprung said:
lovely sound on this car

an impressive all-round performance, not least given the nearly 1750 kg

just for fun, there's some interesting bits online about the driver, Randy Pobst:

"Randy is a vegetarian, healthy food nut, and a motorcycle enthusiast with a sizable collection, with many vintage Japanese and cafe racer-style bikes."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Pobst
Why does it weigh so much??

Randy Pobst was great on Motor Trend, back when Motor Trend was not behind a paywall and placed that gobsh*te Johnny Lieberman in charge of most of reviews.

unsprung

2,395 posts

57 months

Friday 14th September
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daveco said:
Why does it weigh so much??
because it's based on an actual road-going car and has not been stripped / carbon-ed within an inch of its life


donteatpeople

446 posts

207 months

Friday 14th September
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sh33n said:
Surely the most pointless lap record yet? Perhaps suitable for a car which is also pointless.
A car is only pointless if nobody wants it. They sold every one of these cars so it's very clearly not pointless.

Fetchez la vache

5,071 posts

147 months

Friday 14th September
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Just watched this vid then the iPace vid that I hadn't watched.

By golly having an engine sound makes a hell of a difference to the interest lol... Watching the iPace was dull as ditch water after that v8..

E65Ross

20,909 posts

145 months

Friday 14th September
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sh33n said:
......a car which is also pointless.
Anything more than a diesel VW Golf estate is pointless, I suppose?

borat52

96 posts

141 months

Friday 14th September
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Credit to Jaguar for being bold enough to do this, but it's a bit pants really. A Nissan GTR is 10 years older, quicker and half the price. Very similar weight and before we get into the argument of the GTR being a coupe, the one that went round the track had only 2 front seats.

As a saloon I'd take a quadrifoglio every day of the week.

borat52

96 posts

141 months

Friday 14th September
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borat52 said:
Credit to Jaguar for being bold enough to do this, but it's a bit pants really. A Nissan GTR is 10 years older, quicker and half the price. Very similar weight and before we get into the argument of the GTR being a coupe, the one that went round the track had only 2 front seats.

As a saloon I'd take a quadrifoglio every day of the week.
I take that back about the rear seats, from the video it does look like the one with rear seats instead of the roll cage.

Pericoloso

35,841 posts

96 months

Friday 14th September
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Laguna Seca best time.
Nurburgring best time.

What next ,Cadwell park ?

Mr.Lackson2

2 posts

Friday 14th September
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redface look's awesome. I love Jaguar

Maldini35

1,757 posts

121 months

Friday 14th September
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Cool car, great noise, looks really fun...but... if it’ll never be that quick in the grand scheme of things due to various limiting factors (like the production XE architecture it uses) then why bother chasing lap times?
Do you really want to define this car by a heavily caveated lap time?
I’d suggest this car was better defined by the experience and the sheer devil make care lunacy of the project.
Knowing that it is marginally quicker than a production Cadillac sort of spoils it for me.



quench

198 posts

79 months

Saturday 15th September
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sh33n said:
Surely the most pointless lap record yet? Perhaps suitable for a car which is also pointless.
Amen to that. Particularly misleading, also, because Jaguar have bet the farm on electrification and have reduced their gasoline engine range to basically a collection of pitiful, wheezy four bangers struggling to motivate overweight chassis. The lovely supercharged V8's and V6's have been shown the door. Yes, I'd like an XF or an XE with a V8, no I don't want one with a cage and a wing and a stupid price tag that I can't buy anyway because there are only 100 and they are all sold.

dazwalsh

3,840 posts

74 months

Saturday 15th September
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very cool, dont care how pointless it is im sold, reminds me of an aussie v8 supercar type of noise and would be awesome to play around a track all day in one of these.

Olivera

3,022 posts

172 months

Sunday 16th September
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borat52 said:
Credit to Jaguar for being bold enough to do this, but it's a bit pants really.
A bit pants? That's the view of PHers that haven't driven it and live in their mum's basement.

In the real world is racking up all the saloon car records and getting fabulous reviews by trusted journos (see autocar test vid from a couple of months ago).