RE: Ferrari Monza SP1 and SP2: Official!

RE: Ferrari Monza SP1 and SP2: Official!

Wednesday 19th September 2018

Ferrari Monza SP1 and SP2: Official!

New 820hp models mix traditional design with carbon fibre and the latest chassis technology



You know those voluptuous open-top V12 Ferraris that leaked onto the internet yesterday, the Monza SP1 and SP2? They've now been officially confirmed by Maranello along with confirmation that each produces 820hp at 8500rpm from an enhanced version of the scintillating twelve-cylinder used by the 812 Superfast. The one- and two-seat Ferraris are the most potent production road cars to wear a Prancing Horse on their noses - and by golly do we want one.

The 812 is super bloody fast, we know that, so imagine experiencing its outrageous pace with an extra 20hp, no windscreen and - if you're really keen - no passenger seat to lug around. The single-seat SP1 weighs 25kg less than the coupe, which is 1525kg dry, while the two-seat SP2 tips the scales at 1520kg, thanks to the addition of the second seat and rollover protection, hidden within a second buttress.


The Monzas are said to be inspired by Ferrari's vintage sports car racers, like the pretty 1948 16 MM and achingly gorgeous 750 Monza and 860 Monza from the 1950s. As such, their designs eschew the usual aggressive aero-pieces of modern performance cars for smoother forms and, well, they look bloody great, don't they? The bodywork itself is made from carbonfibre and much of the running gear beneath has been taken straight from the 812, so it's not all old school.

Performance remains, as you would expect, 812 rapid: 62mph comes in 2.9 seconds but more impressively, 124mph comes in 7.9 seconds (identical to the SF) despite the fact there's no windscreen to slice air particles away from your not particularly aerodynamic noggin. A helmet is a must, obviously.


Ferrari says that its aero boffins have borrowed virtual windscreen tech from their Formula 1 colleagues to help direct as much air flow around the passenger compartment as possible, but it's fair to assume there'd be some (a lot of) buffeting when you approach the Monza's 186mph 'plus' top speed. That velocity would be circuit only, of course, but you can also drive these Monzas on the road.

Price? Ferrari is keeping that to itself, although it has said that volume will account for well below 5% of Ferraris sales. They'll be shown at the Paris motor show next month.






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charliedb2

Original Poster:

74 posts

132 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Wibble

InductionRoar

2,014 posts

132 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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The wheels are too big. Other than that perfection.

Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Yeah wheels too large and the spokes too heavy looking, but the 2 seater looks fantastic.

Always been rather meh about all these Lambo and Ferrari even more exclusive special offers but at least it is not digging up past history and finding you can build some contiunation models as there was a fire and we found an old washer at the back of the factory that had a number on it, eh JLR and Aston.

It does not need a superfast engine in it though, owners will not be driving them fast i guess.

Finally I say bravo to these.

Edited by Gandahar on Wednesday 19th September 13:44

Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Also, do we know who designed these? Ferrari sponsor young talent to do outlandish designs over the years and we see the artist renderings and small models and they are really funky; it would be cool if one of those designs ended up as being produced.

The Hypno-Toad

12,277 posts

205 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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charliedb2 said:
Wibble
And indeed, bibble.

The black one is possibly one of the most beautiful things I have seen wearing wheels and this from someone who loathes most modern Ferraris. (Not that they will care because unless the numbers come in, Toad will be never placing a deposit any time soon.)


Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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PS Where is the halo to tie it in with the Ferrari F1 team? scratchchin

thegreenhell

15,281 posts

219 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Is this different to the story you ran on a very similar car yesterday?

SturdyHSV

10,094 posts

167 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Good to know Ferrari can still make a great looking car.

Here's hoping this sparks at least a bit of a move away from ridiculous track focused aero ste towards making really rather nice looking vehicles smile

Swalsey

53 posts

166 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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To me these are stunning and I'm sure will sound and drive amazing. I'd buy one if I could, but I'd be really interested to see where the mass is coming from to make up 1500kg dry with a carbon fibre body. There must good reasons they are >600kg heavier than a 3-11.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Gandahar said:
PS Where is the halo to tie it in with the Ferrari F1 team? scratchchin
They wouldn't be able to homologate one even if they wanted too.

Lord_Howit_Hertz

1,898 posts

217 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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thegreenhell said:
Is this different to the story you ran on a very similar car yesterday?
confused my thoughts exactly, surely that's the same story, twice within a short time frame?

munk

258 posts

199 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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I dislike Ferrari's as a rule. With the exception of the FF, they just don't do it for me. I can't give a good reason for that, just a gut thing but...



... that is absolutely beautiful.

JohnGoodridge

529 posts

195 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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A one make race series would be rather good.

In bumpy road mode only, so they roll like a 50's racer.


anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Swalsey said:
To me these are stunning and I'm sure will sound and drive amazing. I'd buy one if I could, but I'd be really interested to see where the mass is coming from to make up 1500kg dry with a carbon fibre body. There must good reasons they are >600kg heavier than a 3-11.
The weight is really disappointing, particularly after the big song and dance they made about the Millechili concept a few years back. If ever there was a project to launch a 1000kg car this surely was it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Wow. I've never lusted after Ferrari's (apart from the 288GTO and Testarossa) but these are gorgeous.

Valgar

850 posts

135 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Not a fan of modern supercars or hypercars, too much development by wind tunnel for my liking.

But fk me that black one is stunning

TwinExit

532 posts

92 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Doesn't matter how much they try to hark back to the golden era of the 60s-70s and make it 'exclusive' by non disclosure of the RRP, these cars will be snagged up by the likes of Jay Leno (who makes himself more wealthy by televising about a car he just brought effectively paying for it) and young 'princes' racing up and down Knightsbridge in 1st gear.

Even Glasgowdon Ramsay is a celeb Ferrarista.

That's all the heritage you have left Ferrari, until you start winning in top motorsport again.


morgs_

1,663 posts

187 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Rarely has the South Park meme been quite so appropriate sperm

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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TwinExit said:
Doesn't matter how much they try to hark back to the golden era of the 60s-70s and make it 'exclusive' by non disclosure of the RRP, these cars will be snagged up by the likes of Jay Leno (who makes himself more wealthy by televising about a car he just brought effectively paying for it) and young 'princes' racing up and down Knightsbridge in 1st gear.

Even Glasgowdon Ramsay is a celeb Ferrarista.

That's all the heritage you have left Ferrari, until you start winning in top motorsport again.

Bought.

Have you looked up the definition of heritage recently?

havoc

30,037 posts

235 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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fblm said:
Swalsey said:
To me these are stunning and I'm sure will sound and drive amazing. I'd buy one if I could, but I'd be really interested to see where the mass is coming from to make up 1500kg dry with a carbon fibre body. There must good reasons they are >600kg heavier than a 3-11.
The weight is really disappointing, particularly after the big song and dance they made about the Millechili concept a few years back. If ever there was a project to launch a 1000kg car this surely was it.
Agreed. I just don't get how some manufacturers can seem to make their cars out of lead...I mean, the engine itself will weigh-in at <250kg without gearbox, vs >150kg for the Lotus/Toyota V6. So even with gearbox you're only looking at ~150kg more. Bigger footprint probably accounts for the same again, chassis-wise, so there's maybe 300kg difference to the 3-11...


I mean - yes it's a Superfast underneath, but you've no glass, no interior to speak of, (presumably) no aircon or infotainment, and ultra-lightweight seats. That's gotta be >100kg of saving right there...before the CF bodywork and (presumed) reduced soundproofing.



Having had a whinge about the weight, they're utterly, utterly gorgeous though, and a very nice riposte to the Mclaren Senna.