RE: Ford Fiesta RS Turbo: Spotted

RE: Ford Fiesta RS Turbo: Spotted

Saturday 29th September 2018

Ford Fiesta RS Turbo: Spotted

For those who like it rough, better get your cheque book out - this fast Ford is £14,995



I’m told on reliable authority that the Fiesta RS Turbo that graced our roads (and hedgerows) some 28 years ago can be a handful. Even the road testers working for Autocar at the time concluded after running one for ten months that it was ‘fast but flawed’.

So, why bother writing a spotted about a car that many believe to be a bit pants? Well, we hear plenty of people bemoan the loss of cars that have an edge to them; stuff that forces you to concentrate on what you’re doing in order to get the best out of them. Well, here’s a fast Ford with horrendous turbo lag, strong torque steer, excessive axle tramp (that broke a door mirror when the car was performance tested) and a firm ride that was unforgiving enough to work the interior trim loose and cause rattles.


To be fair, there was an upside to this car and it was speed. Unlike the rather pedestrian standard car, the RS Turbo could do 0-60mph in 7.8 seconds, and a 30-70mph passing time of 7.2 secs, which was very good for a car of its day. The handling came alive at speed, even if the rock-hard ride meant that sharp mid-corner bumps would upset the compliance of the suspension.

Inside the RS Turbo there are only a few subtle clues that you’re in anything other than a regular Fiesta. You face a more sporty, leather wrapped three-spoke steering wheel. You perch yourself on heavily bolstered Recaro seats and you’re treated to the luxury of electric windows, probably as some concession to the sweat you’d build up from the non-power assisted steering.


On the outside, you’ll note that there’s a sporty body kit including new front and rear bumpers, side skirts and a subtle boot spoiler. Pleasingly, the green bumper inserts are present and correct on this freshly restored example, as are the three-spoke alloys with their comical round inserts that make you think it has large disc brakes all-round. The fronts maybe 240mm diameter roters, but the backs are drums, unfortunately.

But the abiding memory for many was the uncouth nature of this car, which you either love or hate. The CVH engine was coarse at the best of times and there was no aural pleasure to be found by wringing its neck up into the redline. Plus, the lack of a limited-slip diff hampered the potential of this car somewhat. A popular modification was to fit the gearbox of an Escort RS Turbo because that came with an LSD - albeit a rather slack one - since it shared the same bolt pattern as the Fiesta. You could also improve upon the 133bhp of the 1.6-litre engine by replacing the Garrett T2 turbo with a better T3 version. It would make the turbo lag even worse, but it did make the car much more exciting ones you’d built up the revs.


If you’re tempted to own one, then you’ll need to have an eagle eye for rust. These things succumb to tin worm at an alarming rate (as did many cars of the time), but some of the more obvious places include around the petrol filler, the side skirts and wheel arch trim, under the boot floor and below the battery tray. Sunroofs can also leak, usually caused by blocked gutters. Check for blue smoke coming out the back when you rev the engine which could indicate a turbo that’s on the way out. Also, look out for any signs of accident damage. Poor panel fit is usually the clue, but overspray on door and window rubbers is another one to look out for. Mechanical parts are quite easy to get hold of and should be reasonably priced. Unlike, perhaps, the cheeky asking figure of this car.
 


SPECIFICATION - FORD FIESTA RS TURBO

Engine: 1596cc, four-cylinder, turbocharged
Transmission: five-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 133@5500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 135@ 2400rpm
MPG: 26.2 mpg
CO2: Loads, and some blue smoke g/km CO2
First registered: 1991
Recorded mileage: 64,000
Price new: £12,460
Yours for: £14,995

See the original advert here.

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chickensoup

Original Poster:

469 posts

255 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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I remember driving one when new
Anyone unfamiliar with torque steer just needs 5 minutes in one of these
tentatively make sure the front wheels are pointing DEAD straight, floor the throttle, wait for the lag and then whoosh
Wheels not dead straight will leave you and the car fighting between road and hedge

ambuletz

10,733 posts

181 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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my first car was a mk3.5 fiesta. however i never liked the RS turbo because it was the pre-facelifted version with amber indicators and uglier grey interior. always preferred the RS1800. ridiculously expensive now. 10-years ago it seemed like you could quite easily buy the XR2i for nothing, nobody wanted them, now some peopel think they're rare/sought after and command dumb prices. madness i say!

RemyMartin81D

6,759 posts

205 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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The advert isn't clear if the price Includes £13,000 in the boot.

cerb4.5lee

30,534 posts

180 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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Always loved these to bits, I tried to get insurance on one when I was 20(25 years ago) but it was crazy money. Ended up with a Sierra xr4x4 instead...but this was the car I really wanted. Still really want one now! cool

howardhughes

1,004 posts

204 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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I had a Fiat MK2 Uno Turbo, as my first hot hatch but always wanted a Fiesta RS Turbo.
As with anything like that it comes down to money and what I could afford at the time.

There is a saying though. 'Sometimes the wanting is better than the having'...


trickywoo

11,780 posts

230 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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I had one for a year when I was 18. Somehow managed to keep it out of the hedges although I do remember getting into weight training to cope with the heavy steering.

I think mine may have had a Power Engineering 150 bhp chip as the pull in 5th from low revs (2.5k) was epic. Helped by a loud turbo whoosh and flutter of the impellor stalling on throttle lifts.

At the time I was working as a postman so 4am summer runs to the office are still memorable.

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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The first sentence of the review seems to suggest the writer hasn’t even driven one scratchchin

numtumfutunch

4,723 posts

138 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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Despite having a thing for fast fords I never bonded with the Fiestas, they just seemed bodged together to fill a gap in the range

5GT Turbo and 205 1.9 for me, if only I hadnt sold them......

p4cks

6,908 posts

199 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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s m said:
The first sentence of the review seems to suggest the writer hasn’t even driven one scratchchin
So what, this isn't a road test is it?

Anyway, these Ford RS cars are getting silly in their pricing - but I'm pleased that the 'pool' of these buyers is relatively small. They buy and sell from each other.

numtumfutunch

4,723 posts

138 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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And this one travelled minus 86 miles between 2006 and 2008


s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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p4cks said:
So what, this isn't a road test is it?
True, but it would be nice if they’d read some of the road tests themselves or actually tried one rather than regurgitating rumours and speculation into the write up hehe

Hub

6,433 posts

198 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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The mk3 Fiesta was a bit rubbish wasn't it? The early 90s weren't Ford's finest period in their history. I do like a fast Ford and I admit I have no experience of the RS Turbo, but it doesn't appeal at all. I'd rather have the less powerful MK2 XR2i! Those 3 spoke alloys don't help.

sixpistons

188 posts

123 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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I'm sure it's fun in a very unrefined sort of way, but anyone who pays 15 grand for it should be sectioned. You could buy half a dozen clio 172/182s for that price, they'll be better to drive, much quicker with a much nicer engine than the nasty CVH, and won't rust before your eyes. Or if you still want a slightly unruly turbocharged ford, buy a Mk1 Focus RS.

trickywoo

11,780 posts

230 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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Hub said:
I'd rather have the less powerful MK2 XR2i!
Wasn’t the i from the mk3 on?

Mk2 was carbs. I had a mk2 XR2 before the RS and I can assure you it was crap.

205gti was so much better. I had one of those at the time too.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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numtumfutunch said:
And this one travelled minus 86 miles between 2006 and 2008
Just spotted this myself!

Plus no current ticket either...

For 15 grand confused

Hub

6,433 posts

198 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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trickywoo said:
Hub said:
I'd rather have the less powerful MK2 XR2i!
Wasn’t the i from the mk3 on?

Mk2 was carbs. I had a mk2 XR2 before the RS and I can assure you it was crap.

205gti was so much better. I had one of those at the time too.
Oh, yes - I did know that, don't know why I put the I!

I agree on the 205 GTi though - that would be the one in my 80s collection!

cerb4.5lee

30,534 posts

180 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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I've never driven the RS Turbo, but my mate had a XR2i and I used to drive that a fair bit. There was always something about the Turbo that made me really want one, rose tints are always very strong for me with old Ford's!!

Lotusgone

1,186 posts

127 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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My RS1800 was great fun - bigger tyres meant you could make it hop round corners.

£15k for this one though - ?! A mate of mine who is into Bitcoin reckons with quantitative easing, more money has been created in the last ten years than in all previous time. Perhaps some of it is looking for a home, which might explain the £100k RS2000 Escort.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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I drove what I thought was a knackered one in maybe 1998 and it was truly dreadful, it wasn't until ten years later when I drove a friends "pride and joy" example that I realised the first one wasn't knackered at all, it was just a really st car.

This car is from the absolute nadir of Ford's output; the standard car was very poor and giving it a modest power boost exposed just how poor it was. Very hard not to look back on it with nostalgic fondness now though, but it realistically it's best purpose now is to serve as a reminder of just how bloody good cars have become.


Edited by dme123 on Saturday 29th September 10:48

JMF894

5,498 posts

155 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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The seller appears to have a stickying '9' on his keyboard........