RE: Vauxhall Ampera: Spotted

RE: Vauxhall Ampera: Spotted

Sunday 30th September 2018

Vauxhall Ampera: Spotted

Two engines and cheap to run, how can that be? It's one of those blasted range extender electric cars, isn't it?



We haven't suddenly had a change of heart about the wonders of the high-performance petrol engine. True, this Vauxhall isn't the sort of car to get traditional lovers salivating, but by the end of this Spotted, there should be a clear and reasoned argument for having an Ampera in your life. If not, lambaste me in the comments.

The newsfeeds of most automotive websites are full of new electric vehicles: Audi has just introduced their E-tron electric SUV, Tesla has started delivering the Model 3 to customers and Mercedes recently revealed the EQC. However, they're either too expensive, fraught with delivery problems or don't exist yet, which is no good to us in the here and now with only a fiver in our back pockets. Thankfully, there is a growing supply of used electrified vehicles for sale that are similar money to a regular petrol hatchback. This is where the Vauxhall Ampera begins to make a case for itself.

Introduced in 2012, the Ampera, and closely related Chevrolet Volt, were built both to satisfy the growing demand for electric vehicles, and because the American government insisted upon it. When the big automakers went to Washington to ask for a bailout back in 2008, the administration were said to be none too pleased when they found out that executives had used expensive private jets to get there. So the bailout came with the condition of forcing the US auto industry to produce cars that were much more competitive with Japanese and European imports. The Toyota Prius had cleaned up in the hybrid market, so America had to come up with something special to challenge it.


GM had previous experience with electric cars, having made the EV1 in the 90s, so it wasn't beyond them. However, even though the electric car had been around just as long as petrol alternatives, the public wouldn't spend $30-40k on a vehicle that they could only use for 50-100 miles before it needed a lengthy recharge. To try and please everyone, the new car would be a range extender that would run primarily on battery power until it was out of juice, then switch over to a conventional engine to keep owners mobile.

The engine in question is the 1.4-litre petrol engine from the Corsa. It's a bit noisy when running because it has to sit at higher revs in order to act as a generator, and produce enough charge to satisfy the demands of the electric motors that drive the wheels. There are occasions when the engine does actually drive the wheels directly - which GM initially denied to try and avoid confusion - but for the most part, this is an electric vehicle.


Of course, when it does run on electric power, the car is incredibly quiet. It takes only six hours to replenish the battery from a slow 240v mains plug, which can be done easily overnight. The range is between 30-40 miles and then the petrol engine takes over and extends your range by 300 miles or more. The idea is that during your working week, you use electric power and switch over to petrol at the weekend when you want to get away. Thinking about it, despite the oldest being six years old, the current crop of plug-in hybrids haven't improved much upon this.

And when you consider that this is the lowest mileage example currently for sale, the £14,500 asking price is quite remarkable for a three-year-old car. It's essentially half of what it was new. Yes, early examples of the BMW i3 are similar money, but the Ampera can go further, is a bigger car and comes loaded with kit. There are even five years left of the eight-year, 100,000-mile battery warranty. All things considered, if you want an electric car but don't want to be bogged down by range anxiety and infrequent charging stations, the Ampera is one of the best used electrified vehicles you can buy. See, I told you there was a reasoned argument to be made for it.



SPECIFICATION - VAUXHALL AMPERA

Engine: 1,398cc, four-cylinder, 45Ah battery pack
Transmission: Permanent magnet electric propulsion motor located in a multi-mode transaxle, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 148@ 5,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 237@ 250-2,800rpm
MPG: 235.4 mpg
CO2: 27g/km
First registered: 2015
Recorded mileage: 15,000
Price new: £33,750 (£28,750 with grant)
Yours for: £14,500

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hammo19

Original Poster:

4,973 posts

196 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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I have been tempted by the Ampera/Volt option. The car still looks modern 6 years on and looks good on the road. Range is very good, the car appears practical and would fit in with everyday life better than some current EV offerings.

My key concern is how good are the dealers in servicing and repairing the car.

Russian Troll Bot

24,967 posts

227 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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Not bad looking cars, but I never understood the point of that weird plastic ridge below the windows

Hub

6,432 posts

198 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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Good shout - the forgotten EV!

Do we know why they gave up on it so soon? Just poor sales?

Pooh

3,692 posts

253 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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I looked at getting one of these but I got a new Renault Zoe for £16500.00, the range of up to 185 miles has been enough for me over the last 20k miles and the running costs have been virtually nothing.

Merry

1,366 posts

188 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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Was right in the cusp of getting one of these, albeit a more leggy one around the 10k mark. Unfortunately they've only got 4 seats in them, which as the wife pointed out wouldn't work.

We ended up with an Outlander PHEV instead. I suspect the Ampera would have had a bigger electrical range and be a bit better on fuel so it is a shame really.

MuscleSaloon

1,548 posts

175 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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hammo19 said:
My key concern is how good are the dealers in servicing and repairing the car.
I think that goes for all of the electric / hybrid vehicles to some extent. There is such a long way to go before these things are even close to being accepted by the mass market.


Big Nanas

1,347 posts

84 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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hammo19 said:
My key concern is how good are the dealers in servicing and repairing the car.
I had one from new for three years and generally it's a good car, but only a few Vauxhall dealers are allowed to service it, which makes it difficult to own. In one memorable occasion, mine broke down 300 miles from home, and they had to trailer it to my local dealer (Wimbledon), rather than a nearby dealer. Very poor, really.

It further complicates thing when you're explaining to the service manager that it went into 'reduced propulsion mode' and he couldn't even say the word 'propulsion', let alone understood it. Sigh.

I averaged 178MPG on mine, and regularly got 50 miles out of a charge. When the 1.4 engine was running, it really was godawful though.

Big Nanas

1,347 posts

84 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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Big Nanas said:
I had one from new for three years and generally it's a good car, but only a few Vauxhall dealers are allowed to service it, which makes it difficult to own. In one memorable occasion, mine broke down 300 miles from home, and they had to trailer it to my local dealer (Wimbledon), rather than a nearby dealer. Very poor, really.

It further complicates thing when you're explaining to the service manager that it went into 'reduced propulsion mode' and he couldn't even say the word 'propulsion', let alone understand it. Sigh.

I averaged 178MPG on mine, and regularly got 50 miles out of a charge. When the 1.4 engine was running, it really was godawful though.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

261 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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How big is the fuel tank then?

tr3a

488 posts

227 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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Tyre Smoke said:
How big is the fuel tank then?
35 litres.

Evanivitch

20,040 posts

122 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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Fantastic car for doing the daily commute in. I've done 30,000 miles in 18 months in mine. Charge at home, charge at work (70 mile round trip), and if I need to go further afield it can do it with the engine running easily.

hammo19 said:
My key concern is how good are the dealers in servicing and repairing the car.
In short, terrible. Limited dealers have the ability, and they only have limited trained techs. Bellingers Wantage are very clued up, others not so much.

ShampooEfficient

4,267 posts

211 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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I just like it because it has hints of Subaru SVX around the back.

Hugh Jarse

3,497 posts

205 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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Merry said:
Was right in the cusp of getting one of these, albeit a more leggy one around the 10k mark. Unfortunately they've only got 4 seats in them, which as the wife pointed out wouldn't work.

We ended up with an Outlander PHEV instead. I suspect the Ampera would have had a bigger electrical range and be a bit better on fuel so it is a shame really.
Same for us.
Great looking car though.
Went for a Avantime instead.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

261 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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tr3a said:
Tyre Smoke said:
How big is the fuel tank then?
35 litres.
Surely then it has a greater range than 300 miles?

r11co

6,244 posts

230 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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Russian Troll Bot said:
Not bad looking cars, but I never understood the point of that weird plastic ridge below the windows
It is to disguise the high window-line as a result of the high floor because the batteries are under the seats.

bozzy.

780 posts

78 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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The article said "Thinking about it, despite the oldest being six years old, the current crop of plug-in hybrids haven't improved much upon this."


The current Prius Plug-In can manage up to 39 miles of EV driving from a single charge which takes 3.5 hours from a 240v socket, or closer to 2 hours using a fast charger (which you get fitted for free by Chargemaster if you buy a new one). Once the electric runs out, the car will run as a normal hybrid vehicle, just like a regular Prius. That means around 80mpg providing a decent length journey. The Prius Plug-In also has the ability to charge the battery back up whilst driving, unlike the Ampera.

Personally, I think that's a massive improvement in technology. That's before you even start to get into reliability, dealer service etc.

kambites

67,552 posts

221 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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bozzy. said:
The Prius Plug-In also has the ability to charge the battery back up whilst driving, unlike the Ampera.
What? Surely no-one has ever built a hybrid which can't charge its batteries from its internal combustion engine? That'd be crazy!

Evanivitch

20,040 posts

122 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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bozzy. said:
The current Prius Plug-In can manage up to 39 miles of EV driving from a single charge which takes 3.5 hours from a 240v socket, or closer to 2 hours using a fast charger (which you get fitted for free by Chargemaster if you buy a new one). Once the electric runs out, the car will run as a normal hybrid vehicle, just like a regular Prius. That means around 80mpg providing a decent length journey. The Prius Plug-In also has the ability to charge the battery back up whilst driving, unlike the Ampera.

Personally, I think that's a massive improvement in technology. That's before you even start to get into reliability, dealer service etc.
The Ampera can self-recharge upto 50% with mountain mode, but you'd be pretty stupid to do it unless you genuinely need a boost up a future mountain route.

The Prius battery is only 8.8kWh, the Ampera 10.5kWh (16kWh actually but it's very heavily protected).

The Prius only has a 91hp electric motor and limited to 62mph in EV. The Ampera EV motor is 130hp and goes all the way upto 100mph.

The Prius charges at 3.3kW like the Ampera.

The Ampera ICE will never kick in before the battery is depleted. Not under heavy acceleration. Not under high speeds.

I'd kill for the Prius MPG on petrol, but other than that it's definitely not a better car.

You're full of crap.


Bullitt Five-Oh

876 posts

67 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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"Two engines" - really? That's a dailymail sort of level right there. Engine and motor aren't the same thing.

These are interesting because majority of UK cars are MY12/13, rarely 14 and 15 are an unicorn. This car even though it's 15 reg will most likely be MY13, the only way to say for sure is VIN, there's also a way to tell the unicorn because they are post facelift and have slightly different central panel.

fbc

179 posts

136 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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Russian Troll Bot said:
Not bad looking cars, but I never understood the point of that weird plastic ridge below the windows
r11co said:
It is to disguise the high window-line as a result of the high floor because the batteries are under the seats.
It was an attempt to carry-over the original concept's styling which had glass where the black plastic is on the production version: