RE: Alfa Romeo 147 GTA: Spotted

RE: Alfa Romeo 147 GTA: Spotted

Tuesday 2nd October 2018

Alfa Romeo 147 GTA: Spotted

One of motordom's most glorious soundtracks is always worthy of attention. Ditto a hatchback body built the Alfa way...



We’re overjoyed that Alfa Romeo has begun to find its stride again, following the launches of the sweet handling Giulia and the all-important SUV-shaped cash cow, the Stelvio. Only a couple of years ago were we questioning its fitness for survival, but since Alfa’s been given extra financial backing and, even more importantly, the freedom to make cars that drive like Alfas, not just look like them, a turnaround has been set in motion. Although even now, there’s still plenty of work to do. You only have to click onto the Alfa UK website to realise this is very much a two horse show, with the Giulia and Stelvio playing stars of the line-up (the 4C is technically the top model but, well, how often do you see one?), while the ageing Mito and Giulietta do little more than make up the numbers. In fact, the former will be dropped entirely come the start of 2019, showing just how lacking the range is compared to Alfa’s competitors.

There’s at least good reason for the ditching of the Mito, mind, because Alfa said it’ll let go of this slow-selling hatchback to make space for more sports cars and, of course, SUVs. But it does seem like a major shame to us that there’ll be no desirable Alfa hatch on sale anytime soon. Yes, there's the Giulietta Veloce, which has 240hp and yes, it looks rather good, but to drive at pace, it’s rather average. Compared to the likes of the Hyundai i30 N, Renault Megane RS and Volkswagen Golf GTI, it either lacks their sparkle or falls at the wayside due to its dated interior. Little surprise, really, when you consider that the Giulietta will be getting on for nine years old in a few months. Perhaps the last of the desirable Alfa hot hatches has long gone. You know where this is going.


The 147 GTA – now that was an Alfa hot hatch with proper Alfa desirability. It was gorgeous, with that muscular yet elegant body, offset numberplate and wheels that – to this writer’s eyes – blow all other designs out of the water. But its key ingredient also made those attractive traits feel somewhat irrelevant; yes, it's the first thing you thought of when you read 147 GTA: that glorious naturally aspirated 3.2-litre V6. Pressing the right pedal was akin to opening a direct audio feed to the Rome Symphony Orchestra’s latest performance.

With 250hp it’s potent even by today’s hot hatch standards, although transmitting that power to the road through the front tyres was somewhat restrictive to its performance. 0-62mph took a respectable but not particularly impressive 6.3 seconds. It was also rather, ahem, nose heavy. That’s what happens when you stick a 3.2-litre motor under the snout of a hatchback. As such, it never offered handling to go with its vocals, and in truth, the best cars have been modified with aftermarket limited slip differentials to boost traction and, in some cases, uprated suspension to keep the body in check better than the slightly under-damped standard setup.


Such modifications have been applied to today’s Spotted, which is a 63,000-mile-old 2004 car that looks to have been owned by an enthusiast keen on enhancing on-road performance. Along with the aforementioned adjustments, this car also has a cat back exhaust system and a carbon fibre induction kit, so it’s voice should be amplified nicely. It also uses Brembo four-pot brake calipers with performance pads, meaning it should stop a fair bit quicker than an unmolested example.

Although – at the time of writing – this is the lowest mileage 147 GTA on the classifieds, we were almost tempted towards another car finished in a stunning shade of blue. But this black example’s tasteful upgrades left us thinking it could be the sweeter handling option, should you be happy to opt for a modified car, that is. This car isn’t the cheapest on sale at £8,500, but it has just received new, genuine lower wishbones, droplinks and roll bar bushes, and is described by the seller as driving “fantastically”. If you’re after an Alfa hot hatch with appeal that far surpasses the hatchback offerings in its current range, you need look no further.


SPECIFICATIONS - ALFA ROMEO 147 GTA
Engine:
3,179cc, V6
Transmission: Six-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 250@ 6,200rpm
Torque (lb ft): 221@ 4,800rpm
MPG: 23
CO2: 287g/km
First registered: 2004
Recorded mileage: 63,000
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £8,500

See the original advert here.

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Discussion

Addymk2

Original Poster:

334 posts

172 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Now that is tempting.

I've always been tempted by one of these. I always regretted selling my 145 Cloverleaf and this just seems like a logical step up.

I'm out of the country until November or I'd have snapped this up. Hopefully it's still there then!

Motorsport3

499 posts

192 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Why people paint their wheels black? Particularly teledials have to be aluminium for their design to be appreciated. Maybe its just me..

Peppka

107 posts

190 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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This one might be worth a look https://www.alfaworkshop.co.uk/for_sale/alfa_romeo... it is Alfa Workshop owner Jamie Porter's car so should be in good fettle. It is red has the Q2 diff carbon fibre intake and scorpion exhaust. There is little to beat the Busso 3.2 V6 for aural delights. If you want at 147 GTA or a V6 GT buy it now as they will only get more costly. I paid £5000 for my 2004 V6 GT 5 years ago and could sell it for more today.


Edited by Peppka on Tuesday 2nd October 07:10

s m

23,222 posts

203 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Motorsport3 said:
Why people paint their wheels black? Particularly teledials have to be aluminium for their design to be appreciated. Maybe its just me..
Personal preference probably - something a lot of people on here don't understand at all. Or maybe it was a cheaper way to tidy them up.

I prefer them silver or even a gunmetal finish myself


JohnoVR6

690 posts

212 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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I know everyone has a story like it, but I still can't believe I let mine go for less than £3,000 several years ago. Hands down, my biggest automotive regret. To date.

1974foggy

676 posts

144 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Motorsport3 said:
Why people paint their wheels black? Particularly teledials have to be aluminium for their design to be appreciated. Maybe its just me..
Agree, just looks like plastic wheel covers have flown off, plus they lose all the detail.

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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s m said:
Personal preference probably - something a lot of people on here don't understand at all. Or maybe it was a cheaper way to tidy them up.

I prefer them silver or even a gunmetal finish myself
^ This. Plus they don't show up the brake dust as much.

viggyp

1,917 posts

135 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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I think 0 - 60 of 6.3 for a FWD car which wheelspins loads is pretty darn decent even though to me it's not that important. I remember when Autocar did their 0 - 100 - 0 test when these were new and it hit 60 in 5.7 seconds, which back then was the first fwd production car to get under 6 seconds

I love these cars and always wondered what colour I'd get one in? Black, Red, that lovely light blue etc? Hmmm.

Agent XXX

1,248 posts

106 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Epic things!

Jon_S_Rally

3,403 posts

88 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Being pedantic, it looks like both the blue and black car are modified, at least a little bit.

Nice cars these. I can't help but smile a bit at this article. A few days ago, a flawed hot hatch was posted (Fiesta RS Turbo) and it was lambasted as being a disaster. This (flawed) hot hatch is posted, and people wax lyrical about it. If the badges were swapped, I wonder if the reaction would be the same.

Hackney

6,836 posts

208 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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I owned a 156GTA with similar mods. Brilliant car, unfortunately not suited to the mileage I was doing.
Would love to have one again though as a weekend car. That engine!!!!

OldSkoolCool

7 posts

93 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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This one has been for sale for a little while - looks like the GTA market is pretty slow as it looks lovely and has all the right mods.

only1ian

688 posts

194 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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The same engine in my old GTV cup! I’ve owed several performance v8’s but that busso was the best note + chromed intakes...

Agent XXX

1,248 posts

106 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Hackney said:
I owned a 156GTA with similar mods. Brilliant car, unfortunately not suited to the mileage I was doing.
Would love to have one again though as a weekend car. That engine!!!!
My old pair.

156 GTA and 155 V6






Edited by Agent XXX on Tuesday 2nd October 10:30

V8 FOU

2,973 posts

147 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Apart from the sound, is one of these worth £8K+ when the TS is around a grand?
The TS is a better handling car due to less weight....add a supercharger for £3K and you have as much power as the V6.
But the noise.... the noise.... difficult call.
I have a 147 2.0 and really love it. Cost me about £600. I really find it difficult to justify the extra for the V6 sound. If it was the Busso, though......

ToothbrushMan

1,770 posts

125 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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looks a beauty and very left field in a sea of turbo cars......on the figures 5.7 sounds good to 60 (todays fastest FWD 300 plus BHP hatches still cannot crack 5.7 thinking the SEAT Megane and Golf but that could be to 62 not 60).

In 2003 Evo magazine timed a new Mk1 Focus RS with just 212bhp at 5.9s to 60 for comparison when the book was 6.4s.

same era two very different recipes. similar performances.

Of the two I would say the RS looks extremely dated now relative to this 147 GTA.

I agree about the wheel colour - for me the darkest I would go with an alloy wheel is a gun metal shade as you can still appreciate the design and also make out where the wheel arches and tyres start and end unlike a black wheel where its just one big black hole. each to their own.

Tankrizzo

7,262 posts

193 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Sold mine a few weeks ago after a few years of ownership, was very sorry to see her go. Didn't last long in the classifieds, was up for just over a week.


Oilchange

8,460 posts

260 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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V8 FOU said:
Apart from the sound, is one of these worth £8K+ when the TS is around a grand?
The TS is a better handling car due to less weight....add a supercharger for £3K and you have as much power as the V6.
But the noise.... the noise.... difficult call.
I have a 147 2.0 and really love it. Cost me about £600. I really find it difficult to justify the extra for the V6 sound. If it was the Busso, though......
Talking of Alfa V6s I bought my 156 2.5 for about 850 quid about 7 years ago. It needed a new water pump so a cambelt was on the cards. That cost me about 900 with spark plugs and an oil change.

I still have it, its incredibly reliable bar the front suspension and the perishing oil breather pipes which knacker through time and usage rather than being crap parts. That and not being very well rust proofed underneath but i will just reweld as i go i think. All fixed and running great though.

I love it in black with black leather. I was able to change out the droning back box a year ago for a wizard, my god what a noise! I cant bear to part with the thing now, nothing like it on the road at least near me...

Ares

11,000 posts

120 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Motorsport3 said:
Why people paint their wheels black? Particularly teledials have to be aluminium for their design to be appreciated. Maybe its just me..
I beg to differ.....




J4CKO

41,526 posts

200 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Was it these on the TG review that ploughed stright on and had smoke pouring off the tyres, I know that isnt normal treatment but do they handle ok ?