Friday 19th October 2018

Mission E Cross Turismo to enter production

The high riding EV is heading to a Porsche showroom near you in 2021 - here are the first details

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Porsche's board has green lit the all-electric Mission E Cross Turismo for series production, with the manufacturer creating 300 new jobs at its Zuffenhausen headquarters in preparation.

We've been introduced to the Cross Turismo before, of course, the car having debuted as a concept at this year's Geneva show. Porsche CEO Oliver Blume called it "a serious prospect for production" at the time, and with 0-62 and 0-155mph times of 3.5 and 12 seconds respectively, it's serious in more ways than one. This performance is possible thanks to two synchronous electric motors, which bestow it with a "system output of over 600hp" and, we'd imagine, rather a lot of torque.

To keep all that in check while also fulfilling its Cross-Utility Vehicle remit, it makes use of both Porsche's Torque Vectoring technology and adaptive air suspension, allowing an increase in ground clearance of up to 50mm. Its 800-volt architecture is prepared for connection to the charging network via both plug-in fast charger and induction and it supposedly capable of a 310 mile range (although that figure is based on the outdated NEDC test).

Derived from the forthcoming Taycan, the four-door Mission E Cross Turismo will sport a bigger boot along with its raised ride height in order to reinforce its more practical, go-anywhere image. There's no word on exact pricing or specs yet, though Robert Meier, Line Director for the Taycan, recently told Automotive News that he was "expecting a price somewhere between a Cayenne and a Panamera" for that model. This would place it in the region of £55,965 and £67,898, with the Cross Turismo surely not far off that either. More news when we have it.

[Dwayne Dibley]

Electric cars.....meh!

[NDNDNDND]

I presume this is going to end up being called the 'Taycan 2'?

[anonymous-user]

What a sound it must make achieving all those impressive figures!

[scottygib553]

That is superb but I would buy one just to lower it

[tr3a]

Dwayne Dibley said:

Electric cars.....meh!

Quite. Nobody wants less noise, cheap energy, simplicity, efficiency and eyeball shifting instant acceleration. We all want a noisy, complicated and hugely inefficient mechanism that's derived from the steam engine, with a peaky torque curve that needs a primitive box of mechanical gears to make the thing work at all, which burns expensive chemicals with which we prop up murderous regimes and religions, meanwhile destroying our world and calling everybody who doubts the wisdom of it all a stupid leftist greeny.

After all, we've always done it this way, right?!

[hondansx]

Erm, what happened to this?

[Collaudatore]

5 posts before the arguing begins.

Not bad work for a Friday afternoon

Bravo to all at PH Towers

[spikyone]

hondansx said:

Erm, what happened to this?

Now called the Taycan.

[friscorays]

Wish there was a like button for that one tr3a!

[greyarea]

tr3a said:

Dwayne Dibley said:

Electric cars.....meh!

Quite. Nobody wants less noise, cheap energy, simplicity, efficiency and eyeball shifting instant acceleration. We all want a noisy, complicated and hugely inefficient mechanism that's derived from the steam engine, with a peaky torque curve that needs a primitive box of mechanical gears to make the thing work at all, which burns expensive chemicals with which we prop up murderous regimes and religions, meanwhile destroying our world and calling everybody who doubts the wisdom of it all a stupid leftist greeny.

After all, we've always done it this way, right?!

+1

Nice rebuttal

[unsprung]

tr3a said:

Dwayne Dibley said:

Electric cars.....meh!

Quite. Nobody wants less noise, cheap energy, simplicity, efficiency and eyeball shifting instant acceleration. We all want a noisy, complicated and hugely inefficient mechanism that's derived from the steam engine, with a peaky torque curve that needs a primitive box of mechanical gears to make the thing work at all, which burns expensive chemicals with which we prop up murderous regimes and religions, meanwhile destroying our world and calling everybody who doubts the wisdom of it all a stupid leftist greeny.

After all, we've always done it this way, right?!

I don't disagree

and for best effect, this can be spoken in a continuous statement with nary a breath between sentences

like the second woman, here:

https://youtu.be/DS1YYtQ_LLY

[PhantomPH]

To quote Arnie, "That's one ugly motherfker".

[chrisironside]

greyarea said:

tr3a said:

Dwayne Dibley said:

Electric cars.....meh!

Quite. Nobody wants less noise, cheap energy, simplicity, efficiency and eyeball shifting instant acceleration. We all want a noisy, complicated and hugely inefficient mechanism that's derived from the steam engine, with a peaky torque curve that needs a primitive box of mechanical gears to make the thing work at all, which burns expensive chemicals with which we prop up murderous regimes and religions, meanwhile destroying our world and calling everybody who doubts the wisdom of it all a stupid leftist greeny.

After all, we've always done it this way, right?!

+1

Nice rebuttal

As above.

[Nerdherder]

greyarea said:

tr3a said:

Dwayne Dibley said:

Electric cars.....meh!

Quite. Nobody wants less noise, cheap energy, simplicity, efficiency and eyeball shifting instant acceleration. We all want a noisy, complicated and hugely inefficient mechanism that's derived from the steam engine, with a peaky torque curve that needs a primitive box of mechanical gears to make the thing work at all, which burns expensive chemicals with which we prop up murderous regimes and religions, meanwhile destroying our world and calling everybody who doubts the wisdom of it all a stupid leftist greeny.

After all, we've always done it this way, right?!

+1

Nice rebuttal

Amen.

[deadscoob]

These things will just move the problem, they won’t change it.
We’ll become an electric focussed world with all the new power stations/solar /wind farms to support.
They’ll be developed by the oil companies - Exxon-EV probably lol.
The murderous regimes will continue.
Recharging stations will have queues longer than Asda’s pizza counter in fatville on a Friday night
Chargepoint rage will become a new world
The roads will reek of the smell of dodgy over worked burning out electrics from 40k mile cars with dodgy batteries and electrics - (guess no change from French cars there)
Landfill will be full of cheap oem style battery packs and charge cables from GSF/eBay
All the while we’re whirring around like a cheap rc car thinking “well this is better”
Hmm

[unsprung]

to discount the positive changes that BEVs will bring is, IMO, inaccurate

the data and informed opinion are easily found online

moreover, BEVs are not advancing alone in a vacuum

• enhanced / cleaner / more efficient ICE
• ICE-EV hybrids
• on-demand transport
• ride sharing
• transport subscriptions
• autonomous and semi-autonomous features
• smartphone based tools
• co-working
• co-living
• continuous adult learning
• e-learning
• e-medicine
• e-government solutions
• high-speed wide-area wireless internet

when viewed holistically, we can see how ordinary people in the leading nations of the world will be able to make more nuanced and more intelligent choices about infrastructure / lifestyles / costs / benefits

BEV is not some sort of elixir, but it's overwhelmingly one of the positives

[RDMcG]

I quite like it but am enjoying the waning days of the engine

Have a few N/A cars and recently added a Panamera Sport Turismo Turbo. No hybrid.
Just the rumble of a V8.

In a way it reminds me of the old American wail of the steam trains. Wonderful sound but will increasingly be a voice of the past.

[tr3a]

deadscoob said:

These things will just move the problem, they won’t change it.
We’ll become an electric focussed world with all the new power stations/solar /wind farms to support.
They’ll be developed by the oil companies - Exxon-EV probably lol.

Yes. Lol.

deadscoob said:

The murderous regimes will continue.

Of course they will. It's not as if we can make our own energy already. The solar panels on my roof are just for showing off.

deadscoob said:

Recharging stations will have queues longer than Asda’s pizza counter in fatville on a Friday night

Exactly! Everybody will be utterly dependent on recharging stations, because electricity outlets in homes haven't been invented yet.

deadscoob said:

Chargepoint rage will become a new world

It's good of you to think of these things. Nobody else thinks of the problems, they only see the opportunities. Stupid wkers.

deadscoob said:

The roads will reek of the smell of dodgy over worked burning out electrics from 40k mile cars with dodgy batteries and electrics

Precisely! Its much better that roads reek of diesel particles, spent engine oil and unburned petrol. We've been having that for ages, it's what we know, so why change it, eh?

deadscoob said:

Landfill will be full of cheap oem style battery packs

So true. Car makers only put a minimum warranty of eight years on their batteries, so they wear out extremely quickly. The stupid things can't have a second life for grid energy storage and the cobalt, nickel and other metals in them are instantly worthless, so there's no point in recycling them. It's only logical that they should be dumped in landfills.

deadscoob said:

All the while we’re whirring around like a cheap rc car thinking “well this is better”
Hmm

[Plug Life]

deadscoob said:

These things will just move the problem, they won’t change it.
We’ll become an electric focussed world with all the new power stations/solar /wind farms to support.
They’ll be developed by the oil companies - Exxon-EV probably lol.
The murderous regimes will continue.
Recharging stations will have queues longer than Asda’s pizza counter in fatville on a Friday night
Chargepoint rage will become a new world
The roads will reek of the smell of dodgy over worked burning out electrics from 40k mile cars with dodgy batteries and electrics - (guess no change from French cars there)
Landfill will be full of cheap oem style battery packs and charge cables from GSF/eBay
All the while we’re whirring around like a cheap rc car thinking “well this is better”
Hmm

PH Neanderthals – never fail to entertain.

[Mike335i]

Even as someone who has little interest in electric cars (for now), but huge interest in buying something noisy and fun, this thread is hilarious and some well constructed rebuttals well deployed.