RE: Cupra Ateca: Driven

RE: Cupra Ateca: Driven

Tuesday 30th October 2018

2020 Cupra Ateca | PH Review

The first model from Seat's standalone performance brand has arrived. And no, it isn't a robot in disguise



We've had eight months to get to grips with the idea that Cupra is a standalone brand and no longer the trim badge applied to hot Seats. Now we get to meet its first product: the Ateca, which is actually a Cupra version of a Seat model. Go figure. As puzzling as this is - and will continue to be because an Ibiza is due next - the brand wants desperately to be taken seriously. With seven models due by 2020, its bosses promise that making Cupra its own entity isn't just a marketing ploy; it's about unleashing the Spanish performance division from the ties of its parent. "We want to take it out of the Seat world to the race track," is how sales and marketing boss Wayne Griffiths put it earlier this year. The Ateca is the first physical example of that ambitious process.

It absolutely has to leap out of the starting blocks and hit the ground running, so Cupra's first model gets the Volkswagen Group's ubiquitous EA888 turbocharged 2.0-litre in 300hp and 295lb ft form, meaning it's got the same power and more torque than the Seat Leon Cupra 300 (erm, yes, to add to the confusion Seat still sells the Cupra-badged model for now) and is more potent than any other SUV of this segment. In fact, the four-cylinder unit puts it so far ahead of the rest of the pack (think Nissan Qashqai and Peugeot 3008 et al), the only SUVs with comparable performance are in the class above and made by the likes of Jaguar, Audi and even Porsche. Cupra's first model ought really to be sailing in clear waters.


As standard it uses the VW Group's new seven-speed DSG automatic and sends drive through a front-biased Haldex all-wheel drive system. This setup enables the hot Ateca to sprint from 0-62mph in 5.2 seconds, leaving it only three tenths shy of the 300hp Volkswagen Golf R and its closely related technical setup, despite being 130kg heavier at 1,632kg all in. The car also gets standard-fit adaptive dampers with drive modes ranging from comfort to sport, as well as a Cupra mode. Plus, there are four-piston Brembo brakes and a new exhaust system, too.

Given the extent to which the hardware has already proven itself, it's a compelling specification - which makes it somewhat disappointing to climb aboard the Cupra Ateca and find it very much in Seat mode. It's true there are no visible S-logos; only triangular Cupra badges adorn the interior, each looking for all the world like the kind of Transformer stickers you can get off eBay. But the cabin is wholly familiar and even where Cupra has indulged - with some bronze finish and a sportier-looking TFT display - it fails to spice things up much. Our press car came with deep bolstered sports seats up front, but disappointingly these are only available as a cost option.


The engine note at least will be unfamiliar to current Ateca owners. It's that same deep, purposeful tone which has been filling VAG cabins since the start of the decade, and on the move it pulls strongly, with the keenness we're accustomed to in the Golf R - with perhaps the slightest discernible edge removed. Even when set to Normal mode the Cupra Ateca is rapid though, building speed from low pace with real urgency, helped in part but a set of tightly stacked ratios (first is very short) and the quick shifting DSG. You'd lose in a drag race to a Golf R, obviously, but not by as much as you might expect. Cupra's opted against the use of a sound symposer in the Ateca, and apparently that's not down to cost cutting either - brand bosses even went so far as to brag about it in the press conference. According to them it allows the engine to project a more natural, albeit less rorty, sound. There are a couple of crackles on the overrun from the exhaust as well, though generally it's quieter and more mature than other EA888 models.

That trait signals the car's overall character, because it's no yob, being far too concerned with making progress in the smoothest, quickest way possible. On the even tarmac of our Catalonian launch drive, the adaptive dampers did an excellent job of eradicating unwanted body roll, and even with quick direction changes you won't unsettle it easily. Nor will you provoke the chassis into the kind of playfulness that tends to make a good hot hatch such a diverting steer. Dive deep enough into the infotainment menus to turn the stability control off - it remains on until you do this, even in Cupra mode - and it becomes apparent that the inherent safety bias is plumbed into the chassis as much as the electronics.


The Ateca has clearly been developed to enable quick cross-country running without drama, pushing into slight understeer if you test the limits of mechanical adhesion on turn in. Otherwise its nigh on impossible to make the Pirelli P-Zero-wrapped 19-inch wheels come unstuck even when you dispatch the engine's full potential through a corner on smooth Spanish tarmac. The brakes are ultra strong, too. It's the kind of package that speaks to ground-covering ability of a modern crossover, without doing anything to satisfy someone looking for a deeper level of engagement.

Ultimately, there's no doubt the Cupra Ateca fills its niche very effectively - so much so that it's hard really to see what alternative there is in the sub £40k price bracket. Of course, if we were in the market for something family-sized and performance based heralding from south of the Pyrenees, our money would be spent on the cheaper Seat Leon Cupra, because, well, you can't deny the laws of physics. The wagon - which shares basically the same powertrain - will get you where you going slightly more quickly, slightly more cheaply and without the handling handicap of a higher roofline. If you must have an SUV though, the Cupra Ateca sets the bar for its size - even if its maker's standalone status still leaves a somewhat bad taste in the mouth. To us, its first model is too much like a Seat Ateca performance variant. Which needn't have been a bad thing in the first place.


SPECIFICATION - CUPRA ATECA

Engine: 1,984cc, 4-cyl, turbocharged
Transmission: Seven-speed dual-clutch, all-wheel drive
Power (hp): 300@5,300-6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 295@2,000-5,200rpm
0-62mph: 5.2sec
Top speed: 154mph
Weight: 1,632kg
MPG: 38.2 (NEDC combined)
CO2: 168g/km
Price: £35,900






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Dale487

Original Poster:

1,334 posts

123 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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There’s something not right about the Triangle Cupra badge where the square S badge should be - maybe itll be better in later models or as familiarity increases.

It sounds as good as expected, being made from existing parts. Plus it’s good value & under the important £40k tax point compared to other performance SUVs.

I’d like to know if there is any logical reading to buy a base Macan instead of one of these? (The only reason I can see is a Porsche badge)

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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Many reasons to buy a base Macan. It’s a Porsche. And no it’s not just a badge. The Seat looks like a nice package for the money. Make it as a Tiguan allspace and my wife would be very happy. Well, I would when I drove it.

simonbamg

767 posts

123 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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cant really see a downside to this, even better that it has no visible S (seat) badges

Motormatt

484 posts

218 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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SEATs strategists after a very long lunch.
“Let’s take all the SEAT badges off the Cupra models to show we’re really serious about this performance car thing”.
“Great idea. We’ll show how serious we are about taking badges off by launching a souped up family friendly school run car which is actually not as focused on performance some other models we already sell with the SEAT badges stuck on”
“Job done, let’s go home “

LukeyC

50 posts

153 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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I quite like it, but If you're going to insist it's definitely not a Seat but a standalone brand, don't have "Music Session SEAT Album" on the digital dash for the press shots!

JackReacher

2,127 posts

215 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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Having seen one in person, I think the stick on bits look a bit tacky.

I just don't know how successful that these will be, in the past I'd have thought they would likely sell very well to the average family man/women who want an SUV and some performance.

But these days, I think that the badge is generally more important and, and at that price a "slower" Q3 or X3 with less equipment will be more appealing to 95% of potential buyers. Most SUV buyers are very image conscious.

spikyone

1,451 posts

100 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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Not the kind of car I'd buy, and to trot out a PH cliche all those exterior "upgrades" do look a bit like someone covered it in superglue and ram-raided a branch of Halfords in the late 1990s.

But it does seem to be what CHM Top Gear would call reasonably priced. That's a good amount of performance, in a sizeable chunk of metal and plastic, for £35k. Comparing it to a Macan is grossly unfair; you can buy the Ateca and have £10k in change - not to mention infinitely cheaper running costs from avoiding the Porsche tax. The Ateca is a fair bit faster than a base Macan too. It's like comparing apples and orange wheels getmecoat

IforB

9,840 posts

229 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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I like it. I currently drive an S3 sportback and love the thing, though it is just that bit too small as a family car, which means we need a larger car too. This seems like a decent compromise, fast, though inevitably heavier and won't handle as well, but that bit more useful, whilst not being ridiculously expensive like a Macan.

I'm certainly interested, even if I'm not convinced by the whole Cupra thing.


Fire99

9,844 posts

229 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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I don't see how the writer of this article is getting their knickers in a twist over the 'Cupra issue'. Seems not significantly different from what Fiat and Abarth do, and to a lesser extent Alpina and BMW etc..

Attempting to add an air of exclusivity to a performance label isn't exactly new news.

Potent little thing though. 5.2 0-60 is not to be sniffed at. Will be interesting to know what it's like at rolling speeds, to see what it's flexibility is like.

Futse

183 posts

185 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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"To us, its first model is too much like a Seat Ateca performance variant."

Because it is?

BrightonEd

76 posts

161 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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SEAT!
Not 'Seat'

It's an acronym - 'Sociedad Española de Automóviles de Turismo'

Do you have no sub-editors any more?

Yours, grammatically, etc..

Sheepshanks

32,753 posts

119 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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spikyone said:
Comparing it to a Macan is grossly unfair; you can buy the Ateca and have £10k in change -
Wonder what the total cost of ownership would be? Cupra Ateca's depreciation is likely to be immense.

can't remember

1,078 posts

128 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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Pretty much like all SEATs before, it looks like a 10 year old VW with a body kit. It's got the dynamics, but style and flair haven't turned up to the party.

Gameface

16,565 posts

77 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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You think that looks like a 10 year old car?

underphil

1,246 posts

210 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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the 280bhp Alfa Stelvio is probably the closest rival, costs a few grand more though and isn't quite as quick

Blanchimont

4,076 posts

122 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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underphil said:
the 280bhp Alfa Stelvio is probably the closest rival, costs a few grand more though and isn't quite as quick
It's about 10k more. But the Mrs is looking for other options than a stelvio, this may be it.

JMF894

5,503 posts

155 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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Really like this. When our 2 series GT is up for changing I could well be very intrested.

PhilboSE

4,353 posts

226 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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Sheepshanks said:
spikyone said:
Comparing it to a Macan is grossly unfair; you can buy the Ateca and have £10k in change -
Wonder what the total cost of ownership would be? Cupra Ateca's depreciation is likely to be immense.
The Ateca is very much an in-demand car (I could sell my 1.4 today for what I paid for it 2 years ago) so I'd expect it's residuals to be at least as good as the Golf R. But a bit less of a thief magnet I'd expect.

Dale487

Original Poster:

1,334 posts

123 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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Sheepshanks said:
spikyone said:
Comparing it to a Macan is grossly unfair; you can buy the Ateca and have £10k in change -
Wonder what the total cost of ownership would be? Cupra Ateca's depreciation is likely to be immense.
The Ateca & Macan have very similar cabin accommodation and boot size. And different power outputs of the same engine, in the cheaper cars favour.

I know there is £10K difference, which I guess will only get worse if you spec up a base Macan to match the Ateca's kit and anyone buying a Macan wouldn't want the Ateca. But there most be something the Macan offers over prestige and Top Trump figures - better suspension & overall calibration?

I think a head to head test is the only way to confirm this.

Dale487

Original Poster:

1,334 posts

123 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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PhilboSE said:
Sheepshanks said:
spikyone said:
Comparing it to a Macan is grossly unfair; you can buy the Ateca and have £10k in change -
Wonder what the total cost of ownership would be? Cupra Ateca's depreciation is likely to be immense.
The Ateca is very much an in-demand car (I could sell my 1.4 today for what I paid for it 2 years ago) so I'd expect it's residuals to be at least as good as the Golf R. But a bit less of a thief magnet I'd expect.
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When I looked at Atecas 2 years ago, the only car that beat the predicted residuals for it was the Macan. But the over £40K+ tax on the Macan won't help its total ownership costs.