RE: Broadspeed GTS: Spotted

RE: Broadspeed GTS: Spotted

Thursday 22nd November

Broadspeed GTS: Spotted

The Broadspeed GT 2+2 is a famously rare curiosity. But its race car sibling, the GTS, is one-of-a-kind



For a car of such diminutive proportions, the Mini certainly left a lasting impression on the world of motorsport. From its famous rally victories on the snow-covered slopes of Monte Carlo, to the David vs Goliath battles with vehicles twice its size in the British Saloon Car Championship, the bite-sized Brit tended to punch well above its weight.

One driver with first hand experience of the Mini's sporting prowess was Ralph Broad, whose success racing the car in the late 1950s and early '60s led to him founding a team of his own: the creatively named Broadspeed. By 1965 the outfit's success had seen it become the official works team of BMC Mini in the European Touring Car Championship, taking the chequered flag in its class at circuits including Spa, Monza and Zandvoort on behalf of the brand.


Despite his success with the standard Cooper S, in 1966 Broad made the switch to racing Fords, and at the same time began work on his own significantly redesigned incarnation of the Mini. In its most thoroughly reworked form, the Broadspeed GT 2+2, as it was dubbed, featured a new interior, adjustable suspension, rear anti-roll bar and twin fuel tanks. It also received a tuned engine with a reworked cylinder head, a custom camshaft, re-contoured combustion chambers, a 10.5 to 1 compression ratio and a modified inlet manifold.

It also, of course, sported an entirely redesigned rear end. Crafted from fibreglass it was significantly more streamlined than the standard car's boxy behind. It did somewhat restrict access to the boot, though (in that it completely eliminated it) so fold-down rear seats were included, through which a storage space could still be reached.

Compared to today's Spotted, however, the 28 examples of the 2+2 which saw production before the factory was demolished in 1968 are positively common. Only one race-prepped GTS was ever made. That car, the one for sale here, had a claimed top speed of 140mph thanks to significant weight saving achieved though lightweight magnesium-alloy wheels, a lightened chassis and lightweight doors and bonnet.


Its strengthened sub-frame, undertray, fully adjustable front and rear suspension, competition dynamo, and further tuned 1,366cc engine made it a formidable foe for those it came up against. The car was campaigned throughout the 1966 and '67 seasons by Broadspeed's own John Fitzpatrick, securing multiple class wins and podium finishes during that time.

Broadspeed itself would go on to develop the fantastic XJ12 which raced in the European Touring Car Championship in 1966 and '77, while the fate of the GTS remained unclear until its recent restoration and listing for sale. For £90,000 it's now up for grabs alongside an equally immaculate 2+2, giving one enthusiast the chance to own two irreplaceable chapters of Mini-lore.

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Ahonen

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4,279 posts

215 months

Thursday 22nd November
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Fantastic. When I was 15 and 16 I was a Saturday kid, plus school holidays, at a little tuning company called AVJ Developments in Worcestershire. The owner was a guy called Tony Jones, who was Broadspeed's chief engine man throughout the '60s. Sadly Tony was suffering from MS when I was there ('88/'89) and was gradually winding the business down, but the stories and anecdotes of the old days - including some tales about the development of this car - will live with me forever.

I got to help work on Aston Martins, old Porsches, many Group 4 Escort MK2 rally cars and even things like Audi Quattros. As a start point in my own life in motorsport I couldn't have asked for a better mentor or experience.

cookie1600

1,034 posts

97 months

Thursday 22nd November
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"contemporary reports estimated to be capable of 140 mph"

Considering a more standard Broadspeed was tested by Motorsport magazine and only got to 112 mph, that's a lot of lightening and a huge hike in power to make up the difference, considering the bodywork aerodynamics are pretty much the same. I imagine there was a lot of 'estimates' given for speed and horsepower back in those days, that was simply paddock talk.

GranCab

1,267 posts

82 months

Thursday 22nd November
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DB5 meets Mini .....

Esceptico

1,519 posts

45 months

Thursday 22nd November
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Cool car. But £90k?

Turbobanana

1,185 posts

137 months

Thursday 22nd November
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These are the two previously offered by JD Classics, right?

IIRC the ambitious-sounding top speed claims were largely the result of the better aerodynamics over the standard car which, no matter how well tuned, struggled to get much past 100mph even as a 1275cc Cooper S.

Tenuous link, but I used to work for the re-invented Broadspeed in the late nineties / early noughties, just as the business moved from Mini restorations to car imports. Still had a lot of old Minis around at the time, including the very first 1071cc Morris-badged Cooper S I believe. Also a Mini ice cream van.
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silentbrown

4,093 posts

52 months

Thursday 22nd November
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cookie1600 said:
"contemporary reports estimated to be capable of 140 mph"

Considering a more standard Broadspeed was tested by Motorsport magazine and only got to 112 mph, that's a lot of lightening and a huge hike in power to make up the difference, considering the bodywork aerodynamics are pretty much the same. I imagine there was a lot of 'estimates' given for speed and horsepower back in those days, that was simply paddock talk.
Weight makes no difference to top speed. All that matters is power and drag. Assuming gearing wasn't the limiting factor on the standard "Broadspeed" car, to go from 112 to 140 top speed would require around twice the power smile

CharlieAlphaMike

211 posts

41 months

Thursday 22nd November
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Turbobanana said:
These are the two previously offered by JD Classics, right?
Woodham Mortimer bought JD Classics after they went into administration so I think we can assume this was part of the stock inventory.

cookie1600

1,034 posts

97 months

Thursday 22nd November
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silentbrown said:
Weight makes no difference to top speed. All that matters is power and drag. Assuming gearing wasn't the limiting factor on the standard "Broadspeed" car, to go from 112 to 140 top speed would require around twice the power smile
Exactly. I've done 112mph in a slab fronted, heavily modified Clubman and there was plenty of power, just too much 'wind' against me to go any faster!

gigglebug

963 posts

58 months

Thursday 22nd November
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Does the link to the advert not work?

Turbobanana

1,185 posts

137 months

Thursday 22nd November
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Esceptico said:
Cool car. But £90k?
In fairness, you get TWO cars, or just over 7% of total production.

Cledus Snow

1,858 posts

124 months

Thursday 22nd November
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Turbobanana said:
Esceptico said:
Cool car. But £90k?
In fairness, you get TWO cars, or just over 7% of total production.
I think that’s each.

Also, have a look at what a standard Cooper S sells for.

Turbobanana

1,185 posts

137 months

Thursday 22nd November
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Cledus Snow said:
I think that’s each.
Advert doesn't say that...

hondansx

3,258 posts

161 months

Thursday 22nd November
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Great story. Imagine for a Mini collector this would be a dream buy!

cookie1600

1,034 posts

97 months

Thursday 22nd November
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Turbobanana said:
Advert doesn't say that...
https://woodham-mortimer.com/Cars/For-Sale/1966-Broadspeed-Mini-GTS-Works-Race-Car/834a6f34-d877-4a67-f576-08d526a380ce

A little ambiguous, but it does detail both cars and only gives one price.

CharlieAlphaMike

211 posts

41 months

Thursday 22nd November
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Very confusing. The ad refers to two cars and pictures the cars together outside the showroom but the pricing isn't exactly clear. Is it £90K for one car or for both?



Turbobanana

1,185 posts

137 months

Thursday 22nd November
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cookie1600 said:
Turbobanana said:
Advert doesn't say that...
https://woodham-mortimer.com/Cars/For-Sale/1966-Broadspeed-Mini-GTS-Works-Race-Car/834a6f34-d877-4a67-f576-08d526a380ce

A little ambiguous, but it does detail both cars and only gives one price.
Woodham Mortimer said:
Professionally restored in recent years they offer a possibly once in lifetime opportunity acquire two of the most important Mini derivatives of the 1960s.

sr.guiri

235 posts

25 months

Thursday 22nd November
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It it were a Mini, it'd be expensive, but it aint. 90K invested into this I don't think would be your worst investment decision. It has kudos and rarity - just what collectors are looking for.

Whether it does 140mph or not, really doesn't matter. In the hands of most collectors, it'll probably achieve a maximum of 2mph as it's pushed around it's heated storage.

No my cuppa T however.




LotusOmega375D

4,017 posts

89 months

Thursday 22nd November
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CharlieAlphaMike said:
Very confusing. The ad refers to two cars and pictures the cars together outside the showroom but the pricing isn't exactly clear. Is it £90K for one car or for both?


Give them a call. But make sure everything is in writing.

annodomini2

5,688 posts

187 months

Thursday 22nd November
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Cledus Snow said:
Turbobanana said:
Esceptico said:
Cool car. But £90k?
In fairness, you get TWO cars, or just over 7% of total production.
I think that’s each.

Also, have a look at what a standard Cooper S sells for.
I'd put money it'll go north of £100k with it's rarity and race pedigree.

A rot box '64 Cooper S sold for £20k very recently.

Restored early Cooper S' are fetching £45k+ depending on the car and it's history.

steveb8189

188 posts

127 months

Thursday 22nd November
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Come on BMW, these new Mini's are enormous