RE: V8 - The Final Performance: Time For Coffee

RE: V8 - The Final Performance: Time For Coffee

Tuesday 18th December 2018

V8 - The Final Performance: Time For Coffee?

The last ever Morgan V8s are being made - time to bid them farewell



"This year marks the 50th - and final year - of Morgan using a V8 engine." So opens Morgan's release accompanying this vid about the demise of the N62 BMW V8 in its cars. Pretty significant news, it might well be argued, given how central to the appeal of a senior Morgan various big V8s have been for the past half a century.

To mark this historic moment, Morgan has produced 'V8 - The Final Performance'; it features Chief Test Driver Keith Dalley, a Morgan employee for nearly 20 years and more familiar with the V8 cars than anyone else. He describes the BMW engine as a "perfect match" for the car, a statement we'd wholeheartedly support, adding what a sad occasion the final example rolling out of the factory will be. Again, you won't find us objecting to that statement, our experience of V8 Morgans having been almost overwhelmingly positive.


But times they are a changin', and next year Morgan will reveal something new, described currently just as a 'Wide Body' sports car; it won't have a V8, although Morgan has stated that it will have a chassis twice as stiff as the outgoing car, helping to create "the most dynamically capable production Morgan ever". As for what engine will power it, nobody outside of Morgan currently knows, though our video star Dalley does say the V8 wouldn't have been ditched "if there wasn't something better coming along in future."

So what could it be? If the BMW relationship has continued, then there's the straight-six S55 turbo as used in the M3, or the less exotic B58 as found in the various '40i' models. Elsewhere the Ford Ecoboost V6 has already seen use in British sports cars (see the Radical RXC Turbo), so there are possibilities. All other suggestions are welcome...

For now it's time to enjoy the V8 one last time, and the heartfelt affection from a man who knows it like no other. Thanks for the memories Morgan; let's hope there are plenty more to come with the next generation.


 

Images: Autocar

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griffdude

Original Poster:

1,824 posts

248 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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PH might like to know that Morgan have been producing the Roadster with V6 power since 2004....

JP.Racing

51 posts

67 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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This is sad, always been a fan of the V8 Morgans. Got to move with the times though and I look forward to seeing what's next!

Mike335i

5,004 posts

102 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Shame, certainly feels like the end of an era

cybersimon

199 posts

169 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Moving with the times.
Viper V10s then

leakymanifold

61 posts

86 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Please let it be a Cosworth V12

M Powered

349 posts

209 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Autocar said:
When it first announced the EV3, Morgan said the car “looks at the world of zero-emissions motoring from an entirely different perspective; what if an all-electric vehicle was bespoke, hand-crafted and exhilarating to drive?


An electric machine...?

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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A chassis twice as stiff as the outgoing model. Morgan have confirmed that the modern Dovetail joint will be implemented and a few logs of Teak has been found to use in place of Ash.

j90gta

563 posts

134 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Look no further than a Bavarian turbocharged straight six putting out at least 340 bhp.

GAFF1974

65 posts

221 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Always wondered why they never used a Jag V8?

Mr-B

3,780 posts

194 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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j90gta said:
Look no further than a Bavarian turbocharged straight six putting out at least 340 bhp.
The teaser at the end is hinting at what's to come I think.

If I ever had the money and was in the market for a Morgan it would only have ever been for a V8, sad times.

MrC986

3,492 posts

191 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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GAFF1974 said:
Always wondered why they never used a Jag V8?
Maybe it's because BMW were apparently very accommodating on the project & probably liked the Englishness of the product & never saw it as a threat, whereas Jag might have done briefly? A supercharged Jag engine in the next car would give a great noise/feeling IMO.

dinkel

26,942 posts

258 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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The 4.4 had the perfect noise & sound package. Something a V6 could never offer although maybe it's a better mill.

oilit

2,626 posts

178 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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or a new 'old vanquish' based car with a new aston straight 6 that would help give Am an additional 24 engines a year to help justify their engineering.

seriously though I would suspect they are hedging their bets - I would - importing engines from Europe if we exit with a bang would be problematic wouldn't it - better to source UK or US built engines maybe?

When you think about it, INEOS, Morgan, AM and JLR are all going to need engines - I wonder what that would be as a total annual number if they could make it different from a marketing perspective ?

tombstone

202 posts

213 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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It's just a shame Morgan Motor Company have laughable customer service when it comes to supporting cars older than six months! It's now a joke trying to deal with the factory, and some of the dealers no better.. I wouldn't go near another one now, and I'm a seasoned owner and factory trained former technician!

Niffty951

2,333 posts

228 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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leakymanifold said:
Please let it be a Cosworth V12
hehe

andymac

112 posts

283 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Yep end of the v8 for all Manufacturers soon

Morgan have strong relationship with BMW so look out for a v6.

Augustus Windsock

3,368 posts

155 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Totally agree about how sad it is that the V8 will be no more
I have a slightly odd take on it though...
I think companies like Morgan ought to be allowed to keep such engines.
Why?
Well, the low numbers of cars they sell, combined with the low miles each of those cars does, id reckon it would take over 10 Morgan’s to 1 BMW 5 Series repmobile to create the same amount of emissions.
So in my man-maths addled brain, that one Morgan has less of an impact than an equivalent car and should be allowed an exception in law to carry on regardless!
Just got to convince Jonathan Porritt and all the other muesli-treading, sandal-eating tree-huggers...

foggy

1,159 posts

282 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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When the time’s right in a goodly few years I’m gonna have myself a Morgan of some sort for burbling around the Great British countryside cloud9

Gareth1974

3,418 posts

139 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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andymac said:
Morgan have strong relationship with BMW so look out for a v6.
Didn’t think BMW make a V6?

andymac

112 posts

283 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Gareth1974 said:
andymac said:
Morgan have strong relationship with BMW so look out for a v6.
Didn’t think BMW make a V6?
Whoops your right straight 6