RE: Palomar Mountain: PH Dream Drive

RE: Palomar Mountain: PH Dream Drive

Thursday 27th December 2018

Palomar Mountain: PH Dream Drive

We head to California's Highway to the Stars with Ford's PP2-equipped Mustang GT



From time to time the observatory atop Southern California's remote Palomar Mountain is closed to the public, meaning traffic on the flowing ribbons of asphalt which wind their way up and down the 5,500ft peak is virtually non-existent. It was on one such day that I was heading north east out of San Diego, past the casinos of the Rincon Luiseno Reservation, towards Highway 76 and eventually, Palomar itself.

Leaving the sea air and perma-warmth of the Pacific Coast behind, I'd ventured inland in search of a place to better get to grips with the talents of a very intriguing PH test car - the Ford Mustang GT Performance Pack 2.  


Available on manually transmissioned, coupe bodied Mustang GTs only, the PP2 aims to fully exploit the potential of the Coyote-engined car, while going some way to bridging the gap between it and the Voodoo-powered GT350s which occupy the next rung on Ford's performance ladder. Power and torque from the 5.0-litre V8 remain unchanged, at 460hp and 420lb ft, as do the other headline figures, with 0-60 taking 3.9 seconds and top speed still limited to 155mph.

Where the PP2 diverges from the standard GT formula is in how it goes about exploiting that potential. Deep breath now. Contact with the road comes via four 305/30ZR Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tyres (that's right, 305s 19x11-inch rear wheels - a full one and a half inches wider than the standard Performance Pack car. Suspension takes the form of retuned MagneRide dampers and springs which are 20 per cent firmer up front and 13 per cent firmer in the rear, the brakes use "track-inspired" Brembo six-piston calipers and the tubular front and solid rear anti-roll bars are 12 and 67 per cent stiffer respectively. An enormous new front splitter and bespoke rear spoiler add a little extra downforce to the already absurd levels of mechanical grip, completing the package.


Wider, firmer, stiffer - make your own jokes there - are the main themes of the PP2, then, and it totally transforms the Mustang GT from traditional pony car to track-focused stallion. Unfortunately there isn't a circuit at our disposal, but then there are plenty of bends up in the mountains of Southern California...

Here the Palomar loop offers much of what you'd hope to find behind the wheel of such a car. Switchbacking its way up the steep face of the mountain, the road rises sharply, pitching you ever skyward before sweeping upwards to a dead-end at the gates of the observatory. Dashing from sea-level to over a mile in elevation can be hard work, though, so a quick photo op and a stretch of the legs later feels a wise move. Luckily there's a handy rest stop at Mother's Kitchen as well (which comes highly recommended), leaving you ready to face the rest of the run.


From then on the roads are more open, and even more enjoyable as a result. East Grade Road reverses the gain in altitude made previously, but takes about five times the distance to do so, offering up several sets of beautifully laid out corners and curves. Here the Mustang is in its element, the V8 roaring its way towards its 7,500rpm redline and the six-speed manual a perfect partner. On the coast, the thing was an absolute pain, the Cup 2s tramlining constantly and requiring constant correction on even the straightest of roads. Here in the mountains, the tyres provide immense grip, steering immediate and natural in its feel as all that suspension and chassis work keeps things eerily composed.

With Lake Henshaw on your left, a right on Highway 76 returns you to the beginning as expediently as you might hope, allowing the opportunity to open the throttle a little wider than perhaps you previously dared - within the limits of good reason and the law, of course. From here you can repeat the circuit to your heart's content, or turn around and try it in reverse; either way, you're sure to be treated to some fantastic driving roads and breathtaking scenery every time, with plenty of opportunities to stop and take it all in.


Pulled up at one such lookout point I had time to appreciate not just the vista, but the car as well. It just looks incredible, even better in the metal than in photos. The lowered stance in combination with its aggressive wheels and splitter immediately identify the PP2 as something special. It's strikingly purposeful without appearing over the top; in fact it may just be the best looking Mustang I've seen since the first generation - 1971 Boss 351 potentially excluded - and drew plenty of admiring glances and overt ogles from passers-by, despite the relative prevalence of Mustangs of all stripes in SoCal.

The PP2 isn't currently available in this country, mainly because that splitter would scythe the feet off a pedestrian from 200 yards, but also likely because it just wouldn't really make sense here. Despite costing just $6,500 more than standard a GT, and only $810 more than a PP1-equipped GT specced with MagneRide (which is standard on the PP2), it certainly isn't an option box I'd be ticking on a Mustang purchase made in pounds and pence.


The car felt a handful on US roads; on ours I can only imagine how much of a nuisance that tramlining would be. That splitter scraped on just about every dip, speed bump and driveway it encountered, no matter how carefully they were approached - sorry Ford! - and thankfully there wasn't any rain to deal with on those tyres - severely unlikely over here...

Besides, we already have a wide enough range of more appropriate options when it comes to the whole track-car-for-the-road concept. No, far better to leave the Performance Pack 2 where it belongs, on the wide open roadday on Palomar Mountain, where it made for an absolutely dream drive.  

Follow the route here.

 








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QuattroDave

Original Poster:

1,462 posts

128 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Sounds like a swing and a miss on the PP2, but then the mustang was never going to be an out and out sports car, it's firmly in GT territory.

Gotta say after covering 1,400 miles in two weeks in a boggo rental mustang convertible in Florida just last month I was incredibly impressed with it. Okay the 2.3 sounded rough as nuts when it was being wrung for any sort of decent acceleration but everything else seemed to work well, the roof has good sound insulation when up and those seats, god they were comfy. Don't think I've ever felt so relaxed after a 7.5 hour 450 mile drive!

I was 90% towards buying the standard 5.0 gt coupe but at the last minute switched to an M140i due to a silly cheap deal on a new one. Always wondered whether I'd made the right choice or not. The US trip did me no favours.

Would be interesting to do a comparison between this, the bullitt version, the standard GT and what the hell why not the ecoboost too!

smig12345

30 posts

64 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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I am a big fan of the Mustang, it's got great looks, 5.0 naturally aspirated V8, manual gearbox, rear wheel drive and one of the best sounding engines of any new car on sale, that American V8 muscle car burble. Thank you Ford for making this car in right hand drive. I would personally be happy with a regular 5.0 GT manual coupe.

mrmotorhome

107 posts

142 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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I bought a V8 auto convertible in June and absolutely love it. The 5-litre engine sounds superb and gives the car absolutely effortless urge but it is the other stuff that has surprised - oh-so-comfy seats (cooled in summer, heated in winter enough to put the roof down), the genuine four-seater capacity with good boot (pushchair and luggage no problem), decent sat-nav, great stereo, and like a coupe with the roof up. Even MPG is much better than expected. What else could you get for £30k (used) that comes anywhere near? I can't think of anything... Brilliant car and the last of a dying (almost extinct) breed of naturally aspirated V8s.

QuattroDave

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1,462 posts

128 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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mrmotorhome said:
I bought a V8 auto convertible in June and absolutely love it. The 5-litre engine sounds superb and gives the car absolutely effortless urge but it is the other stuff that has surprised - oh-so-comfy seats (cooled in summer, heated in winter enough to put the roof down), the genuine four-seater capacity with good boot (pushchair and luggage no problem), decent sat-nav, great stereo, and like a coupe with the roof up. Even MPG is much better than expected. What else could you get for £30k (used) that comes anywhere near? I can't think of anything... Brilliant car and the last of a dying (almost extinct) breed of naturally aspirated V8s.
I was totally surprised by what I could fit in the boot of the convertible I had. Awkward shape but with planning everything goes in. What sort of mpg are you generally getting? The one I had was only the lowly ecoboost but it averaged just under 40mpg (uk converted) over 1,400 miles.

I saw nearly 30 mpg from the V8 I test drove but as amazing as that was I felt it was going to be a fluke!

unpc

2,835 posts

213 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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QuattroDave said:
I saw nearly 30 mpg from the V8 I test drove but as amazing as that was I felt it was going to be a fluke!
I often get 30+ on a motorway jaunt in mine (coupe). The trip computer has never been reset and shows an average of 24mpg. Surprising good for what it is.

QuattroDave

Original Poster:

1,462 posts

128 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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unpc said:
QuattroDave said:
I saw nearly 30 mpg from the V8 I test drove but as amazing as that was I felt it was going to be a fluke!
I often get 30+ on a motorway jaunt in mine (coupe). The trip computer has never been reset and shows an average of 24mpg. Surprising good for what it is.
Cheers fella, kinda bang on what I was expecting. around the same average as the V8 A8 I had and RS6 but in a far cooler car. I restrict myself to a 2 car home if I can help it or three if there's a classic or interesting car. I say this as I had more of an emotional connection with the mustang in two weeks than I have with my m140 in 2 years, but it's just such a capable and all round good car I'd really struggle to sell it which means until I do I don't think there's room for a mustang in my household frown

jwwbowe

576 posts

172 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Not far from the 76 is the route 74 from Palm Desert over the Santa Rosa mountain, amazing drive great views of the Coachella valley, did it in GMC Yukon 6.3 V8 hire car this year, big fun biggrin

Nerdherder

1,773 posts

97 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Love the Mustang V8. Weird that Ford organised road and not track sessions for this spec.

Stigproducts

1,730 posts

271 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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I've been on this road and I'd caution against adding this to your "dream drive" bucket list and booking your trip and mustang rental. It's not really possible to have much fun going up, or down. Look at it on a map and its amazing but in reality you are hampered by
-cyclists huffing and puffing up a very long and steep hill, often peleton style that it takes a while to sneak past
-slow moving vehicles and very little opportunity to overtake
-squadrons of fat middle aged men on Harleys
-Police. Fines for speeding or doing something dangerous start at around the $500 mark. They know people try and drive up the road fast, and are waiting for you!

Thoughts of squealing around a hairpin bend on the edge of adhesion soon get a solid slap down.

and the cafe mentioned in the article- vegetarian only. The last thing I want after a long drive is a crappy bean burger!

VanquishRider

507 posts

152 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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That’s great MPG. Wife’s Boxster 3.2 S only averages 25 on average. Low 30’s on a run.

These mustangs do look great. They will be amazing value at 5 years old. Future keeper classics for bargain money. 5 litre manual Coupe or Convertible. How could you resist? Better than a decent MG B or TR 6.... But for similar money in a few years?

ReaperCushions

6,004 posts

184 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Stigproducts said:
I've been on this road and I'd caution against adding this to your "dream drive" bucket list and booking your trip and mustang rental. It's not really possible to have much fun going up, or down. Look at it on a map and its amazing but in reality you are hampered by
-cyclists huffing and puffing up a very long and steep hill, often peleton style that it takes a while to sneak past
-slow moving vehicles and very little opportunity to overtake
-squadrons of fat middle aged men on Harleys
-Police. Fines for speeding or doing something dangerous start at around the $500 mark. They know people try and drive up the road fast, and are waiting for you!

Thoughts of squealing around a hairpin bend on the edge of adhesion soon get a solid slap down.

and the cafe mentioned in the article- vegetarian only. The last thing I want after a long drive is a crappy bean burger!
Agree wholeheartedly. I live about 40 miles from this road and wouldn't bother. Head to the Angeles Crest highway instead... although get there early for pretty much the same reasons.

mrmotorhome

107 posts

142 months

Friday 28th December 2018
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Mine has done 24.8mpg over the last 2k miles or so. On a very busy motorway cruise - so stuck at 60-65mph - it did over 30mpg! If you avoid short trips to the shops 24-25mpg seems realistic. And every trip has that lovely burble...
I was originally intending to wait until they dropped to £20k-ish but then realised life is too short - mine was 2 years old with 15k and balance of Ford warranty, so seemed too good to miss. Amazingly, Mustangs apparently have one of the highest residuals in the coupe world, so another plus of ownership!

CaptainSensib1e

1,434 posts

221 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2019
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VanquishRider said:
These mustangs do look great. They will be amazing value at 5 years old. Future keeper classics for bargain money. 5 litre manual Coupe or Convertible. How could you resist? Better than a decent MG B or TR 6.... But for similar money in a few years?
They seem to be holding their value pretty well, even 3 years old ones are still commanding about 80% of their list price (if you look at V8s). A future classic no doubt.