RE: £100k Supra!

Wednesday 16th January 2019

£100k Supra, now £390k!

Following the buzz of the Mk5 Supra's reveal, this dealer thinks it can make an even larger fortune...



UPDATE - 16.01.2019

In the week that we welcomed the new Toyota Supra to the world, one Chicago dealer has decided it can make a quick buck - or rather, many bucks - by taking advantage of all the buzz and selling a certain immaculate Mk4 for half a million dollars.

Yes, this is the car we saw sold for an already astonishing £100k just a few weeks ago, ramped up so it's now being offered for over £110,000 more! Could this be evidence of surging Supra prices following the launch of the new car? Erm, no, probably not.

More likely, this is Chicago Northside Toyota hoping to draw as many eyes to its website and dealership to ride the wave of excitement following the Mk5 model's arrival. It's certainly worked. But given that there's a decent enough Supra on sale on PH of a fifteenth of the price, it's a bit pie in the sky.

ORIGINAL STORY - 04.01.2019


Low mileage, impeccably maintained dream cars of the 90s and 2000s selling for lots of money isn't that new: see the £130k E39 M5 and £50k Integra Type R as prime examples. That said certain results are still surprising, and arguably none more so than this: a Mk4 Toyota Supra has sold in America for $121,000. At today's exchange rate that £95,000. Crumbs.

Predictably enough the Supra is an exquisite example of the A90 generation: registered in 1994, the manual car has covered just 7,000 miles in a quarter of a century. The interior, paint, wheels, every single aspect of the car in fact, is unmolested and totally standard. It's a targa top rather than a full coupe, which means it's one tick off the bingo card full house, but it still looks rather special.


Whether it looks good value, however, is a very different question. There's no doubt that Supra values have been climbing in recent years on both sides of the Atlantic, and a certain fervour will have been created with the A90 imminent. The appreciation of its contemporaries, cars like the Skyline GT-R and Honda NSX, should also be taken into account as well. Plus the fact that Supras for sale currently in the US are commanding big bucks. That makes the situation easier to explain perhaps, but still difficult to fully get your head around.

Still, the car has been bought, so somebody deemed it an appropriate sum of money and, similarly to the Evo featured on PH earlier this week, Supras like this one must be getting scarcer by the day. Those who have their hearts set on the very best examples of these Japanese icons will now have to pay more than ever for them, then. Bring on the £20k Almera GTI... 


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irocfan

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40,365 posts

190 months

Friday 4th January 2019
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Insanity

WCZ

10,515 posts

194 months

Friday 4th January 2019
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nuts. horrible interior and not even a turbo (correct me if i'm wrong)

the_hood

770 posts

194 months

Friday 4th January 2019
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£95k Supra. No?

Alex_225

6,249 posts

201 months

Friday 4th January 2019
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It is no doubt the most original, mint, low mileage example of that car and I suspect bought by a collector who loves it for what it is.

I suspect like many on here, £100k on a Supra sounds like a bit of a joke though and I'm not that much of a fan of these cars to think £20k would be reasonable.

On the flip side, if I had millions in the bank and collected cars. Obviously I'd have the super cars, hyper cars, classics etc. If I wanted the best example of a car I loved albeit a more ordinary one, I probably wouldn't flinch at paying a silly price.

beerexpressman

240 posts

137 months

Friday 4th January 2019
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Paint on the rear bumper looks a bit iffy?

cheesesliceking

1,571 posts

240 months

Friday 4th January 2019
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beerexpressman said:
Paint on the rear bumper looks a bit iffy?
Agreed, for 95K i'd be wanting zero orange peel

seiben

2,345 posts

134 months

Friday 4th January 2019
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WCZ said:
nuts. horrible interior and not even a turbo (correct me if i'm wrong)
It is a turbo model smile

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Friday 4th January 2019
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Wow. 100k.

Where did my life go wrong? I struggled to sell mine only 2 years ago.

ITBScone

22 posts

168 months

Friday 4th January 2019
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Agree on the bumper comment, looks like it's had paint. Normally you'd be a fool for commenting on a car of that age having paint, as most will have. This one, however, is meant to be the highest level of prestige, so I wouldn't expect orange peel and a less than factory finish.

Easily fixed, though. I would love a Mk4 Supra if I had the money and room to spare.

G0ldfysh

3,304 posts

257 months

Friday 4th January 2019
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What's the retail on one of those?!!!?

Turbobanana

6,242 posts

201 months

Friday 4th January 2019
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beerexpressman said:
Paint on the rear bumper looks a bit iffy?
Poorly repaired drift damage smile

Bennet

2,119 posts

131 months

Friday 4th January 2019
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More than you can afford, pal.

Turbotechnic

675 posts

76 months

Friday 4th January 2019
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Bennet said:
More than you can afford, pal.
thumbupdriving

dunnoreally

960 posts

108 months

Friday 4th January 2019
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This is for a well heeled collector to put in his climate controlled garage with his equally pristine AE86, 2000gt and Celica GT-Four to only see the light of day at the occasional classic car show. Which is fine, honestly, it's nice that there's a few preserved perfectly for future generations. All part of looking after the sports car's heritage.

carjerk

127 posts

184 months

Friday 4th January 2019
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beerexpressman said:
Paint on the rear bumper looks a bit iffy?
Fairly standard paint finish for a 90's Toyota. I remember seeing them in the dealerships like this,

1974foggy

676 posts

144 months

Friday 4th January 2019
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G0ldfysh said:
What's the retail on one of those?!!!?
"More than you can afford pal" rings true for many, actually more than some Ferraris in fact!!

beerexpressman

240 posts

137 months

Friday 4th January 2019
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carjerk said:
beerexpressman said:
Paint on the rear bumper looks a bit iffy?
Fairly standard paint finish for a 90's Toyota. I remember seeing them in the dealerships like this,
I did wonder about that possibility...

TwinExit

532 posts

92 months

Friday 4th January 2019
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anonymous said:
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Was your car unmodified, almost new condition with sub 10000 miles?


Scootersp

3,153 posts

188 months

Friday 4th January 2019
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The rear bumpers are always like that as they age, if the colour matched 100% it would be more likely to have had paint.

So it looks bad/mismatched but isn't a bad sign re originality.

Prices of all classics are based on what really? rarity, sentiment? I think it's nuts the price of this but equally so of loads of other classics/semi modern classics.

It's a dynamically better car than an E type and some of these are way north of this price, so e types are more, due to age, design, restoration costs, badge? To more on here I suspect the E type is a genuine classic and the Supra a little Jap tat in some ways but in the US I don't think Jaguar means as much marque wise? and the Japanese stuff has a wider appeal there......they may even be slightly less badge snobby?

Essentially when it gets to this point, you have either people believing they will always at least hold their value or as said they are wealthy enough to not care and just want the best/a very good one?

It's like a Van Gogh painting, if it made £4M 5 years ago, someone at auction will pay perhaps £5M knowing in another 5 years someone will pay £6M? When the worth is what really over a decent print? It's worth it because someone will pay it as the cliche goes.

What's a shame is that the value is now linked so heavily to the mileage it's unlikely to actually be enjoyed, more ornament/display thing than used car.




Atomic12C

5,180 posts

217 months

Friday 4th January 2019
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There are some dumb people with money, and then there are some truly dumb people with money !

I for one don't see the logic in thinking that a 20+ year old now very much outdated Toyota, of which many were built and are still owned around the world, and of which numerous collection houses will have pristine examples to go a view if you so much desire, would sell for anything more than £20k ?

It would surely have been much more cost effective to have gathered the parts and hired a mechanic to assemble a fully working model than fork out over 100k USD ?


Alternatively , is the Toyota Supra a piece of collection 'art' ?
No, I don't think so. For any enthusiast its more or less worthless if your not going to be able to drive it.