RE: Lexus RC F Track Edition - official

RE: Lexus RC F Track Edition - official

Monday 14th January

Lexus RC F Track Edition - official

Weight reduction, standard ceramic brakes, titanium exhaust... things are looking good for the circuit ready Lexus



'A higher degree of F' is what's promised by Lexus for this new RC F Track Edition. Given nobody is entirely sure what 'F' actually means just yet, as it extends from the LFA - one of the finest supercars of the 21st century - to the CT200h F Sport, that assertion seems to be lacking in depth somewhat. What's in no doubt, however, is the very promising spec touted by this new RC.

Despite its billing, the Track Edition is not an M4 GTS rival. Lexus reports that "refinement was not sacrificed for all-out speed; the Track Edition is an uncompromised luxury performance coupe with the ability to impress on the track and off." As a result the Track Edition still features all the equipment you would find on a regular RC F - up to and including an exclusive red leather and Alcantara interior - with the weight savings found elsewhere.


Specifically there's a focus on unsprung mass - "since removing any weight from the mass not supported by the suspension pays huge dividends in handling and steering feel", don't you know - and therefore the RC F TE gets standard ceramic brakes, forged BBS wheels and new calipers. All told they account for 25kg of the claimed 70-80kg of weight loss, plus there are the additional benefits that come with ceramics in terms of circuit staying power. And the wheels look cool.

The additional weight saving comes from CFRP panels (see the roof and the bonnet) and using carbon for the partition between the rear seats and the bumper reinforcement. Note too the fixed rear wing, which is not only lighter than the standard active item, but provides both additional downforce and a reduction in drag. The revised front splitter is also said to contribute some additional downforce at that end.


Interestingly the Track Edition doesn't actually have any more power than the standard RC F, which has also been refreshed at Detroit. In fact, power is down from before, the 5.0-litre V8 now making 457hp instead of the original 477, for which we assume WLTP is to blame. What has changed is the exhaust, this racier RC F using a titanium system to further reduce weight and provide "a unique sound."

The Track Edition will begin production in March, with pricing to follow soon. And if you're thinking Nebula Matt Grey isn't the colour for you, the only other option is Ultra White - what is it with lightweight specials and reduced colour choice?


As for the standard RC F, it too has been treated to some (much-needed) weight loss measures, albeit without any specific figure yet claimed. Lexus talks of hollow driveshafts instead of solid ones, a "pared down" intake manifold, smaller air-con compressor and aluminium brackets - hardly drastic, it might be argued, and so unlikely to shave much off the podgy 1,765kg kerbweight.

Other changes include a lower threshold for the second intake opening (now 2,800rpm, instead of 3,600rpm), and a higher final drive ratio (3.13 replaces 2.93), the latter to improve acceleration and surely to compensate for the effects of less power and slightly reduced torque (was 391lb ft; now 384).


Furthermore, the new F gets bespoke Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tyres, new engine mounts and the sort of cosmetic jazzing up that's typical of this sort of update - refreshed lights front and rear, another tweak of the spindle grille and slightly different bumpers. This is not the facelift to convert the RC detractors into believers, though there's certainly not going to be any missing it.

Like the Track Edition, the standard 2019 RC F will be built from March and priced soon. Are these changes enough to draw you from a C63 or M4? Indeed, are they good enough updates to beat the established Germans? And can that Track Edition really deliver? We'll find out soon enough.







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arkenphel

Original Poster:

407 posts

151 months

Monday 14th January
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Ooo, that looks quite nice actually. I'd probably use it as a sporting GT than a track car, with the occasional Ring foray.
This looks like the spiritual successor to the E92 M3.

RumbleOfThunder

2,853 posts

149 months

Monday 14th January
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Thumbs down. I'm not getting on the gravy train just for the sake of a nice sounding V8. Releasing a more track focused, more expensive version with less power is inexcusable. But they'll get a pass because not German and contrarian i guess.

big_rob_sydney

2,365 posts

140 months

Monday 14th January
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Big Lexus fan.

The disappointment is strong with this one...

After so much talk previously around weight reduction, the people who said the targets were impossible have proven to be right. Too heavy, and not powerful enough.

sthouse.

cib24

801 posts

99 months

Monday 14th January
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The US market is pointing out an increase in power of 5hp and 6lb ft on the old car. Is the loss in power only relevant for EU delivered cars due to the particulate filters?

Nerdherder

1,447 posts

43 months

Monday 14th January
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The V8 LC should have a stripped out (e.g. lose A LOT OF weight and optimise suspension, gear ratio's+shifting and brakes) track special version.

This RC version doesn't do it for me.


Edited by Nerdherder on Monday 14th January 11:46

rampageturke

933 posts

108 months

Monday 14th January
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god that things ugly

Alexw88

56 posts

85 months

Monday 14th January
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F = Fuji Speedway where they test the car's

Onehp

1,105 posts

229 months

Monday 14th January
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Love the look of the grey one three quarters rear view, odd that the white one looks so tall in comparison (ugly nose and bad colour scheme - the carbon does not help)

Before the RC-F was 125kg more than an E92 M3, in itself not a light car. Now it's ~50kg more, that could be passable considering the larger engine, the lighter footwear should also contribute to a lighter feeling on the road.

If it now drives the way it looks, I could be interested if there is room for this car type in my future life (guess not)....

Edited by Onehp on Monday 14th January 13:28

Chestrockwell

1,936 posts

103 months

Monday 14th January
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I wonder how these sell over in the US, it doesn’t seem like Lexus are bothered about sales over here with the 30bhp deficit and lack of effort to make up for it.

I’m not an engineer or anything but I’m sure something could have been done to make up for the power, a 30bhp deficit is a big deal, especially in a NA engine.

I think it looks nice but sort of goes against what the car is, a big luxury hot rod type car with a massive V8, it looks a bit silly trying to be a track car by using a carbon fibre bonnet while retaining all the luxuries.

I’d like a standard updated RC F with the wheels from the track edition and the paint. Keep the rest

Tuvra

7,819 posts

171 months

Monday 14th January
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Is it me or does it look slab sided and "underwheeled"? confused

Don Colione

91 posts

22 months

Monday 14th January
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The RC-F is starting to look and feel like the modern spiritual successor to the "legendary"...

2008 Mercedes Benz CLK 63 AMG Black Series

N/A V8
Price - $135,000
Weight - 3,880 lbs
Horsepower - 507
Torque - 465lb/ft
0 - 60 - 4 - 4.2 sec

2020 Lexus RC-F

N/A V8
Price - $65,000
Weight - 3,900 lbs
Horsepower - 472
Torque - 395lb/ft
0 - 60 - 4 - 4.2 sec




Nerdherder

1,447 posts

43 months

Monday 14th January
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That Black Series is a 1000% more lust inducing

ReaperCushions

3,728 posts

130 months

Monday 14th January
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Looks like an SUV with that arch gap at the front. Race car? Yeah right.

Number86

19 posts

80 months

Monday 14th January
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I think that looks lovely!!

Though I've always liked a Lexus. Shame no one will buy it as it's so outgunned by the germans.

ZX10R NIN

15,267 posts

71 months

Monday 14th January
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Why does it look like it's sitting on stilts? I like the RC-F but feel Lexus have missed a trick with this car I'd probably go for the standard model I do like the new front end.

BIRMA

2,610 posts

140 months

Monday 14th January
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I don't think there is that much of an upgrade over the standard car in all honesty. In the very informative Chris Harris you tube test of the older RCF he does state it's too heavy for track use and I don't think this is enough of a step up to be honest.
What he did say was that it was a good road car and I agreed so much I went out and bought one.
If I ever get bored with the standard N/A V8 producing 470 BHP I'll do what a lot of fellow USA owners have done and supercharge the car that way you get an easy 670 BHP plus Lexus reliability.
When I had my CL65 I had a highly tuned VX 220 turbo as a track day car, personally myself I'd buy a secondhand 2017 year RCF and a Caterham for the track for probably about the same money as one of these will go for.

British Beef

1,218 posts

111 months

Tuesday 15th January
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Personally I think the Alfa Gulia Quadrifolio does everything better - looks, speed, emotion, and by all accounts is probably a better steer. Only possible fly in the ointment is the reliability department

st4

1,359 posts

79 months

Wednesday 16th January
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rampageturke said:
god that things ugly
No it's not.

I badly want one.

Krikkit

16,278 posts

127 months

Wednesday 16th January
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cib24 said:
The US market is pointing out an increase in power of 5hp and 6lb ft on the old car. Is the loss in power only relevant for EU delivered cars due to the particulate filters?
I'd guess this is the issue, GPF addition means losing a bit of top-end in a high-revving V8.

st4

1,359 posts

79 months

Wednesday 16th January
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BIRMA said:
I don't think there is that much of an upgrade over the standard car in all honesty. In the very informative Chris Harris you tube test of the older RCF he does state it's too heavy for track use and I don't think this is enough of a step up to be honest.
What he did say was that it was a good road car and I agreed so much I went out and bought one.
If I ever get bored with the standard N/A V8 producing 470 BHP I'll do what a lot of fellow USA owners have done and supercharge the car that way you get an easy 670 BHP plus Lexus reliability.
When I had my CL65 I had a highly tuned VX 220 turbo as a track day car, personally myself I'd buy a secondhand 2017 year RCF and a Caterham for the track for probably about the same money as one of these will go for.
Hi there - I recognise you from the Lexus forum. Supercharging sounds an awesome thing to do - and what people don't appreciate until they have a Lexus is they just don't go wrong - so you can truly enjoy owning and driving the thing.