RE: Mercedes-Benz C43 AMG: PH Trade-Off!

RE: Mercedes-Benz C43 AMG: PH Trade-Off!

Monday 14th January 2019

Mercedes-Benz C43 AMG: PH Trade-Off!

Mercedes has facelifted its AMG-lite coupe, and while it's no C63, we rather like it. But can we better it for half the price?



As cars that must live in the shadow of more illustrious brethren go, the Mercedes-Benz C43 AMG is up there. It is, for many, the compromise model; the one you buy if you couldn't afford the proper one. Maybe that's a little unfair, though. The C43 is a likeable car in its own right, its four-wheel-drive and blown six giving it a character that's slightly different to the 63's. Where the more powerful car is all muscle, the C43 feels leaner, lighter and more forgiving.

Granted, as Mr Sheehan found when he drove it last month, it's less adjustable and ultimately less exciting than the 63. But the flipside is that it offers a more accessible way into AMG performance while still delivering a healthy slice of enjoyment thanks to its pace, grip and snorty exhaust note.

Problem is - and there's no way to sugar-coat this, so we'll just come right out and say it - it costs £50,995. A not-inconsiderable sum of money for a car that isn't quite the top-end package, and probably one that puts it out of reach for quite a few buyers. So for those of us who aren't quite as flush with cash, can we find anything that does what the C43 can - but for half the price?


The search for a four-wheel-drive performance saloon starts, predictably, with a trip to Audi, and this rather clean-looking S4. The ad boasts of a full main-dealer history, while the grey-over-red-leather colour scheme is certainly eyecatching. It's done 25,000 miles, too, which is well below average. Trouble is, this generation of S4 was always criticised for its lifeless steering and uninvolving chassis, making it potentially even less invigorating to drive than the C43. Surely, then, we can do better...

Ditching the requirement for four-wheel drive brings you to the doorstep of a rather nice looking BMW 340i M Sport - but then we realised that this 640i M Sport Gran Coupe, at the same age and with only 1,000 miles more on the clock, could be had for exactly the same price. Bargain, no? Mind you, as lovely as it is, even we have to admit that a four-door luxury express is pushing it as a rival to a two-door executive coupe. This is a trade-off winner for another day.

So is transpires our half-price hero comes from a company that's had its fair share of negative headlines this week. But for all the troubles JLR's experiencing at the moment, they still make some very desirable cars; among which the XE S has to stand out as one of the most underrated - a fact we discovered when we took one out for a drive last year.


While the XE S doesn't have the might of the M3s and C63s of this world, it is nevertheless a wonderfully deft thing to drive, with beautifully judged damping, endlessly communicative steering and excellent balance.

Power, lest you've forgotten, comes from the same supercharged, 380hp 3.0-litre V6 we like so much in the F-Type; that's enough to make the XE S good for the 62mph dash in 5.1 seconds, a few tenths less than the C43 (as you'd expect given the Merc's traction advantage off the line). In the real world though, you wouldn't think the rivals are very far apart at all in performance terms.

And then, of course, there's the way the XE's engine sounds - 'more purposeful and authentic' than the C43's, or so we said in our review. What's more, while the XE isn't the most spacious saloon in the world, its extra pair of doors do at least make it more practical than the C43 Coupe - while, we'd contend giving very little away on looks.


The example we found is just outside its warranty period - which could be a concern if Jaguar's reliability rep is anything to go by - but it's covered just 9,000 miles, so it should at least feel like a new car to drive. It's been fitted with a heap of options, too, including a panoramic roof, two-tone leather, heated seats and a heated steering wheel - just the ticket in this chilly winter weather.

What's more, it comes in Firenze Red, the XE's launch colour and one which looks rather smashing when it's polished up on a sunny day. Makes a change from grey, black or silver, doesn't it? Okay, so you'll have to live without the C43's four-wheel drive traction. But what you're getting in its place is a car that's at least as exciting to drive as the Merc, if not more so; one that offers the adjustability and excitement the C43 lacks - and one that's a little more left-field, too.

This example's barely been used, and should the recent expiry of the manufacturer warranty put you off, at this price, you can easily afford to extend it or add an aftermarket equivalent. As half-price heroes go, then, this is one of the most tempting we've yet featured - frankly, even though it's three years older, we'd find it hard to lay out more than fifty large for a brand-new C43 knowing it was lurking in the classifieds.


SPECIFICATION - MERCEDES-AMG C43 COUPE
Engine:
2,996cc biturbo V6
Transmission: 9-speed auto TCT, four-wheel drive
Power(hp): 390@6,100rpm
Torque(lb ft): 384@2,500-5,000rpm
0-62mph: 4.7 secs
Top speed: 155mph (electronically limited)
Weight: 1,750kg (EU, with driver)
MPG: 29.7mpg
CO2: 217g/km
Price: £50,995

SPECIFICATION - 2015 JAGUAR XE S
Engine:
2,995cc, supercharged V6
Transmission: 8-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 380@6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 331@3,500-5,000rpm
0-62mph: 5.0secs
Top speed: 155mph
Weight: 1,635kg (kerbweight)
MPG: 34.0 (NEDC combined)
CO2: 194g/km
Price: £24,480

Author
Discussion

Ray_Aber

Original Poster:

480 posts

276 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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The Jag looks lovely - with gorgeous exterior colour and non-bland interior - but it's 335hp, not 380. To my knowledge, the XE-S never had the deeper chested V6. It will handle better than most/all of the opposition too.

I'd still prefer a 640i CG though. That's a glorious looking car, and way better inside than the cheap dash'd Jag.

Gez79

217 posts

183 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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As that jag is an early model it only has 340ps, rather than the 380ps quoted but I seriously considered one of these to replace my 335i but decided it wasn't big enough for my growing brood and was scared off with reliability concerns.

They do look good but were very overpriced when new compared to the 340i etc

Arsecati

2,302 posts

117 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Nice car that the Jag is, I don't think I could pass up the chance of a 2014/15 C63 instead.... I've seen a gorgeous black C63 Estate for £23,450: that would be my half-price hero! wink

carinaman

21,287 posts

172 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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That Merc looks hideous. What an abomination.

T1berious

2,255 posts

155 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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The C43 is a direct rival for the BMW 440i and Audi S5 No? 4WD? Check >325 BHP? Check Coupe? Check

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

If you're after a Coupe, chances are wild horses couldn't get you into a 4 door.

Edited by T1berious on Monday 14th January 13:21

andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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carinaman said:
That Merc looks hideous. What an abomination.
It’s in the wrong colour, but I like it a lot.

AC43

11,474 posts

208 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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carinaman said:
That Merc looks hideous. What an abomination.
Weird bar-of-soap styling at the rear. I liked all the Bruno Sacco Mercs and pretty much all generations from then up till now. Although the AMGs were beginning to get a bit shouty and crease-tastic. But they've gone the other way and have gone strangely blobby to my eyes.

9k rpm

520 posts

210 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Surely a 435d is a good alternative; very similar real world performance figures to the Merc awd and a coupe.

Yes it drinks from the devil’s pump and is probably slower above 90mph due to 70bhp power difference but for half the price it has to be worth a shout.

Dare I say remap one and you’d have the same bhp. As we know nothing is faster than a remapped x35d ;-)

silentbrown

8,823 posts

116 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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T1berious said:
The C43 is a direct rival for the BMW 440i and Audi S5 No? 4WD? Check >325 BHP? Check Coupe? Check
I had a quick look for S5's with sports diff in the right price range.

Unfortunately, just this.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...




getmecoat

moffat

1,020 posts

225 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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I think the facelift C43 is decent, the pictures on here hardly do it justice in some sort of OAP metallic sick paint.

They're now pushing close to 400bhp and you cannot buy a power pack for a 440i anymore so it has to make do with 335hp instead of 360hp.

Interior has been greatly improved as has the exterior.

I'm a big BMW fan, and drive an MPPSK 440i now, but this will be tempting to look at unless I can get a deal on a C63.

carinaman

21,287 posts

172 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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AC43 said:
carinaman said:
That Merc looks hideous. What an abomination.
Weird bar-of-soap styling at the rear. I liked all the Bruno Sacco Mercs and pretty much all generations from then up till now. Although the AMGs were beginning to get a bit shouty and crease-tastic. But they've gone the other way and have gone strangely blobby to my eyes.
The rear lights are like melted lozenges and the proportions look wrong in the photo of it on opposite look. It looks narrow and tall.

I prefer older cars with less offensive more restrained styling. I saw a current MX-5 earlier convertible earlier. That looks OK, but part of the appeal for me is the smaller size. It seems to have features that are relevant to any enjoyment that may be accessed from driving or the operating of the vehicle.

Edited by carinaman on Monday 14th January 17:40

marlons69

19 posts

164 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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So the 4 door coupe is discounted as not being a true rival to the 2 door coupe. But what wins - a 4 door saloon...

Good. Grief.

As another poster comments - if you want a coupe you probably don’t want a saloon.

The main 2 rivals that I can see would be an S5 or - a 435d. It may be a diesel, but it’s a 4x4, 4.7 secs coupe..

Please try harder.

CM954

525 posts

185 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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marlons69 said:
So the 4 door coupe is discounted as not being a true rival to the 2 door coupe. But what wins - a 4 door saloon...

Good. Grief.
^^^^ this ^^^
It's almost as if there was an edit going on that wasn't finished.

1Rb

319 posts

155 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Here's hoping the depreciation stick continues to beat the Jag XE S down

big_rob_sydney

3,401 posts

194 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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I cant help but think a second hand c63 would be a great alternative, especially as it comes in a variety of body types, just to satisfy any pedantry.

cramorra

1,665 posts

235 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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It s a great little car fun to drive and proving reliable
Really looking good in blue metallic and light grey leather
A lot better put together than the 204 gen cars....
As alternative?
RC F?
Cayman?
S 5